Fallen But Not Forgotten- Air Canada

enduramil · 03-01-2009, 04:01 AM

http://www.forces.gc.ca/site/commun/...ng.asp?id=5129

Fallen but not forgotten
The Maple Leaf
25 february 2009
by Gillian Crouse
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The announcement Air Canada passengers all too frequently hear at the beginning of their domestic flights is solemn and respectful.

It tells them their flight is also carrying a deceased member of the Forces home to his or her family. But the respect afforded fallen personnel begins long before passengers board.

At Toronto Pearson International Airport, there are only two things that can bring an entire operating ramp to a halt: lightning, and a fallen member of the CF being carried home.

The Air Canada Cargo team at Toronto Pearson has long had a respectful process in place for the carriage of the deceased. One day a few years back, however, Cargo team member Nick Wasielewitsch was told to expect a casket bearing a Canadian soldier who had recently been killed on tour.

evdog · 03-01-2009, 04:57 AM

Its great to see AC is there for the armed forces.

But it would be nice if they were there for the rest of us too!

sleeper · 03-01-2009, 06:58 PM

Air Canada is a fking joke of a airline. Shitty people work for them. Westjet is one 100 times better. I fly west jet even when I could fly air canada for free

yellowdogx · 03-01-2009, 07:38 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by sleeper

Air Canada is a fking joke of a airline. Shitty people work for them. Westjet is one 100 times better. I fly west jet even when I could fly air canada for free

Wow sounds like you have alot of first hand experiance working for or flying differnt airlines.

What makes you such an expert to develop such a well thought out argument why "Air Canada is a fking joke of a airline."?

Eagerly awaiting your reply.

Z

sleeper · 03-01-2009, 08:00 PM

My dad works for Air Canada and I don't like him.
Which makes me biased.

I used to fly from Toronto to Vancouver fairly often, and there was one time seats weren't open so I went with West Jet instead and I've never looked back.

It's a completely different experience. The Westjet employees were happy and out going, seemed like they wanted to be at work, and liked there jobs. They wanted to make my flight as easy and as comfortable as possible. I cannot say the same for Air Canada. I distinctly remember when the person sitting next to me got a nose bleed, and "I said excuse me" to a flight attendant as she was passing by, and she turned around and said WHAT like I had just wrecked her day. I was just going to ask for napkins for the guy next to me...

They've also lost my bags twice, once they returned them. It was a huge hassle and such a pain in the ass. Again they were just doing there jobs, didn't really seem to give a shit that I was being inconvienced. I could tell a few more stories If you'd like. But they just lack any means of customer service imo. There are better options then them. Maybe my first statement was too strong. My dad also used to tell me stories of games employees would play getting rouses out of passengers and just stupid stuff. In the past I've flown American Airlines and Southwest.

Chief · 03-01-2009, 08:35 PM

this is just another reason to stick with AC

sleeper

air canada is a much nicer airline then all of the us carriers and if you fly often then west jet offers shit all in terms of anything

BOWMAN · 03-01-2009, 08:46 PM

while ive never been stunned by air canada's service, i can honestly say i've never been screwed over by them. they've lost bags before but usually as a result of a flight getting in late and not having any time for the connection.

their ticket agents at Charles de Gaulle were fucking atrocious though.

Couch_Surfer · 03-01-2009, 10:25 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Chief

air canada is a much nicer airline then all of the us carriers and if you fly often then west jet offers shit all in terms of anything

Nonsense. United blows AC away in terms of customer service.

schoenrock · 03-01-2009, 11:03 PM

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Originally Posted by Chief

air canada is a much nicer airline then all of the us carriers and if you fly often then west jet offers shit all in terms of anything

exactly, westjet=the sux

Straw · 03-01-2009, 11:56 PM

I'll deal with bad service if I can get a good deal. Just get me where I'm going.

Work is super slow for the next week, so I decided to fly to Ontario for a week. There were good prices, and I'm just happy to go visit my family.

I have some credit with them due to a cancelled HKG-YVR flight, and I was able to put that toward this trip.

I'm pretty happy with AC. Their phone people I talked to today were really helpful too. No complaints here.

gerewh0re · 03-02-2009, 12:02 AM

wait, there are people out there who think air canada is better , service wise, than westjet

the whole culture of air canada is sickening. crippled by greedy unions and greedy execs, they are screwed. bill good did a bit on AC vs. westjet the other day and it was just a complete dump on AC. i hope the government pumps money into westjet instead of AC next time AC asks for a bailout

Feral · 03-02-2009, 04:06 AM

Back to the topic at hand:

Fallen Canadians

enduramil · 03-02-2009, 04:40 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Feral

Back to the topic at hand:

Fallen Canadians

Feral, monitor the news on Monday. DND is making a significant announcement in regards to injured soldiers and their families.

yellowdogx · 03-02-2009, 04:50 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by gerewh0re

crippled by greedy unions

So Mr Smart guy how much do you think the mechanic fixing the aircaft you are flying in someplace over the pacific at 30K feet is geting paid?

I know I used to work there and trust me for the amount of schooling/resposibilty the $ and job security just isnt there.

Think that the plane you will be flying on will soon be repaired in a third world country by air canada's MRO company Avios.

Everyone thinks everyone at AC is getting thick $ really needs to wake up.

As far as government $ bailouts go, I really dont know what the numbers are/were, maybe gerewh0re can spout off how much government funding Air Canada has had in bailouts? I am sure it is a drop in the bucket compared to bailing out the auto industry crap!

Sleeper sorry to hear they lost your bags twice, I am sure westjet has never lost anyones luggage yet

Chief · 03-02-2009, 05:05 AM

the whore clearly doesnt fly much

and for united better than american but still not as good as air canada.

i will take the maple leaf lounge and other perks that Air Canada offers
over westjets bad jokes anyday of the week! not to mention they dont even offer airmiles anymore.

03-01-2009, 04:01 AM	#1
enduramil Team NFI Join Date: Aug 2005 Location: Mr Bastard Posts: 23,537 Rep Power: 14522890	Fallen But Not Forgotten- Air Canada http://www.forces.gc.ca/site/commun/...ng.asp?id=5129 Fallen but not forgotten The Maple Leaf 25 february 2009 by Gillian Crouse Download article (PDF) Send to a friend Related Photos The announcement Air Canada passengers all too frequently hear at the beginning of their domestic flights is solemn and respectful. It tells them their flight is also carrying a deceased member of the Forces home to his or her family. But the respect afforded fallen personnel begins long before passengers board. At Toronto Pearson International Airport, there are only two things that can bring an entire operating ramp to a halt: lightning, and a fallen member of the CF being carried home. The Air Canada Cargo team at Toronto Pearson has long had a respectful process in place for the carriage of the deceased. One day a few years back, however, Cargo team member Nick Wasielewitsch was told to expect a casket bearing a Canadian soldier who had recently been killed on tour. __________________ www.thisiswhy.co.uk www.teamnfi.blogspot.com/ www.woundedwarriors.ca/

03-01-2009, 08:35 PM	#6
Chief Registered User Join Date: Apr 2005 Location: Vancouver Posts: 3,167 Rep Power: 26881	this is just another reason to stick with AC sleeper air canada is a much nicer airline then all of the us carriers and if you fly often then west jet offers shit all in terms of anything __________________ brokezors

03-01-2009, 11:56 PM	#10
Straw Jon Join Date: Jan 2004 Location: near Dollar Surprise Posts: 8,280 Rep Power: 2469338	I'll deal with bad service if I can get a good deal. Just get me where I'm going. Work is super slow for the next week, so I decided to fly to Ontario for a week. There were good prices, and I'm just happy to go visit my family. I have some credit with them due to a cancelled HKG-YVR flight, and I was able to put that toward this trip. I'm pretty happy with AC. Their phone people I talked to today were really helpful too. No complaints here. __________________ ><> 1-1-2-3-5-8-13-21-34

03-02-2009, 05:05 AM	#15
Chief Registered User Join Date: Apr 2005 Location: Vancouver Posts: 3,167 Rep Power: 26881	the whore clearly doesnt fly much and for united better than american but still not as good as air canada. i will take the maple leaf lounge and other perks that Air Canada offers over westjets bad jokes anyday of the week! not to mention they dont even offer airmiles anymore. __________________ brokezors

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03-01-2009, 04:57 AM	#2
evdog Registered User Join Date: Aug 2003 Location: San Diego Posts: 931 Rep Power: 1145847	Its great to see AC is there for the armed forces. But it would be nice if they were there for the rest of us too!

03-01-2009, 06:58 PM	#3
sleeper Dozer. Join Date: Mar 2006 Location: The West Coast! Posts: 7,079 Rep Power: 9518024	Air Canada is a fking joke of a airline. Shitty people work for them. Westjet is one 100 times better. I fly west jet even when I could fly air canada for free

03-01-2009, 08:00 PM	#5
sleeper Dozer. Join Date: Mar 2006 Location: The West Coast! Posts: 7,079 Rep Power: 9518024	My dad works for Air Canada and I don't like him. Which makes me biased. I used to fly from Toronto to Vancouver fairly often, and there was one time seats weren't open so I went with West Jet instead and I've never looked back. It's a completely different experience. The Westjet employees were happy and out going, seemed like they wanted to be at work, and liked there jobs. They wanted to make my flight as easy and as comfortable as possible. I cannot say the same for Air Canada. I distinctly remember when the person sitting next to me got a nose bleed, and "I said excuse me" to a flight attendant as she was passing by, and she turned around and said WHAT like I had just wrecked her day. I was just going to ask for napkins for the guy next to me... They've also lost my bags twice, once they returned them. It was a huge hassle and such a pain in the ass. Again they were just doing there jobs, didn't really seem to give a shit that I was being inconvienced. I could tell a few more stories If you'd like. But they just lack any means of customer service imo. There are better options then them. Maybe my first statement was too strong. My dad also used to tell me stories of games employees would play getting rouses out of passengers and just stupid stuff. In the past I've flown American Airlines and Southwest.

03-01-2009, 08:46 PM	#7
BOWMAN Wham bam thank you ma'am Join Date: Jan 2003 Location: Canada Posts: 2,118 Rep Power: 92715	while ive never been stunned by air canada's service, i can honestly say i've never been screwed over by them. they've lost bags before but usually as a result of a flight getting in late and not having any time for the connection. their ticket agents at Charles de Gaulle were fucking atrocious though.

03-02-2009, 12:02 AM	#11
gerewh0re cam's boss Join Date: Oct 2008 Posts: 5,758 Rep Power: 2289248	wait, there are people out there who think air canada is better , service wise, than westjet the whole culture of air canada is sickening. crippled by greedy unions and greedy execs, they are screwed. bill good did a bit on AC vs. westjet the other day and it was just a complete dump on AC. i hope the government pumps money into westjet instead of AC next time AC asks for a bailout

03-02-2009, 04:06 AM	#12
Feral Your suck goes to 11.. Join Date: May 2008 Location: Comox Posts: 2,848 Rep Power: 12331715	Back to the topic at hand: Fallen Canadians

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