Specialized Announces the 2012 DisposaDemo - in carbon - Page 2

roy · 04-01-2011, 04:42 PM

so many great products being unveiled today!

raganwald · 04-01-2011, 04:57 PM

Typical of Specialized to make a big fuss like they invented the idea. Cyclocross riders have been doing this for years... They take multiple bikes to a race and switch them out every lap. Also, 35 pounds is too heavy for a disposable. They need to get it down to 25 pounds. Disposable tech is already available from component suppliers. Cannondale has been selling carbon lefty forks that break after one ride for years. Specialized need to work with Cannondale on forks and get the other "breaks after one ride" manufacturers together to spec the parts out.

Couch_Surfer · 04-01-2011, 05:08 PM

Disposable frame.... bah. Marketing speak for "we've farmed our frame manufacturing out to Crank Brothers".

Spud-biker · 04-01-2011, 05:08 PM

The only downside I can see is the extra work on the clean-up crew after race weekend. Tear off, lost gloves and now "used" frames littering the trackside

Bushman · 04-01-2011, 05:09 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by JCL

Word is it'd already carried out multiple raids in Libya.

Ah ok but since its invisible stealth....we wont ever know.

cam@nsmb.com · 04-01-2011, 05:10 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by raganwald

Typical of Specialized to make a big fuss like they invented the idea. Cyclocross riders have been doing this for years... They take multiple bikes to a race and switch them out every lap. Also, 35 pounds is too heavy for a disposable. They need to get it down to 25 pounds. Disposable tech is already available from component suppliers. Cannondale has been selling carbon lefty forks that break after one ride for years. Specialized need to work with Cannondale on forks and get the other "breaks after one ride" manufacturers together to spec the parts out.

Actually Jason Chamberlain's DisposaDemo set up is less than 25 lbs.

KenN · 04-01-2011, 05:11 PM

How long before an F1 style governing body dictates how many races you need to use the same frame for?

Kn.

Chett · 04-01-2011, 05:25 PM

X2 ^^^ I dson't like the idea of riding a bike that could shatter in the next rock garden at mach speed!!! anyone seen a carbon ceramic rotor fail at speed? not pretty. 25lbs, couldn't a guy just loose ten pounds and have the same effect?

Ispy · 04-01-2011, 05:28 PM

This is a brilliant idea but I say they take it a step further. If they're tossing the frame anyway why not use that to your advantage? Create a little extra motivation for the rider. Since they've rigged the carbon with lasers anyway why not set them on a timer, and maybe just change the light frequency, to actively destroy the bike.

Think about it... "Look Sam... Atherton nailed this course in 4.38 so we've set your bike to explode at 4.22. You better hit it, timer's already started"

I think it could work.

Bushman · 04-01-2011, 05:38 PM

^added fear factor^....its like having a dog chase you.

Cableguy · 04-01-2011, 05:42 PM

I just put in an order for 40 frames/bikes. One for each race run and qualifying.

NeverlosT · 04-01-2011, 06:09 PM

yeah man. I am totally in on this. I have been looking for a source of "Natural Male Enhancement" for quite some time now and I think this may be the key.

Toquer · 04-01-2011, 06:39 PM

8 or 9 years ago the process of compression molded carbon fiber started being used with bike manufacturing. Guys at the time were saying "I don't know about that or how strong it will be".

Look at the market now and how many products are being manufactured with compression molding. Head tube/BB shells/Seat tube juctions, suspension linkage pieces, frame integrated disc brake mounts, drop outs, brake leavers, cranks, one piece fork crown/steer tubes...... the list goes on.

What Specialized has done is truely a game changer for the bike industry as a whole! Forget the fact that they have made a DH frame. The fact that they have been able to inlay sensors to analyze the integrety of the material a key structure points is freakin amazing! This could have a huge impact on the high end market of DH/Road/XC and even BMX racing. I look forward to the spin offs of this technology. It may be expensive now, but thats only cause its new. Wait a few years. Jus like Di2, it will get cheaper and trickle down to lower price points.

Beard of Bees · 04-01-2011, 06:56 PM

You make some good points.

nouseforaname · 04-01-2011, 07:12 PM

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Originally Posted by Beard of Bees

You make some good points.

I think this is ideal for Calgary. I mean - some seasons i might only get three rides in between the snow melting and it being winter again.

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KenN I'm with the pedalphiles Join Date: Nov 2002 Location: eNVy Posts: 12,428 Rep Power: 18749929	How long before an F1 style governing body dictates how many races you need to use the same frame for? Kn. __________________ When one person suffers from a delusion, it is called insanity. When many people suffer from a delusion, it is called religion.

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Ispy Cruisin for a bruisin. Join Date: Jul 2004 Location: NVan Posts: 258 Rep Power: 61782	This is a brilliant idea but I say they take it a step further. If they're tossing the frame anyway why not use that to your advantage? Create a little extra motivation for the rider. Since they've rigged the carbon with lasers anyway why not set them on a timer, and maybe just change the light frequency, to actively destroy the bike. Think about it... "Look Sam... Atherton nailed this course in 4.38 so we've set your bike to explode at 4.22. You better hit it, timer's already started" I think it could work. __________________ "Everybody loves something, even if its just tortillas"

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04-01-2011, 04:42 PM	#16
roy Registered User Join Date: Apr 2006 Location: Coquitlam Posts: 2,291 Rep Power: 264606	so many great products being unveiled today!

04-01-2011, 04:57 PM	#17
raganwald Registered User Join Date: Aug 2010 Posts: 9 Rep Power: 0	Typical of Specialized to make a big fuss like they invented the idea. Cyclocross riders have been doing this for years... They take multiple bikes to a race and switch them out every lap. Also, 35 pounds is too heavy for a disposable. They need to get it down to 25 pounds. Disposable tech is already available from component suppliers. Cannondale has been selling carbon lefty forks that break after one ride for years. Specialized need to work with Cannondale on forks and get the other "breaks after one ride" manufacturers together to spec the parts out.

04-01-2011, 05:08 PM	#19
Spud-biker senior citizen Join Date: Nov 2002 Location: ireland Posts: 456 Rep Power: 560	The only downside I can see is the extra work on the clean-up crew after race weekend. Tear off, lost gloves and now "used" frames littering the trackside

04-01-2011, 05:25 PM	#23
Chett Registered User Join Date: Feb 2011 Posts: 46 Rep Power: 0	X2 ^^^ I dson't like the idea of riding a bike that could shatter in the next rock garden at mach speed!!! anyone seen a carbon ceramic rotor fail at speed? not pretty. 25lbs, couldn't a guy just loose ten pounds and have the same effect?

04-01-2011, 05:38 PM	#25
Bushman time will tell Join Date: Jun 2008 Posts: 5,191 Rep Power: 13496441	^added fear factor^....its like having a dog chase you.

04-01-2011, 05:42 PM	#26
Cableguy Registered User Join Date: Feb 2008 Posts: 27 Rep Power: 0	I just put in an order for 40 frames/bikes. One for each race run and qualifying.

04-01-2011, 06:09 PM	#27
NeverlosT Registered User Join Date: Dec 2009 Location: Narragansett, Rhode Island, USA Posts: 6 Rep Power: 0	yeah man. I am totally in on this. I have been looking for a source of "Natural Male Enhancement" for quite some time now and I think this may be the key.

04-01-2011, 06:39 PM	#28
Toquer Registered User Join Date: Oct 2005 Posts: 23 Rep Power: 0	8 or 9 years ago the process of compression molded carbon fiber started being used with bike manufacturing. Guys at the time were saying "I don't know about that or how strong it will be". Look at the market now and how many products are being manufactured with compression molding. Head tube/BB shells/Seat tube juctions, suspension linkage pieces, frame integrated disc brake mounts, drop outs, brake leavers, cranks, one piece fork crown/steer tubes...... the list goes on. What Specialized has done is truely a game changer for the bike industry as a whole! Forget the fact that they have made a DH frame. The fact that they have been able to inlay sensors to analyze the integrety of the material a key structure points is freakin amazing! This could have a huge impact on the high end market of DH/Road/XC and even BMX racing. I look forward to the spin offs of this technology. It may be expensive now, but thats only cause its new. Wait a few years. Jus like Di2, it will get cheaper and trickle down to lower price points.

04-01-2011, 06:56 PM	#29
Beard of Bees Registered User Join Date: Mar 2011 Location: Vernon Posts: 71 Rep Power: 0	You make some good points.