Livestrong bracelets - Page 5

kona_rider10 · 03-30-2005, 02:52 AM

I heard your able to get pink ones. Anyone know if this is true and where I could get one from.

Faithless · 03-30-2005, 06:57 AM

NooNer · 03-30-2005, 07:27 AM

alternative therapy ... not a cure, but i see your point. my bro went through a chinese herbalist, had to drink some fuct up teas. definatly not the western medicine way of doing things.

Fast Orange · 03-30-2005, 09:57 AM

I think all PCH was saying is that they should have made the bracelets out of a different material that is biodegradable, everybody took that statement as a knock towards cancer fundraising for some reason.

The great thing about the Livestrong campaign is anyone who would ever criticize the smallest aspect of it will get ganged up on and denounced as a non-caring person and what happened on the forum is a good example of normally smart people acting and saying unreasonable things.

The truth is I think everyone spends some time lying awake at night scared of cancer. Scared that it's gonna get us or someone we love and beneath that I think we all feel a sense of guilt for living the way we do.

There is stuff that can give us cancer everywhere, pesticides on food, pollution, too much coffee. smoking, junk food, soda, kellogs cereal, microwaves, tv dinners, ice cream, non-organic produce...

our society is saturated with toxins and the result is 60% of all people will get cancer.

60% !!!!!!!

The only way we are gonna get rid of cancer is not by simply pouring money into medical research, we have to collectively change the way we all live and eat and interact with the earth.
The way we are currently going is the complete opposite direction of that, cancer research has made leaps and bounds but the numbers of cases just gets bigger and bigger every year because every year our planet becomes that much more toxic.

If you want to make a real difference don't stop giving to cancer research but do stop consuming and supporting the things that cause it.

Having said that I really need to quit smoking.

pete@nsmb.com · 03-30-2005, 03:32 PM

Obviously this is a topic that no one can take a 'neutral' stand on, but a few people mentioned we're in this together, and that is so true.

Should we all be doing what we can to fight cancer? Yes, be that donating, volunteering, helping out loved ones fighting it, whatever.

Should we all do what we can to prevent ourselves and others from contracting cancer? Of course.

Do the drug companies make huge profits, and is some of the money that goes into research used less effectively than it could be? Sure.

Would we be better off without drug companies and cancer research? Hell no.

Did anyone say we would be? I don't think so.

I am very much a "glass half full" person, so instead of finding faults in the Livestrong campaign, I see all the positives. And where cancer is concerned, as you all know, sometimes even a little bit of positive is the difference between slight hope and utter futility. My mental compass usually points to due hope, and I scratched the "futility" mark right off of it. The hope army is recruiting. Let's go fight futility. Together.

pete@nsmb.com · 04-05-2005, 02:09 PM

Something new from NIKE:

Lance Armstrong's new clothes

Nike Cycling - clothing sponsor of Lance Armstrong and the Discovery Channel team - has announced a new line of clothing that acknowledges a date Armstrong has always said was the turning point in his life: October 2, 1996.

That was the day Armstrong discovered that he wasn't just a bit under the weather, but in fact had testicular cancer that had metastasised through his body, and even with extensive treatment his chances of surviving were slim.

Armstrong did survive, and now puts a large amount of his time into the Lance Armstrong Foundation, which aims to help cancer research and cancer survivors. Nike Cycling's new 10//2 clothing range is named for that day in 1996, and a dollar from the price of each garment sold will go to the Lance Armstrong Foundation.

The range comprises: 10//2 Performance Jerseys in Short-sleeve, long-sleeve and sleeveless; 10//2 Performance Short; 10//2 Windfront Vest; and items such as cap, gloves, messenger bag, fleece hoodies, tees and a polo shirt.

_________

Say what you will about Nike - they've been a big time offender of human rights in the past (ditto with most shoe/clothing companies) but they've also been trying to clean up their act. This is a bit different, but they've taken their commitment to supporting the Livestrong foundation a step further, and despite the fact that they no doubt see a way to sell more clothes, it's still good to see them doing more of this kind of stuff.

pattard · 04-05-2005, 03:43 PM

Quote:

I heard your able to get pink ones. Anyone know if this is true and where I could get one from.

there are many differnet colours but they all ahve to do with different things: bullying, breast cancer, racism, tolerance....

Grimace · 04-05-2005, 07:26 PM

I jsut dont know why we humans fear death so much

blunt boy · 04-05-2005, 08:16 PM

I wear a bracelet and will continue to do so but I'm disappointed with the choice of materials. While the marketing, awareness and $ raised are all positive effects of the Livestrong campaign, using a known carcinagen seems very self defeating to me. I am glad that PCH has brought his to my attention as I feel is it better to be informed rather than ignorant. It does not dishonor the loss of my mother in any way just because PCH pointed out something that makes no sense in the fight against cancer. Cancer is a symptom of how we treat the earth and ourselves; pouring in junk into our ecosystems and bodies. We know so little about the causes but some are easily identified. A little girl like Trinity dying makes no sense, but Bob Marley dying of lung cancer is somewhat obvious.

Making a bracelet to highten Cancer awareness out of a known carcinagen is like skidding down CBC in the rain to a trail maintenace day.

Grimace · 04-05-2005, 08:22 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by blunt boy
but Bob Marley dying of lung cancer is somewhat obvious.

he died of brain cancer

blunt boy · 04-05-2005, 08:31 PM

OK. DIED of brain cancer but..
"There doctors verified that the singer had cancer in the brain, lung, and stomach." http://ask.yahoo.com/ask/20031013.html

You get my point though don't you?

gooch · 04-05-2005, 08:31 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by Grimace
he died of brain cancer

Bob had cancer in about 90% of his body when he found out he had it.

gooch · 04-05-2005, 08:32 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by blunt boy
OK. DIED of brain cancer but..
"There doctors verified that the singer had cancer in the brain, lung, and stomach." http://ask.yahoo.com/ask/20031013.html

You get my point though don't you?

No, what's your point?

blunt boy · 04-05-2005, 08:36 PM

I'll let you think about that one

.

gooch · 04-05-2005, 08:46 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by blunt boy
I'll let you think about that one .

Smoking pot causes cancer?

03-30-2005, 06:57 AM	#62
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03-30-2005, 07:27 AM	#63
NooNer the oncoming storm Join Date: Jan 2003 Location: the quiet place Posts: 3,124 Rep Power: 21587	alternative therapy ... not a cure, but i see your point. my bro went through a chinese herbalist, had to drink some fuct up teas. definatly not the western medicine way of doing things. __________________ Eye on the TV 'cause tragedy thrills me Whatever flavor It happens to be like: "Killed by the husband" "Drowned by the ocean" "Shot by his own son" "She used the poison in his tea and kissed him goodbye" That's my kind of story It's no fun til someone dies

03-30-2005, 09:57 AM	#64
Fast Orange pinko Join Date: Jan 2003 Location: Tianjin Posts: 12,533 Rep Power: 13523084	I think all PCH was saying is that they should have made the bracelets out of a different material that is biodegradable, everybody took that statement as a knock towards cancer fundraising for some reason. The great thing about the Livestrong campaign is anyone who would ever criticize the smallest aspect of it will get ganged up on and denounced as a non-caring person and what happened on the forum is a good example of normally smart people acting and saying unreasonable things. The truth is I think everyone spends some time lying awake at night scared of cancer. Scared that it's gonna get us or someone we love and beneath that I think we all feel a sense of guilt for living the way we do. There is stuff that can give us cancer everywhere, pesticides on food, pollution, too much coffee. smoking, junk food, soda, kellogs cereal, microwaves, tv dinners, ice cream, non-organic produce... our society is saturated with toxins and the result is 60% of all people will get cancer. 60% !!!!!!! The only way we are gonna get rid of cancer is not by simply pouring money into medical research, we have to collectively change the way we all live and eat and interact with the earth. The way we are currently going is the complete opposite direction of that, cancer research has made leaps and bounds but the numbers of cases just gets bigger and bigger every year because every year our planet becomes that much more toxic. If you want to make a real difference don't stop giving to cancer research but do stop consuming and supporting the things that cause it. Having said that I really need to quit smoking. __________________ www.natooke.com

04-05-2005, 08:16 PM	#69
blunt boy resident hockey expert Join Date: Dec 2002 Location: Victoria BC Posts: 3,278 Rep Power: 2605315	I wear a bracelet and will continue to do so but I'm disappointed with the choice of materials. While the marketing, awareness and $ raised are all positive effects of the Livestrong campaign, using a known carcinagen seems very self defeating to me. I am glad that PCH has brought his to my attention as I feel is it better to be informed rather than ignorant. It does not dishonor the loss of my mother in any way just because PCH pointed out something that makes no sense in the fight against cancer. Cancer is a symptom of how we treat the earth and ourselves; pouring in junk into our ecosystems and bodies. We know so little about the causes but some are easily identified. A little girl like Trinity dying makes no sense, but Bob Marley dying of lung cancer is somewhat obvious. Making a bracelet to highten Cancer awareness out of a known carcinagen is like skidding down CBC in the rain to a trail maintenace day. __________________ "May a commune of gay, Marxist Muslim illegal immigrants use your tax dollars to open a drive-thru abortion clinic in your church."

04-05-2005, 08:31 PM	#71
blunt boy resident hockey expert Join Date: Dec 2002 Location: Victoria BC Posts: 3,278 Rep Power: 2605315	OK. DIED of brain cancer but.. "There doctors verified that the singer had cancer in the brain, lung, and stomach." http://ask.yahoo.com/ask/20031013.html You get my point though don't you? __________________ "May a commune of gay, Marxist Muslim illegal immigrants use your tax dollars to open a drive-thru abortion clinic in your church."

03-30-2005, 02:52 AM	#61
kona_rider10 Registered User Join Date: Mar 2003 Posts: 77 Rep Power: 0	I heard your able to get pink ones. Anyone know if this is true and where I could get one from.

03-30-2005, 03:32 PM	#65
pete@nsmb.com Crashministrator Join Date: Nov 2002 Location: Ze NV Posts: 2,526 Rep Power: 666	Obviously this is a topic that no one can take a 'neutral' stand on, but a few people mentioned we're in this together, and that is so true. Should we all be doing what we can to fight cancer? Yes, be that donating, volunteering, helping out loved ones fighting it, whatever. Should we all do what we can to prevent ourselves and others from contracting cancer? Of course. Do the drug companies make huge profits, and is some of the money that goes into research used less effectively than it could be? Sure. Would we be better off without drug companies and cancer research? Hell no. Did anyone say we would be? I don't think so. I am very much a "glass half full" person, so instead of finding faults in the Livestrong campaign, I see all the positives. And where cancer is concerned, as you all know, sometimes even a little bit of positive is the difference between slight hope and utter futility. My mental compass usually points to due hope, and I scratched the "futility" mark right off of it. The hope army is recruiting. Let's go fight futility. Together.

04-05-2005, 02:09 PM	#66
pete@nsmb.com Crashministrator Join Date: Nov 2002 Location: Ze NV Posts: 2,526 Rep Power: 666	Something new from NIKE: Lance Armstrong's new clothes Nike Cycling - clothing sponsor of Lance Armstrong and the Discovery Channel team - has announced a new line of clothing that acknowledges a date Armstrong has always said was the turning point in his life: October 2, 1996. That was the day Armstrong discovered that he wasn't just a bit under the weather, but in fact had testicular cancer that had metastasised through his body, and even with extensive treatment his chances of surviving were slim. Armstrong did survive, and now puts a large amount of his time into the Lance Armstrong Foundation, which aims to help cancer research and cancer survivors. Nike Cycling's new 10//2 clothing range is named for that day in 1996, and a dollar from the price of each garment sold will go to the Lance Armstrong Foundation. The range comprises: 10//2 Performance Jerseys in Short-sleeve, long-sleeve and sleeveless; 10//2 Performance Short; 10//2 Windfront Vest; and items such as cap, gloves, messenger bag, fleece hoodies, tees and a polo shirt. _________ Say what you will about Nike - they've been a big time offender of human rights in the past (ditto with most shoe/clothing companies) but they've also been trying to clean up their act. This is a bit different, but they've taken their commitment to supporting the Livestrong foundation a step further, and despite the fact that they no doubt see a way to sell more clothes, it's still good to see them doing more of this kind of stuff.

04-05-2005, 07:26 PM	#68
Grimace Registered User Join Date: Nov 2002 Posts: 4,581 Rep Power: 1062025	I jsut dont know why we humans fear death so much

04-05-2005, 08:36 PM	#74
blunt boy resident hockey expert Join Date: Dec 2002 Location: Victoria BC Posts: 3,278 Rep Power: 2605315	I'll let you think about that one . __________________ "May a commune of gay, Marxist Muslim illegal immigrants use your tax dollars to open a drive-thru abortion clinic in your church."

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