Inner bash/guide pros/cons

nick1111 · 11-02-2003, 07:39 PM

I currently have an Evil DRS chainguide that I use on my Banshee Scream. I took off my front derailleur because I have no use for it, and now my chain drops off the ring a fair bit. What are my options? I could take off the guide and just use an inner bash, leave the guide on and add an inner bash, or get a new guide.

jive turkey · 11-02-2003, 11:47 PM

you might or might not run into the same problems im having....i have a morphine that im just finishing, i used to run a single middle ring between a bash guard and the Envy inner ring(double "E" its called) on my Torrent. because the morphine has fat-ass chain stay, i cannot run the envy inner "E" that i had used before....im thinking of either: 1) getting a 118mm BB instead of the 113mm BB im using right now....but i still dont think that would create enough room for the inner "E" besides the chain line with a 113 BB is spot on!! 2) using the ISCG mount a fixed inner plate just smaller than the bash guard which would be open a few inches to clear the chain stay!! but if this doesnt concern u, pick up a Envy double "E" or inner "E" whatever and your chain droping is solved!! i swear by it......hope that didnt confuse u like it did me

white ri0t · 11-03-2003, 12:04 AM

Yeah, get the envy. I dropped a chain twice in 2 years with it. It's cheap, too.
The cove sells them, www.covebike.com

nick1111 · 11-03-2003, 12:42 AM

Is an inner bash especially noisy?

Also, I have a 118mm bb.

Derek: When your chain dropped, what was the cause?

wickedmcdougle · 11-03-2003, 12:53 AM

how much for the envy? the cove site doesn't say

jive turkey · 11-03-2003, 12:53 AM

the inner "e" sells for 35 bux or so....as for noise, you might here the occasional "ting-ting" but im sure you could use tape or something on the inner side of it to be stealth. as for coming off, i dont think it could slip in between the middle ring and inner "E" it may jump off i you hit a mountain goat or trail nazi....all in all it pays off!!

wickedmcdougle · 11-03-2003, 12:58 AM

35 bucks?! thats soooo cheap

jive turkey · 11-03-2003, 01:08 AM

and nick1111, u might be better off than me with a 118mm BB to fit a inner "E" cause i cant see the room on my morphine even if i did have a 118 BB....its kinda hard to accurately check to see if its compatiable or not, if you figure the small ring up front is enlarged to the same diameter of your bash guard.....would it then clear the chain stay. i go rack my brain more and figure shit out....

RAce faCE2 · 11-03-2003, 03:00 AM

Quote:

Originally posted by wickedmcdougle
35 bucks?! thats soooo cheap

its a thin circular piece of aluminum with holes in it...

Strupat · 11-03-2003, 05:13 AM

Quote:

its a thin circular piece of aluminum with holes in it...

yea, i made one for $0. get a piece of aluminum, a jigsaw with a metal cutting blade, and a drill. if you have those it will cost nothing.

jive turkey · 11-03-2003, 06:42 AM

word hoe!! since i cant use my inner "E" anymore i will be making a boomerang similar to the MRP 2 and fix it to the ISCG tabs....difference being mine will look like ass!! i havent thought of which material to use.....carbon fibre or aluminum. i just wanna have fun with this project since im layed off and all.

Marsenault · 11-03-2003, 08:39 AM

mine was 29$ and i had to get spacers put in because it didnt clear my chainstay. it works amazing, havnt dropped a chain with it on there yet.

Taylor_P · 11-03-2003, 09:07 AM

i've had the inner E ($30) for over a year now. i can remember dropping my chain but for arguments sake ill say its dropped twice in the last year. if you can squeeze it in the inner bash guard is the way to go.

11-02-2003, 07:39 PM	#1
nick1111 Registered User Join Date: Dec 2002 Posts: 585 Rep Power: 11	Inner bash/guide pros/cons I currently have an Evil DRS chainguide that I use on my Banshee Scream. I took off my front derailleur because I have no use for it, and now my chain drops off the ring a fair bit. What are my options? I could take off the guide and just use an inner bash, leave the guide on and add an inner bash, or get a new guide. __________________ BANSHEE BIKES * AVALANCHE * BROOKLYN

11-02-2003, 11:47 PM	#2
jive turkey Registered User Join Date: Nov 2002 Location: Canada eh Posts: 290 Rep Power: 11	you might or might not run into the same problems im having....i have a morphine that im just finishing, i used to run a single middle ring between a bash guard and the Envy inner ring(double "E" its called) on my Torrent. because the morphine has fat-ass chain stay, i cannot run the envy inner "E" that i had used before....im thinking of either: 1) getting a 118mm BB instead of the 113mm BB im using right now....but i still dont think that would create enough room for the inner "E" besides the chain line with a 113 BB is spot on!! 2) using the ISCG mount a fixed inner plate just smaller than the bash guard which would be open a few inches to clear the chain stay!! but if this doesnt concern u, pick up a Envy double "E" or inner "E" whatever and your chain droping is solved!! i swear by it......hope that didnt confuse u like it did me __________________ :: TEAM MOMENTUM CYCLE :: TROY LEE DESIGNS :: OAKLEY :: HOPEY :: PUMP-X ::

11-03-2003, 12:04 AM	#3
white ri0t POPPED COLLA GROWLA Join Date: Nov 2002 Location: EVLOC Posts: 14,052 Rep Power: 773185	Yeah, get the envy. I dropped a chain twice in 2 years with it. It's cheap, too. The cove sells them, www.covebike.com __________________ _0_ \''\ '=o=' .\|!\| .\| \| (\__/) (='.'=) (")_(") Buy My Banshee Scirocco Frame!Price Drop!! $200!!!!

11-03-2003, 12:42 AM	#4
nick1111 Registered User Join Date: Dec 2002 Posts: 585 Rep Power: 11	Is an inner bash especially noisy? Also, I have a 118mm bb. Derek: When your chain dropped, what was the cause? __________________ BANSHEE BIKES * AVALANCHE * BROOKLYN

11-03-2003, 12:53 AM	#5
wickedmcdougle slowrider Join Date: Feb 2003 Location: Burnaby Posts: 181 Rep Power: 17	how much for the envy? the cove site doesn't say __________________ magik red blood hot sugar chili sex peppers

11-03-2003, 12:58 AM	#7
wickedmcdougle slowrider Join Date: Feb 2003 Location: Burnaby Posts: 181 Rep Power: 17	35 bucks?! thats soooo cheap __________________ magik red blood hot sugar chili sex peppers

11-03-2003, 01:08 AM	#8
jive turkey Registered User Join Date: Nov 2002 Location: Canada eh Posts: 290 Rep Power: 11	and nick1111, u might be better off than me with a 118mm BB to fit a inner "E" cause i cant see the room on my morphine even if i did have a 118 BB....its kinda hard to accurately check to see if its compatiable or not, if you figure the small ring up front is enlarged to the same diameter of your bash guard.....would it then clear the chain stay. i go rack my brain more and figure shit out.... __________________ :: TEAM MOMENTUM CYCLE :: TROY LEE DESIGNS :: OAKLEY :: HOPEY :: PUMP-X ::

11-03-2003, 06:42 AM	#11
jive turkey Registered User Join Date: Nov 2002 Location: Canada eh Posts: 290 Rep Power: 11	word hoe!! since i cant use my inner "E" anymore i will be making a boomerang similar to the MRP 2 and fix it to the ISCG tabs....difference being mine will look like ass!! i havent thought of which material to use.....carbon fibre or aluminum. i just wanna have fun with this project since im layed off and all. __________________ :: TEAM MOMENTUM CYCLE :: TROY LEE DESIGNS :: OAKLEY :: HOPEY :: PUMP-X ::

11-03-2003, 08:39 AM	#12
Marsenault nobody can eat 50 eggs Join Date: Mar 2003 Location: Vancouver Posts: 4,576 Rep Power: 4065171	mine was 29$ and i had to get spacers put in because it didnt clear my chainstay. it works amazing, havnt dropped a chain with it on there yet. __________________

11-03-2003, 09:07 AM	#13
Taylor_P Relaxed Join Date: Nov 2002 Location: BC Posts: 3,790 Rep Power: 402979	i've had the inner E ($30) for over a year now. i can remember dropping my chain but for arguments sake ill say its dropped twice in the last year. if you can squeeze it in the inner bash guard is the way to go. __________________

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