Cypress Trail Issues

Niggz · 02-09-2003, 02:23 AM

so i rode cypress for the first time in a few months and someone really needs to talk some sense into west van. on many of the trails there are serious maintanence problems. many sections are beyond fun/safe. i give cypress one more year without maitenance and it will be beyond repair.

now i LOVE cypress because of there being no stunts and ladders. everything is completly old school technical and i love it. however there are serious drainage issues on most of the trails especially Roach Hit and Roach Clip. There are many problems with trail braiding on much of the trails especially on the steeper sections such as the ones on Wild Cherry. the steep parts get skidded out to 3 foot deep ruts, become too difficult and people ride around them starting the same problem over again. these ruts then become creeks and make make erosion problems even worse. there are a few sections that have gone beyond just problems and have become dangerous sections that i can't see even the best technical riders cleaning it.

can the west van council not see this? Can they not see we want to help? do they think if they just ignore us mountain bikers, we will just go away? they already have exclusion of liabilty posters at the start of all the trails, how can it hurt to let people make the trails LESS dangerous while also helping nature by stopping erosion and braiding. now im not sure on where NSMBA stands with any agreements with DWV but as far as i know they are not interested in talking. maybe we need to start some kind of report showing before and after of fixing a trail using no ladders.

i just dont want to lose such awesome natural technical riding. i have never had more fun than riding on cypress

Sharon · 02-09-2003, 04:28 AM

In November of 1998, IMBA and NSMBA Sponsored a trail day on Coiler.

http://www.imba.com/tcc/1998/canada.html

In the summer of 1999, a young rider fell on Roach Hit and was seriouly injured. His father complained to West Vancouver Council who then decided to remove all stunts from Cypress.

Following this incident NSMBA was told by West Vancouver Parks that we were no longer permitted to work on the trails.

If the ridership would like to see this change, what we need from YOU are volunteers for this effort. This volunteer will contact West Vancouver on behalf of the NSMBA and the riders to petition to be allowed to do maintenance on the trails. This volunteer should get a list of riders and where they live as well as pictures of the erosion that is occuring on these trails.

I would suggest starting with Sex Boy. It's close to the road and pretty eroded.

Who would like to be this volunteer?

Niggz · 02-09-2003, 06:40 AM

i may be up to it but id like to get more work done on lower crippler.

wilkez · 02-09-2003, 06:47 PM

jeeeeeeeeeze ill do anything to fill in some damn ruts on that mountain. its horrible! its probably more unsafe the way it is now than with the stunts

pete · 02-11-2003, 12:40 AM

someone was doing some work on wild cherry
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Love stories forum

Sharon · 02-11-2003, 12:52 AM

someone is doing stuff on the top of Coiler too.

Good to see, so long as it doesn't get much negative attention from tax paying west van citizens they probably won't tear anything down.

wilkez · 02-11-2003, 11:15 PM

they dont even have to build stunts or ladders, just some rocks is all that palce needs! trail day....

mike · 02-12-2003, 08:12 PM

5th horseman was terrible
the ruts have turned into trenches, deeper than peddals

Battlecat · 02-12-2003, 08:21 PM

Ya 5th was scetchy ruts where huge

Echo Man · 02-17-2003, 08:02 AM

Quote:

Originally posted by Sharon

Who would like to be this volunteer? [/B]

All these complaints about rutting and still no volunteers? I ride on Cypress all the time. All the trails are badly rutted and in desperate need of maintenance/repair.

If no one else will volunteer then I will. Sharon, PM me so we can start a dialog on what needs to be done.

Thanks!

JSinclair · 03-01-2003, 12:27 AM

We were there on Saturday and an older man was taking pictures of us at the top of 21st St. West Van is such a wierd place. I really enjoy Cypress. I t would be so great if the NSMBA could persuade WV to have trail days.

Thanks for stepping up echo

Sharon · 03-01-2003, 03:52 AM

update coming soon

KenN · 03-03-2003, 08:03 AM

FYI - rode Pre-reap and Reaper today. Someone's building structures on the old Reaper line. They're crap ... ladders with alder for stringers, pinner cedar for rungs, rotten rungs, roundwood for rungs. Crap trailwork (ie. no trail work). The usual crap.

Kn.

02-09-2003, 02:23 AM	#1
Niggz Registered User Join Date: Nov 2002 Location: dub pud Posts: 1,428 Rep Power: 194041	Cypress Trail Issues so i rode cypress for the first time in a few months and someone really needs to talk some sense into west van. on many of the trails there are serious maintanence problems. many sections are beyond fun/safe. i give cypress one more year without maitenance and it will be beyond repair. now i LOVE cypress because of there being no stunts and ladders. everything is completly old school technical and i love it. however there are serious drainage issues on most of the trails especially Roach Hit and Roach Clip. There are many problems with trail braiding on much of the trails especially on the steeper sections such as the ones on Wild Cherry. the steep parts get skidded out to 3 foot deep ruts, become too difficult and people ride around them starting the same problem over again. these ruts then become creeks and make make erosion problems even worse. there are a few sections that have gone beyond just problems and have become dangerous sections that i can't see even the best technical riders cleaning it. can the west van council not see this? Can they not see we want to help? do they think if they just ignore us mountain bikers, we will just go away? they already have exclusion of liabilty posters at the start of all the trails, how can it hurt to let people make the trails LESS dangerous while also helping nature by stopping erosion and braiding. now im not sure on where NSMBA stands with any agreements with DWV but as far as i know they are not interested in talking. maybe we need to start some kind of report showing before and after of fixing a trail using no ladders. i just dont want to lose such awesome natural technical riding. i have never had more fun than riding on cypress __________________ can't get enough of that sodium benzoate... Last edited by Niggz; 02-09-2003 at 02:25 AM.

02-09-2003, 04:28 AM	#2
Sharon Registered User Join Date: Nov 2002 Location: in North Vancouver and elsewhere Posts: 6,358 Rep Power: 1933275	In November of 1998, IMBA and NSMBA Sponsored a trail day on Coiler. http://www.imba.com/tcc/1998/canada.html In the summer of 1999, a young rider fell on Roach Hit and was seriouly injured. His father complained to West Vancouver Council who then decided to remove all stunts from Cypress. Following this incident NSMBA was told by West Vancouver Parks that we were no longer permitted to work on the trails. If the ridership would like to see this change, what we need from YOU are volunteers for this effort. This volunteer will contact West Vancouver on behalf of the NSMBA and the riders to petition to be allowed to do maintenance on the trails. This volunteer should get a list of riders and where they live as well as pictures of the erosion that is occuring on these trails. I would suggest starting with Sex Boy. It's close to the road and pretty eroded. Who would like to be this volunteer? __________________ Looking to ride the shore but don't know where to go? Get a copy of the Locals Guide to North Shore Rides! Follow MTB Trails on Twitter Follow Sharon and Lee on Twitter Check out Canadian Cartel - A canadian mail order company.

02-09-2003, 06:40 AM	#3
Niggz Registered User Join Date: Nov 2002 Location: dub pud Posts: 1,428 Rep Power: 194041	i may be up to it but id like to get more work done on lower crippler. __________________ can't get enough of that sodium benzoate...

02-11-2003, 12:40 AM	#5
pete I'm the Wizard of OZ! Join Date: Nov 2002 Posts: 4,635 Rep Power: 413604	someone was doing some work on wild cherry ________ Love stories forum Last edited by pete; 05-09-2011 at 02:45 AM.

02-11-2003, 12:52 AM	#6
Sharon Registered User Join Date: Nov 2002 Location: in North Vancouver and elsewhere Posts: 6,358 Rep Power: 1933275	someone is doing stuff on the top of Coiler too. Good to see, so long as it doesn't get much negative attention from tax paying west van citizens they probably won't tear anything down. __________________ Looking to ride the shore but don't know where to go? Get a copy of the Locals Guide to North Shore Rides! Follow MTB Trails on Twitter Follow Sharon and Lee on Twitter Check out Canadian Cartel - A canadian mail order company.

02-09-2003, 06:47 PM	#4
wilkez Ahhhhhhh motherland Join Date: Nov 2002 Location: Surrey Posts: 2,088 Rep Power: 166761	jeeeeeeeeeze ill do anything to fill in some damn ruts on that mountain. its horrible! its probably more unsafe the way it is now than with the stunts

02-11-2003, 11:15 PM	#7
wilkez Ahhhhhhh motherland Join Date: Nov 2002 Location: Surrey Posts: 2,088 Rep Power: 166761	they dont even have to build stunts or ladders, just some rocks is all that palce needs! trail day....

02-12-2003, 08:12 PM	#8
mike take me to your diesel Join Date: Nov 2002 Location: vancouver Posts: 3,449 Rep Power: 9489	5th horseman was terrible the ruts have turned into trenches, deeper than peddals __________________ Big Bike: Santa Cruz Bullit Bigger Bike: Suzuki RM125

02-12-2003, 08:21 PM	#9
Battlecat Registered User Join Date: Nov 2002 Location: North Vancouver Posts: 7,593 Rep Power: 60582	Ya 5th was scetchy ruts where huge __________________ BATTLECAT

03-01-2003, 12:27 AM	#11
JSinclair Will shoot for Rep ! Join Date: Nov 2002 Location: Vancouver, Canada Posts: 2,680 Rep Power: 3030	We were there on Saturday and an older man was taking pictures of us at the top of 21st St. West Van is such a wierd place. I really enjoy Cypress. I t would be so great if the NSMBA could persuade WV to have trail days. Thanks for stepping up echo __________________ Dec 2006 photo contest winner "Best Ass Shot" "Only two things are infinite, the universe and human stupidity, and I'm not sure about the former." - Albert Einstein

03-01-2003, 03:52 AM	#12
Sharon Registered User Join Date: Nov 2002 Location: in North Vancouver and elsewhere Posts: 6,358 Rep Power: 1933275	update coming soon __________________ Looking to ride the shore but don't know where to go? Get a copy of the Locals Guide to North Shore Rides! Follow MTB Trails on Twitter Follow Sharon and Lee on Twitter Check out Canadian Cartel - A canadian mail order company.

03-03-2003, 08:03 AM	#13
KenN I'm with the pedalphiles Join Date: Nov 2002 Location: eNVy Posts: 12,423 Rep Power: 18749929	FYI - rode Pre-reap and Reaper today. Someone's building structures on the old Reaper line. They're crap ... ladders with alder for stringers, pinner cedar for rungs, rotten rungs, roundwood for rungs. Crap trailwork (ie. no trail work). The usual crap. Kn. __________________ When one person suffers from a delusion, it is called insanity. When many people suffer from a delusion, it is called religion.

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