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Old 03-28-2012, 05:10 PM   #1
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safe-dealing.com is a (not so) sophisticated scam

I was looking for a new computer on Craigslist and I decided to respond to one of those too good to be true ads. The guy wanted to deal through safe-dealing.com

They even have live chat. In about 30 seconds the live chat person started to fold.

Then he/she ended the chat but the window popped up again when I opened a new window. I thought it might be a new person so I asked a few more questions - but it was the same person who began to tell me my location, IP address, OS etc.

http://www.safe-dealling.com

Have some fun with the live chat person and re-post here!
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Old 03-28-2012, 07:10 PM   #2
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This: http://wck2.companieshouse.gov.uk/55...5f/compdetails
is the registry they keep talking about, doesn't seem to have a lot of information. It's a brand new company.

What did you ask that caused problems?

The whois lookup information for the website seems to match the information in the registry at least.

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Old 03-28-2012, 08:14 PM   #3
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This: http://wck2.companieshouse.gov.uk/55...5f/compdetails
is the registry they keep talking about, doesn't seem to have a lot of information. It's a brand new company.

What did you ask that caused problems?

The whois lookup information for the website seems to match the information in the registry at least.
I didn't keep a screenshot and I can't remember. I think I just told them what I knew and they folded pretty easily.

I just got this email from the dude who was trying to sell me the iMac.

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AND WHY YOU POSTED AN THREAD THAT I WANT TO SCAM YOU ? I DIN`T ASKED 1 $ FROM YOU ?

WHAT IS HAPPEN WITH YOU ? IT IS CONVENIENT for you if I poast a lot of threads tha your store is a scam , that you scammed me , you scam people , that on your website is a lot of scam etc etc etc ?

Please delete that post ! Nobody want to scam you , nobody asked you money ! So you don`t have ANY PROVES THAT SOMEONE WANT TO SCAM YOU !!!!!
Come on, who is going to mess with them for my amusement?
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Old 03-28-2012, 08:24 PM   #4
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Old 03-28-2012, 08:25 PM   #5
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I see no problems with this person's English usage.


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Old 03-28-2012, 08:26 PM   #6
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Cut them some slack. The registry says they're UK based. It's tough learning a second language, don't you know?
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Old 03-28-2012, 08:42 PM   #7
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Cut them some slack. The registry says they're UK based. It's tough learning a second language, don't you know?
One of the guys at work use to be based in the Southern US. There was an guy from England working in the office at the time. This English guy decided to take a course at the local community college. He was told that he would have to take an English course first since he was a foreigner.
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Old 03-28-2012, 08:48 PM   #8
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One of the guys at work use to be based in the Southern US. There was an guy from England working in the office at the time. This English guy decided to take a course at the local community college. He was told that he would have to take an English course first since he was a foreigner.
The made me prove my English when I applied for PR.
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Old 03-28-2012, 09:36 PM   #9
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C'mon Cam, you don't have any proves. What is it happen with you these todays?
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Forgot the screenshot, but after a funny conversation I said that the site was not secure or encrypted (which I don't think it is but I know next to nothing about web security). Good ol' Mark said it would be up in two weeks maximum. Then I asked if it was legal to possess personal information without proper security and he disconnected.

Then I opened a new window and they disconnected.. At least half a dozen times. Sometimes I would see the "operator is typing" message at the bottom.

Finally they accepted and said:

SafeDeal14:18:49
There are no operators available in this moment .

Visitor14:19:16
But.. You are typing?

They started to type another message for a minute but disconnected. Now live chat is offline.. Did we break it?
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Old 03-28-2012, 11:05 PM   #11
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<!-- Mirrored from www.imperial-escrow.com/ by HTTrack Website Copier/3.x [XR&CO'2010], Tue, 27 Dec 2011 12:04:42 GMT -->

If it's really the same company, why use a shitty website mirroring software used by hackers and scammers to copy sites? They even forgot to change imperial-escrow.com to safe-dealing.com in one area of the site.
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Old 03-28-2012, 11:28 PM   #12
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More correspondence.

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An potential client that I explained the same thing , he was from USA !!! And he said that found an thread on internet . He gave me the link .

Then , I was on website and start an conversation on Live Support with an operator and explained me everything .

This affect me , If I want to do business through this company , all the clients will say that this is an scam !

So , please , from the bottom of my heart , DELETE THIS THREAD ! I SWEAR that i didn`t wanted to scam you or ask money from you !

Thanks a lot for your understanding !
David
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HA HA HA !!!

Don`t worry , I will post all over the google your store , you are a scamer and the most important an SPAMMER !!!!!

You send hundreads of emails every day
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I told you the thruth .

I really don`t know why you want to hurt me when you don`t have anything to prove that I want to scam you !

This is the life , a lot of bad people want to hurt honest people that only try to sell something on internet and not locally !

Thnaks a lot for nothing !
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Old 03-28-2012, 11:33 PM   #13
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Company is based in UK, server is hosted in Greece (possibly shady Russians trying to appear EU respectable) ... contact email, phone number, name don't show up anywhere in google. Registration address is fake (or incorrect), the listed address of the business is 66-68 High Street,

http://www.cdrex.com/safe-deal-limited-8005828.html

which is also probably fake too, judging from Google Street view.

http://maps.google.ca/maps?hl=en&saf...ed=0CB4Q8gEwAA

Either that or it is an industrial park hub of many, many quirky commercial undertakings:

http://www.google.ca/search?q=66-68+...d+Bushey+herts


Registrant:
Safe Deal LTD
68 HIGH ROAD
BUSHEY HEATH, HERTS WD231GG
GB

Domain name: SAFE-DEALING.COM


Administrative Contact:
Boldon, Andrej andrejboldon@yahoo.com
68 HIGH ROAD
BUSHEY HEATH, HERTS WD231GG
GB
+44.203239623 Fax: +30.2

www.safe-dealing.com is hosted by:

person: Dimitrios Anthoulakis
address: Karaiskaki 46 N. Alikarnasos, GR GR 71601
phone: +1.866.398.7638
mnt-by: MAINT-SOFTLAYER-RIPE
nic-hdl: DA4268-RIPE
abuse-mailbox: info@tophost.gr
source: RIPE # Filtered

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thnaks Cam, thnaks alot
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Old 03-29-2012, 12:01 AM   #15
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you guys are ruining the king of Nigeria's startup company..

how is he ever gunna get those $$$ cheques sent out to all those long lost relatives if you guys keep spamming his site as a scam ???

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