I'm liking what they've done with the 224. (splooge worthy pic inside too)

Loopie · 10-17-2005, 09:14 AM

Even lighter than the 223...but most of all, they put the pivot in the right spot.
Pricy, but it's so light that you could build it with average parts and still have a very light DH bike.
http://www.orangebikes.co.uk/2006/bikes.php?bike=224#

Chunk · 10-17-2005, 09:38 AM

Whoa! that looks so sick!!! I have heard lots about those bikes and i lust for one.

Master Stacker · 10-17-2005, 06:27 PM

I like how they've finally figured out how to propel a bike without the weak point of a chain. Or pedals. You've got to hand it to our bros across the pond...
-what's the claimed weight of that frame? Looks preety nice

IFO · 10-17-2005, 07:12 PM

yummy..

i like the headtube junction... very SEXY.

Loopie · 10-17-2005, 08:31 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Master Stacker

-what's the claimed weight of that frame? Looks preety nice

The owner of that bike claims his 223 (incl floater) with the same parts was 38. The 224 frame is 1lb lighter, minus the floater = another 1lb, and he's putting the Fox Air shock on it, saving at least 1 more lb.
So he's expecting to have a 35lb DH bike this yr!

223 frame alone was supposed to be just under 10lbs. The 224 is said to be under 9lb!

AnTi-TrAiL_nAzI · 10-17-2005, 08:43 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Loopie

The owner of that bike claims his 223 (incl floater) with the same parts was 38. The 224 frame is 1lb lighter, minus the floater = another 1lb, and he's putting the Fox Air shock on it, saving at least 1 more lb.
So he's expecting to have a 35lb DH bike this yr!

223 frame alone was supposed to be just under 10lbs. The 224 is said to be under 9lb!

he he was to drop that fork for this years BoXXer WC. he would save another pound or 2

that is just scary thinkin that my bike is 45ish now, and tht is almost 10 pounds lighter than my bike.. looks awesome tho!

big ben · 10-17-2005, 08:48 PM

imagine that frame in 07, with the 07 boxxer wc and 07 rockshox dh airshock and deemaxes with tubeless tires, el caminos and carbon parts...lightest dh bike ever!

johnathan · 10-17-2005, 09:31 PM

I must admit id prefered the 222/223 (what is it with me with beefy bikes? Oh well. I must admit it does look good but not a patch on a curtis thumpercross. although its deffinetly the lighter frame. Between the two.

million dola "jules" · 10-17-2005, 10:43 PM

i put a dhx air on my 223 and its amazing it weighs 40# but with tubeless and a couple small changes it will take off like 3# and with a diferent fork another pound.

ive only had a couple short dh runs near my house with some tech and some high speed, steep, choppy stuff and the shock really makes a difference over my swinger 4.

Loopie · 10-17-2005, 10:43 PM

For me to consider a single pivot bike, two issues need to be addressed. First is the axle path. The higher the pivot the better. Which brings me to issue #2...the pedal feedback with a high single pivot. It's a personal preference thing, but it drives me nuts. An elevated chainline is good imo (BB7, PDC DH-One, the new Trek Session10 etc...)
But I was looking at the 224 and noticed how the pivot is essentially right in line with the chain coming off the ring. So feedback should be negligable shouldn't it???

TheGiggler · 10-17-2005, 10:52 PM

i would say yes, minimal feedback. closer the pivot is to the chainring, the less feedback you should have in theory.

the pivot location of the 224 looks to be abotu between that of a heckler and bullit ... pretty low, but it should pedal nicely

Aldo Nova · 10-18-2005, 12:11 AM

my old man had the chance to buy a brand new 2004 223 for cheeeeeap at our LBS. i was away for hockey that weekend and when I got back he asked if that was a good bike for the price and I said hell yes! He went back there 3 days after he first saw it and it was gone

he has been kicking his ass every since

that 224 looks extremely sexy

hellionflyer · 10-18-2005, 12:31 AM

i was talking with a guy who was over here from england and he says everyone has them over there he said there almsot likes konas are here except when they get shipped across the dutys make them super pricey so when i go to england i think i may snag one of them.. that frames on the money..

Simon

Loopie · 10-18-2005, 12:40 AM

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Originally Posted by hellionflyer

i was talking with a guy who was over here from england and he says everyone has them over there he said there almsot likes konas are here except when they get shipped across the dutys make them super pricey so when i go to england i think i may snag one of them.. that frames on the money..

Simon

Yup. Two way street. Our high end stuff is more expensive for them over there than it is to buy an Orange there. Last time I checked, buying a V10 frame in the UK would run you around $4500can

MudPie · 10-18-2005, 12:55 AM

yeh cheaper over there and also remember UK prices include tax. And if you're out there you'll probably get it back at customs on the way out.

Of course you would then declare it when you get here...or wouldn't you

10-17-2005, 09:14 AM	#1
Loopie Chubbing it up downhill Join Date: Nov 2002 Location: kamLOOPs, BC Posts: 13,605 Rep Power: 2768526	I'm liking what they've done with the 224. (splooge worthy pic inside too) Even lighter than the 223...but most of all, they put the pivot in the right spot. Pricy, but it's so light that you could build it with average parts and still have a very light DH bike. http://www.orangebikes.co.uk/2006/bikes.php?bike=224# Last edited by Loopie; 10-17-2005 at 09:17 AM.

10-17-2005, 06:27 PM	#3
Master Stacker Crash Test Dummy Join Date: Feb 2004 Location: Yosemite, CA Posts: 417 Rep Power: 17	I like how they've finally figured out how to propel a bike without the weak point of a chain. Or pedals. You've got to hand it to our bros across the pond... -what's the claimed weight of that frame? Looks preety nice __________________ Originally Posted by M_Dub if you watch a show on how dildos are made and your really into it, and after u tell ur 'friends' that it was really good and definitley was cool to see. Then your pornstar friend comes up and posts on the xxx boards that the show sucked, doesnt mean the show sucked because he knows everything already. it means first that your pornstar friend is pretty arrogant, and you need a new hobby.

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big ben Registered User Join Date: Aug 2004 Posts: 5,051 Rep Power: 59032	imagine that frame in 07, with the 07 boxxer wc and 07 rockshox dh airshock and deemaxes with tubeless tires, el caminos and carbon parts...lightest dh bike ever! Last edited by big ben; 10-17-2005 at 08:50 PM.

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million dola "jules" tall black & pimp as hell Join Date: May 2004 Location: T dot reprezent Posts: 325 Rep Power: 10	i put a dhx air on my 223 and its amazing it weighs 40# but with tubeless and a couple small changes it will take off like 3# and with a diferent fork another pound. ive only had a couple short dh runs near my house with some tech and some high speed, steep, choppy stuff and the shock really makes a difference over my swinger 4. __________________ "Oh my gawd did u just see him crush that lip"

10-18-2005, 12:11 AM	#12
Aldo Nova Son of the Sons Join Date: Jun 2003 Location: Prince George Posts: 4,119 Rep Power: 19	my old man had the chance to buy a brand new 2004 223 for cheeeeeap at our LBS. i was away for hockey that weekend and when I got back he asked if that was a good bike for the price and I said hell yes! He went back there 3 days after he first saw it and it was gone he has been kicking his ass every since that 224 looks extremely sexy __________________ Adrenalize

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Chunk Sexy beast Join Date: Sep 2005 Location: far from you Posts: 3,934 Rep Power: 328921	Whoa! that looks so sick!!! I have heard lots about those bikes and i lust for one. __________________ thinkin bout bikes

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IFO Cove STD goodness...Yummy Join Date: Nov 2002 Posts: 13,679 Rep Power: 4899623	yummy.. i like the headtube junction... very SEXY.

10-17-2005, 09:31 PM	#8
johnathan Registered User Join Date: Aug 2005 Location: UK Posts: 1,332 Rep Power: 8	I must admit id prefered the 222/223 (what is it with me with beefy bikes? Oh well. I must admit it does look good but not a patch on a curtis thumpercross. although its deffinetly the lighter frame. Between the two.

10-17-2005, 10:52 PM	#11
TheGiggler Team Shuttlewhore Join Date: Jul 2003 Location: in the fog Posts: 5,250 Rep Power: 59034	i would say yes, minimal feedback. closer the pivot is to the chainring, the less feedback you should have in theory. the pivot location of the 224 looks to be abotu between that of a heckler and bullit ... pretty low, but it should pedal nicely

10-18-2005, 12:31 AM	#13
hellionflyer Clova kid Join Date: Oct 2005 Location: cloverdale Posts: 456 Rep Power: 0	i was talking with a guy who was over here from england and he says everyone has them over there he said there almsot likes konas are here except when they get shipped across the dutys make them super pricey so when i go to england i think i may snag one of them.. that frames on the money.. Simon

10-18-2005, 12:55 AM	#15
MudPie van east gangsta Join Date: Apr 2005 Posts: 4,364 Rep Power: 171746	yeh cheaper over there and also remember UK prices include tax. And if you're out there you'll probably get it back at customs on the way out. Of course you would then declare it when you get here...or wouldn't you __________________

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