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Old 12-20-2002, 06:58 AM   #1
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re: digital video cameras

This topic has been rehashed a couple of times but I never really found a straight answer....

I want to use a DV cam, and the time has come now to look to buy one plus my school's video comp which is rolling around anytime soon, plus our old school analog cam is crapping out on me.

I was wondering what you can reccomend in the beginner range? I don't want to have a pro camera, and I can use premier or any other video editing program.

It should be
-Digital video
-less than a grand ideally
-durable
-don't care about size or weight at all

I'll probably be paying over half so I want something that won't explode and die on me if a little dust gets in it.
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Old 12-20-2002, 07:01 AM   #2
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you probably want mini dv - try the canon elura - good for photos/picture for filming AND small enough to duct tape to your helmet for helmet cam stuff. $1200 I think and it is only 1-2 steps down from a GL1.
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you probably want mini dv - try the canon elura - good for photos/picture for filming AND small enough to duct tape to your helmet for helmet cam stuff. $1200 I think and it is only 1-2 steps down from a GL1.
What is the difference between Mini DV and regular DV?

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If getting still photos sacrifices the camera video quality or anything, or raises the price considerably, I really don't want it. I have my trusty minolta for that stuff.
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Whatever you do...DON'T get a Digital 8. Get Mini-DV so that you are compatible with the majority of the pro-sumer video world.

I would bump your budget up a bit and spend somewhere around $1100 - $1300. You'll get a much better camera for just a little increase in price. Check out the new smaller sony's or Canon's...they are all pretty good at the moment. If you can find something with the option of manual focus and manual exposure, you will have alot more flexibility. You might also want to check on availability of extra batteries, lenses, etc.

Check out www.sonystyle.ca and see:

DCR - TRV18 and;
DCR - TRV25
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Old 12-20-2002, 07:19 AM   #5
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it won't affect quality - in fact, from what I've read the photos are pretty damn good for digis. nutshell difference between mini DV and DV, besides size, is quality. Like old Hi-8 and regular 8mm
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Old 12-20-2002, 07:29 AM   #6
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Old 12-20-2002, 08:06 AM   #7
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My friend has a Canon Zr25 and it is pretty good for an amateur camera!
They also have the Zr45 and Zr50 (i think those are the numbers im kind of guessing here) that are probably even better quality.
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Old 12-20-2002, 09:50 AM   #8
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canon ZR40

saw one at lense&shutter in park royal for $800.

everybody likes them:
http://www.pcphotoreview.com/pscDigi...2_3100crx.aspx

use the extra $200 to get yourself a firewire card for your comp(if you don't already have one)

i've seen the output from this camera, it's a lot more natural looking than most camcorders... it doesn't have as much of a blue, desaturated look to it.
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Old 12-20-2002, 05:00 PM   #9
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I've been seeing newspaper ads for cannon mini dv's for like $550 new
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I have been using a Canon ZR10 for a couple of years now. I would recommend any of the Canon ZR series.

Reasons:
Compact - It fits in the cargo pocket of most of my shorts which, makes it really easy to bring on street rides. It fits nicely in any Camelbak.

Quality - I have been really pleased with the image quality as well as the reliability of it. I have never had any problems with it whatsoever. I have had it in my camelbak for many crashes, have dropped it to many times to think of, and used it in the pouring rain as well.

Price - For what you get, it is tough to beat.

If I think of more I'll add to this post.

Every bit of the footage that I used for This Video (wmv file 16MB - Right click save as please) was shot on the ZR10. Keep in mind that it is compressed and will look 100% better in it's original form. It's the same Kim Eakin video that I have posted before.

It's a great camera for what we do.
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I have a PYRO firewire card in the box, never used...if you want it (or anybody wants it) I'll let it go cheap, cheap.
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Every bit of the footage that I used for This Video (wmv file 16MB - Right click save as please) was shot on the ZR10.
something to keep in mind for those that are watching his video, it looks a little dull on a computer monitor, but on the TV screen it looks fantastic...

if you've got TV out on your video card, i recommend you take a look to get a true feeling for the colour reproduction of this cam.

cool video BTW.
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you'ld be better off getting something like this camera,

http://crave.cnet.com/8301-1_105-997...eed&subj=Crave
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