Kuwahara Matrix 2

lowetyler · 07-17-2003, 04:43 AM

Hey,
Just got up a couple of pics of my new bike, its a Kuwahara Matrix 2, 2003, 14", 4130. These frames are really cheap cost wise, but as I have come to learn, they really perform well. They are alot alike (Almost exact) with the .243 frames, the only differences being the larger downtube, and the absence of the three holes in the headtube gusset.

I have it built with 2002 Shiver SC, Profiles, Dual Singletracks (26/24), Hayes 8/6 Hydros With custom Levers, Blackspire Chainguide (Not in pic, the one in pic is Truvativ), Axiom Saddle, and other mismatched parts.

Hope you enjoy!

Tyler

Bare with me, ill get the links

lowetyler · 07-17-2003, 04:48 AM

(1)
http://groups.msn.com/MountainBiking...oto&PhotoID=85

(2)
http://groups.msn.com/MountainBiking...oto&PhotoID=86

launch rider · 07-17-2003, 04:59 AM

how much are those frmaes worth

lowetyler · 07-17-2003, 05:07 AM

Quote:

Originally posted by launch rider
how much are those frmaes worth

Mine was $350 after taxes, and with a seatpost.
I was looking for something cheap, because my ClifCat Tankass will be coming back from warrenty fairly quick, and if this frame works out, im keeping it and selling the Cat.

Chakalaka Rider · 07-17-2003, 05:31 AM

What's its BB size?

lowetyler · 07-17-2003, 05:33 AM

Quote:

Originally posted by Chakalaka Rider
What's its BB size?

...Im not even sure, my MTB Profiles fit, if that helps.

Zaskar · 07-17-2003, 05:35 AM

i like

i run profile dhs cranks with FSA cups.

here's mine...
http://www.pinkbike.com/modules/phot...ew&image=88250

Chakalaka Rider · 07-17-2003, 05:48 AM

Quote:

Originally posted by lowetyler
...Im not even sure, my MTB Profiles fit, if that helps.

It's alright, because I have a 68mm bb width, if the Kuwahara Matrix II frame uses 73mm then I'd have to buy a new bb because mine aren't adjustable. Well it's all good for $350 I guess I could afford a new bb too. Looks like a sweet bike have fun! I might get one too if I sold my frame.

FOX · 07-17-2003, 06:30 AM

Quote:

Originally posted by lowetyler
Hey,
Just got up a couple of pics of my new bike, its a Kuwahara Matrix 2, 2003, 14", 4130. These frames are really cheap cost wise, but as I have come to learn, they really perform well. They are alot alike (Almost exact) with the .243 frames, the only differences being the larger downtube, and the absence of the three holes in the headtube gusset.

I have it built with 2002 Shiver SC, Profiles, Dual Singletracks (26/24), Hayes 8/6 Hydros With custom Levers, Blackspire Chainguide (Not in pic, the one in pic is Truvativ), Axiom Saddle, and other mismatched parts.

Hope you enjoy!

Tyler

Bare with me, ill get the links

How do you feel about supporting a company that took one of my first production frames (that I worked my ass off on) over to china to be copied with a few changes to keep it legal (and cheap)?

I don't care - just curious.

FOX

Chakalaka Rider · 07-17-2003, 06:37 AM

Umm I don't know what to say. Umm, the Matrix II's made in China?

IFO · 07-17-2003, 06:38 AM

cloned bikes are no different from any other item u can purchase...

what is it with steel bikes and Black ???

couldnt they at least paint the frame in White or something... god i hate black...

WBC · 07-17-2003, 06:41 AM

Quote:

Originally posted by FOX
How do you feel about supporting a company that took one of my first production frames (that I worked my ass off on) over to china to be copied with a few changes to keep it legal (and cheap)?

I don't care - just curious.

FOX

I like you

Honestly, I couldn't ride one, even if it were free because it's hella shady. I'm not one of those guys who is all obsessed about morals, but rippin somebody off is hella sketch...especially when the person getting ripped is wicked cool.

IBIKE · 07-17-2003, 06:41 AM

Quote:

Originally posted by FOX
How do you feel about supporting a company that took one of my first production frames (that I worked my ass off on) over to china to be copied with a few changes to keep it legal (and cheap)?

I don't care - just curious.

FOX

i dont get it...Its a steel hardtail with a gusset. It looks just a much like my old kona or most other hardtails as a .243. How is it such a direct copy of .243? I'm obviously missing something.

Chakalaka Rider · 07-17-2003, 06:45 AM

Quote:

Originally posted by IFO
cloned bikes are no different from any other item u can purchase...

what is it with steel bikes and Black ???

couldnt they at least paint the frame in White or something... god i hate black...

It's a steel bike? Wow actaully I thought it was Al.

mike · 07-17-2003, 07:19 AM

balfa had a steel hardtail before 243 did

07-17-2003, 04:43 AM	#1
lowetyler Prairie Dweller Join Date: Dec 2002 Location: Lethbridge, Alberta Posts: 119 Rep Power: 11	Kuwahara Matrix 2 Hey, Just got up a couple of pics of my new bike, its a Kuwahara Matrix 2, 2003, 14", 4130. These frames are really cheap cost wise, but as I have come to learn, they really perform well. They are alot alike (Almost exact) with the .243 frames, the only differences being the larger downtube, and the absence of the three holes in the headtube gusset. I have it built with 2002 Shiver SC, Profiles, Dual Singletracks (26/24), Hayes 8/6 Hydros With custom Levers, Blackspire Chainguide (Not in pic, the one in pic is Truvativ), Axiom Saddle, and other mismatched parts. Hope you enjoy! Tyler Bare with me, ill get the links

07-17-2003, 07:19 AM	#15
mike take me to your diesel Join Date: Nov 2002 Location: vancouver Posts: 3,449 Rep Power: 9489	balfa had a steel hardtail before 243 did __________________ Big Bike: Santa Cruz Bullit Bigger Bike: Suzuki RM125

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07-17-2003, 04:48 AM	#2
lowetyler Prairie Dweller Join Date: Dec 2002 Location: Lethbridge, Alberta Posts: 119 Rep Power: 11	(1) http://groups.msn.com/MountainBiking...oto&PhotoID=85 (2) http://groups.msn.com/MountainBiking...oto&PhotoID=86

07-17-2003, 04:59 AM	#3
launch rider Registered User Join Date: Nov 2002 Location: Calgary Posts: 10 Rep Power: 0	how much are those frmaes worth

07-17-2003, 05:31 AM	#5
Chakalaka Rider Registered User Join Date: Jun 2003 Location: Richmond Posts: 860 Rep Power: 7729	What's its BB size?

07-17-2003, 05:35 AM	#7
Zaskar back in the ussr Join Date: Nov 2002 Posts: 7,718 Rep Power: 6312	i like i run profile dhs cranks with FSA cups. here's mine... http://www.pinkbike.com/modules/phot...ew&image=88250

07-17-2003, 06:37 AM	#10
Chakalaka Rider Registered User Join Date: Jun 2003 Location: Richmond Posts: 860 Rep Power: 7729	Umm I don't know what to say. Umm, the Matrix II's made in China?

07-17-2003, 06:38 AM	#11
IFO Cove STD goodness...Yummy Join Date: Nov 2002 Posts: 13,650 Rep Power: 4376288	cloned bikes are no different from any other item u can purchase... what is it with steel bikes and Black ??? couldnt they at least paint the frame in White or something... god i hate black...