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Old 04-29-2007, 01:39 PM   #1
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Thompson 4X stem

just swapped out my long suffering, creaking Easton Vice FR stem with a much lighter (190gm vs. 300gm) Thompson 4X stem in 31.8mm

feels just as stiff as the Easton when honking on the bars, looks super pretty and has dropped the front end about 1" which gives a little more front wheel traction on the fast turns

did some big drops and stunts yesterday and the Thompson feels solid as...

with Thompson's reputation don't think there is gonna be any issues with long term durability. time to go for their seatpost too...

wonder who else has had good results running "lighter" kit in place of super heavy DH / FR parts?
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Old 04-29-2007, 04:33 PM   #2
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I switched from Diabolus bars (380g) and Evolve stem (300g) to a Thomson X4 stem (31.8mm x 1.5" - 169g) and Answer ProTaper OS bars (270g) which took half a pound off my front end. I haven't noticed any difference in flex between the 2 setups and the weight savings were nice given that this is on my "all mountain" bike. Can't imagine what benefits running a Diabolus bar and stem would afford over the Thomson/Protaper combo.
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Old 04-29-2007, 05:57 PM   #3
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I run the Thompson 4x on both my rocky flow dj, and my rocky switch,

best stem you can get
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Old 04-30-2007, 02:25 AM   #4
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I recently got one and boy is it light and stiff! I like. Looks pretty too.
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Old 04-30-2007, 02:31 AM   #5
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Fit and finish, tolerance, weight, hardware, and just about everything on my Thomson 31.8 stem is better than the Diabolis. Thomson just seems to take much more care in making their stuff and the RF stuff just looks punched out. Just my opinion - but for similar $$, the Thomson is seems far nicer
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Old 04-30-2007, 02:54 AM   #6
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On some of the early runs of the X4, people were complaining that it came loosee a lot. The problem was supposedly fixed over a year ago and I have not heard any compliants form the peopleI know who run them. Basically a great stem.
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Old 04-30-2007, 02:57 AM   #7
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but but but, my Diablous stem has FLAMES on it

Thomson (no P in there guys) is hard to beat. Light, strong, beautifully made parts with no gimmicks. They're expensive, but like a chris king headset they'll probably outlast your frame. My thomson post is going on 6 years old and has been on three different bikes.
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Old 04-30-2007, 02:01 PM   #8
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its a shame they only make the 2 seatposts and their stem

would love to see them do a set of hubs, seatclamp or brake lever


but i heard they make all kinds of medical /aerospace bits too, so i guess they are somewhat busy!
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Has anyone heard of a stem breaking or failing before? Just curious.
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Old 04-30-2007, 08:22 PM   #10
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Yeah - but only when ham fisted wrenches overtighten/incorrectly tighten the face plate bolts.
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I have seen both broken and twisted stems. They were both
cheap, welded stems. I've never seen a snapped or twisted
Thomson or Diablous.

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Old 04-30-2007, 09:28 PM   #12
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I am a believer in Thomson's products. Put 'em on and they just plain work. Reasonably light and dependable. Anyone remember those Race face adds for their Deus stems? They claimed they were 40% stiffer than the competition which most people would recognize as Thomson. Hmmm. Not that the Deus stem is lousy, it's a fine stem, but I don't flex my Thomson stem so 40% stiffer means?????What? Stiffer than a stem that don't flex? Hoopla! I call shenanigans!
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Welded stems on DH bikes break and twist. Usually along the welds. I've seen a lot of that.

Haven't seen a block stem break, but I'm sure they do.
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Old 05-01-2007, 02:00 PM   #14
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my Easton Vice stem had started to stretch on the steerer clamp area, from repeated loosenings, removal and re-assembley (its been on several bikes), then i had a big stack and the bars twisted and after that the clamp area seemed even more stretched, and the stem was making creaking noises...

i'm careful not to overtighten bolts but alloy stretches over time
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Old 05-02-2007, 02:43 AM   #15
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does anyone know where i would be able to pick one of these up, in the vancouver area.
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