'01 Shiver cartridge repair?

flowrider · 07-08-2003, 11:54 PM

***This is in no way to reflect on Trailworker***

So, I traded Trailworker my JrT plus cash for his '01 Shiver that he had just traded to get. I finally got it out for a ride today and I noticed that the rebound was too quick for me. A quick stop by my lbs to confirm this and they think that the cartridges are shot.

I take them home and dump the oil out of them - dirty and yechy! I disassemble one side to have a look at the internals (very easy forks to work on) and replace the oil. Push test them and they seem to be too fast still. I drain the oil out other leg and replace the oil, put it all back together and this side is much better. It has rebound damping.

My question(s) is this:
1) has anyone here actually rebuilt a cartridge? If so how?
2) will running full damping on one side and none on the other side blow the good side as well?

Other than that I think it was a good trade and don't regret it. I knew there was going to be some work to do on them, now I just got to figure how.

flowrider · 07-09-2003, 03:00 AM

<bump>

Come on someone out there must know.

trail worker · 07-09-2003, 04:34 AM

this is no good!!!
the fork ran with rebound perfectly set for me,but of course, i did NOT drain the oil out and check to see the way it was running...
egad..this is no good.i really hope you dont think i had some sort of problem with the fork before i traded it to you..i just never fiddled around with it because it was set perfect for me as the kid i traded with was around my wheight/size.

flowrider · 07-09-2003, 04:46 AM

Don't worry about it Julien! I expect the worst and hope for the best. Like I said on the previous post - It's no reflection on you. You didn't have them long enough to know otherwise. I remember you saying my rebound was soooo slow

No worries it's one side only and I am trying to get a cartridge cheap as we speak but if I can take it apart and fix it myself that would be even better.

flowrider · 07-09-2003, 06:01 AM

<top>

Ok....
anyone know the price of a new cartridge?

UFO · 07-09-2003, 08:01 AM

something crazy like $300

Scarface · 07-09-2003, 08:37 AM

cartriges are pricy...and all it is is baiscally a cylinder with a rod in it wiht a lota holes..so i doubt u can do much to it..overhaul your fork..clean every thing and stuff get all the dirt out and make sure every thing is tight..
but im not an expert on forks

switch · 07-09-2003, 12:51 PM

I don't think they can be taken apart and overhauled. Or shops probably don't do it. Maybe keep on flushing some new oil through. If the problem persists, it probably wouldn't cost much for a shop to look at the fork.

flowrider · 07-09-2003, 04:07 PM

300 bucks??? Good god. Anyone know what the warranty is supposed to be on these forks? That's probably a no go but it may be worth a try.

snowboarder · 07-09-2003, 06:54 PM

did you unscrew those silver things all the way on the top caps. cuz they regulate how much oil is supposed to flow throght the fork.

07-08-2003, 11:54 PM	#1
flowrider back in the saddle Join Date: Nov 2002 Location: White Rock Posts: 793 Rep Power: 49	'01 Shiver cartridge repair? *This is in no way to reflect on Trailworker* So, I traded Trailworker my JrT plus cash for his '01 Shiver that he had just traded to get. I finally got it out for a ride today and I noticed that the rebound was too quick for me. A quick stop by my lbs to confirm this and they think that the cartridges are shot. I take them home and dump the oil out of them - dirty and yechy! I disassemble one side to have a look at the internals (very easy forks to work on) and replace the oil. Push test them and they seem to be too fast still. I drain the oil out other leg and replace the oil, put it all back together and this side is much better. It has rebound damping. My question(s) is this: 1) has anyone here actually rebuilt a cartridge? If so how? 2) will running full damping on one side and none on the other side blow the good side as well? Other than that I think it was a good trade and don't regret it. I knew there was going to be some work to do on them, now I just got to figure how.

07-09-2003, 08:37 AM	#7
Scarface Superheros Join Date: Nov 2002 Location: South Surrey/White Rock Posts: 1,421 Rep Power: 83	cartriges are pricy...and all it is is baiscally a cylinder with a rod in it wiht a lota holes..so i doubt u can do much to it..overhaul your fork..clean every thing and stuff get all the dirt out and make sure every thing is tight.. but im not an expert on forks __________________ Andrew Cho GT Bikes http://www.gtbicycles.com

07-09-2003, 12:51 PM	#8
switch two foot hucker Join Date: Nov 2002 Location: Old Buck Posts: 30,090 Rep Power: 13897290	I don't think they can be taken apart and overhauled. Or shops probably don't do it. Maybe keep on flushing some new oil through. If the problem persists, it probably wouldn't cost much for a shop to look at the fork. __________________ It is easy to dodge our responsibilities, but we cannot dodge the consequences of dodging our responsibilities. - Josiah Stamp Every time I see an adult on a bicycle, I no longer despair for the future of the human race. - H.G. Wells

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07-09-2003, 03:00 AM	#2
flowrider back in the saddle Join Date: Nov 2002 Location: White Rock Posts: 793 Rep Power: 49	<bump> Come on someone out there must know.

07-09-2003, 04:34 AM	#3
trail worker bikes on the brain Join Date: Nov 2002 Location: West Kootenays Posts: 5,771 Rep Power: 8773456	this is no good!!! the fork ran with rebound perfectly set for me,but of course, i did NOT drain the oil out and check to see the way it was running... egad..this is no good.i really hope you dont think i had some sort of problem with the fork before i traded it to you..i just never fiddled around with it because it was set perfect for me as the kid i traded with was around my wheight/size.

07-09-2003, 04:46 AM	#4
flowrider back in the saddle Join Date: Nov 2002 Location: White Rock Posts: 793 Rep Power: 49	Don't worry about it Julien! I expect the worst and hope for the best. Like I said on the previous post - It's no reflection on you. You didn't have them long enough to know otherwise. I remember you saying my rebound was soooo slow No worries it's one side only and I am trying to get a cartridge cheap as we speak but if I can take it apart and fix it myself that would be even better.

07-09-2003, 06:01 AM	#5
flowrider back in the saddle Join Date: Nov 2002 Location: White Rock Posts: 793 Rep Power: 49	<top> Ok.... anyone know the price of a new cartridge?

07-09-2003, 08:01 AM	#6
UFO Old school Join Date: Nov 2002 Location: VWLOC Posts: 954 Rep Power: 20594	something crazy like $300

07-09-2003, 04:07 PM	#9
flowrider back in the saddle Join Date: Nov 2002 Location: White Rock Posts: 793 Rep Power: 49	300 bucks??? Good god. Anyone know what the warranty is supposed to be on these forks? That's probably a no go but it may be worth a try.

07-09-2003, 06:54 PM	#10
snowboarder Senior Member Join Date: Dec 2002 Location: trenton/ewing, new jersey Posts: 1,284 Rep Power: 0	did you unscrew those silver things all the way on the top caps. cuz they regulate how much oil is supposed to flow throght the fork.