Sram X/9

GeoffG · 03-26-2006, 08:48 AM

Looking at getting the derailleur after destroying many Shimanos. Worth the money?
What is the difference between it and the X/7?

mattj · 03-26-2006, 09:58 AM

Some parts which are black on the X7 are silver on the X9. That's the only difference.

Seriously though, I think there's some different alloys used to make it lighter and/or stronger. Also better pulley(s)If the price difference is nominal, go for the X9. If you can only afford the X7 don't worry you will love it. Keep in mind the shifters that ran your Shimano derailleur will not work on X7 or X9.

-m

Rexthespeedster · 03-26-2006, 05:36 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by mattj

Some parts which are black on the X7 are silver on the X9. That's the only difference.

Seriously though, I think there's some different alloys used to make it lighter and/or stronger.

This is correct. The black parts on the X.7 are moulded composite (plastic, basically) whereas the X.9 version has aluminum pieces.

I was told that the X.9 will be stronger, but the shifting performance will be pretty much the same.

stubz · 03-26-2006, 06:16 PM

my shimano xt did not comaper to my x9 at all go sram or go home.

ZHendo · 03-26-2006, 07:11 PM

X.9 also uses sealed bearings instead of washers. I love the sram, even the X.7 outperforms higher end shimano stuff. The tighter spring just can't be beaten.

GeoffG · 03-26-2006, 07:34 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by mattj

Some parts which are black on the X7 are silver on the X9. That's the only difference.

Seriously though, I think there's some different alloys used to make it lighter and/or stronger. Also better pulley(s)If the price difference is nominal, go for the X9. If you can only afford the X7 don't worry you will love it. Keep in mind the shifters that ran your Shimano derailleur will not work on X7 or X9.

-m

What about the Sram Rocket shifter? It has the same ratio as the Shimano.

Chunk · 03-26-2006, 07:36 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by GeoffG

What about the Sram Rocket shifter? It has the same ratio as the Shimano.

whoa whoa whoa, are you just talking about replacing the shifter? I looked at your original post and i took it as you going all SRAM.

PhilJ · 03-26-2006, 07:49 PM

I have also been considering switching to sram. Can you use a shimano cassette/chain with a sram derailler/shifter?

GeoffG · 03-26-2006, 08:36 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Chunk

whoa whoa whoa, are you just talking about replacing the shifter? I looked at your original post and i took it as you going all SRAM.

I already have the Sram Rocket, Im looking at a new derailleur.

Chunk · 03-26-2006, 09:19 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by GeoffG

I already have the Sram Rocket, Im looking at a new derailleur.

Ohhhhh, nope, the rocket shifters only work with shimano.

If you want a SRAM RD, youll have to use the 1:1 shifters (i.e. X0, X9, X7 or whatever) The Attack shifters dont work with ANY sram RD. Only shimano.

And as for the question above about shimano cassette and chain working with SRAM shifter RD, yes, they will. In fact, many people say the shimano cassettes have better ramping for shifting, so that might even be ideal.

Shimano chains suck to deal with though. They perform just as good as a SRAM chain, and they are certainly interchangable, but working with shimano chains suck. When you break the chain (like if you are shortening the chain) you cant just push the pin back in like you can with sram, you have to replace it or else that pin will come loose really easily. So, if you are on the trail, you need to carry extra shimano pins with you in case you have a problem with it. With sram you can push the pin back in and not worry about it coming out.

Confusing eh?

GeoffG · 03-26-2006, 09:38 PM

Fuck, so I have to buy new shifter now as well

?

IFO · 03-26-2006, 09:59 PM

SRAM numberd parts with SRAM only..

SRAM named parts with Shimano parts.

easy to remeber it that way...

p.s. u can mix and match chains and cassettes thou.. but i like the SRAM gear for everything... i've had beter results.

BOWMAN · 03-26-2006, 10:09 PM

i ride x7 on my jamis dakar xlt and i can honestly say i will most likely never go back to shimano, the shift quality is sooo good, sometimes i dont even feel it shift.

GeoffG · 03-27-2006, 12:22 AM

Uggh. What is retail for the shifter and derailleur?

BOWMAN · 03-27-2006, 12:31 AM

prolly about 120-160

just a guess

ill check the norco catalog at work tomorrow

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mattj inactive Join Date: Mar 2005 Posts: 3,320 Rep Power: 50450	Some parts which are black on the X7 are silver on the X9. That's the only difference. Seriously though, I think there's some different alloys used to make it lighter and/or stronger. Also better pulley(s)If the price difference is nominal, go for the X9. If you can only afford the X7 don't worry you will love it. Keep in mind the shifters that ran your Shimano derailleur will not work on X7 or X9. -m

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IFO Cove STD goodness...Yummy Join Date: Nov 2002 Posts: 13,650 Rep Power: 4442274	SRAM numberd parts with SRAM only.. SRAM named parts with Shimano parts. easy to remeber it that way... p.s. u can mix and match chains and cassettes thou.. but i like the SRAM gear for everything... i've had beter results.

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BOWMAN Wham bam thank you ma'am Join Date: Jan 2003 Location: Canada Posts: 2,118 Rep Power: 92715	prolly about 120-160 just a guess ill check the norco catalog at work tomorrow