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Old 11-14-2008, 06:14 PM   #1
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newb; high mileage toyota matrix - is 200,000 KM a lot for '03?

Co-worker has a '03 matrix (same as vibe) for sale - other then 200,000 KM the car really checks out well. What more "life" can I expect reasonably from this car? I'm not unrealistic and there are a fair number of variables - but is it really fair to expect much higher mileage from a 1.8 litre engine vibe? Same goes for the transmission (automatic) - do these just keep going or are the expen$$$ive to replace? the owner says he did 75% of driving on hwy - I believe him on that.

and any ideas from car members here on how much would be a reasonable offering price...He is asking $7000.

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Old 11-14-2008, 06:30 PM   #2
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Does he have full records? Was he the first owner? Accidents? Is the dude anal about keeping the car in good shape/general maintenance?
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Old 11-14-2008, 06:33 PM   #3
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Does he have full records? Was he the first owner? Accidents? Is the dude anal about keeping the car in good shape/general maintenance?
yes on all of them; orig owner and receipts from 04. no accidents. I'm more curious if i can reasonably expect another 100,000km or so from it without putting in a lot of money.
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Old 11-14-2008, 06:37 PM   #4
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Yeah that's pretty high mileage. There problem there is that when putting on the miles that quickly, most people tend to skip out on the regular maintenance. Oil changes go from 5000k to 8 or 9000kms, brakes get worn past the 3/4 mark and brake pistons poking out get pitted, etc.

I'm not trying to yell out doom, but check the service records, the owner history, and get the vehicle checked out at a good shop. 200,000k is usually when a bunch of shit needs to get done (timing belt, waterpump, tires, brakes, struts, transmission fluid change, etc).

As for price, check the blue book value, what other people are selling theirs for online or in the paper, and compare them all. Then offer him less money.

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Old 11-14-2008, 06:39 PM   #5
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$7K is not bad. I have a 2005 with 100K on it and it's worth about $11-12,000. Remember, it's a toyota, so with proper maintenence it will go for a long while.
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We have put 180,000 miles on our 2000 vw golf so far As long as duder took care of his car, I see no reason you should be worried. Getting all records and such is a great idea though.
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Just take it to any Toyota dealer (or mechanic) and schedule a revision.
Will probably cost you around 150$, but they can look into things that will require maintenance soon, and can tell you how much you would have to spend on that.
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Those Japanese cars easily go 300k+. But as Ken said, check service records.
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Those Japanese cars easily go 300k+. But as Ken said, check service records.
CAN GO, not always do. Saying toyota's are more reliable than any other car is a joke. make sure he has had at least 40 or close to oil changes(every 5k) and a lot of service records. The good thing about high mile hwy cars is they aren't rat bagged in the city. Unless his driving was all delivery in the city which seems hard to believe because he was putting 40k a year on it. Long commute?

As said above, take it to a dealership, best $150 spent on a $7k investment you can do. They will tell you everything. You could find a good mileage car (under 120k) for 7 g notes easily so keep looking.
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Old 11-14-2008, 08:26 PM   #10
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CAN GO, not always do. Saying toyota's are more reliable than any other car is a joke. make sure he has had at least 40 or close to oil changes(every 5k) and a lot of service records. The good thing about high mile hwy cars is they aren't rat bagged in the city. Unless his driving was all delivery in the city which seems hard to believe because he was putting 40k a year on it. Long commute?

As said above, take it to a dealership, best $150 spent on a $7k investment you can do. They will tell you everything. You could find a good mileage car (under 120k) for 7 g notes easily so keep looking.

My toyota will roll over 300,000 kms at Christmas, I've gone 60,000 between service intervals. Toyota typically use lower compression engine, which result in there long lifes.
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I also disagree that for 7000 you can find a better car to drive with 120,000kms on it. My parents owned a matrix for a few years. It was peppy, comfortable to be in, lots of space inside, handled well, reasonable fuel economy and good braking power. Which model of the matrix is it? Different transmission different models. Looking at auto dealers auctions there are a couple models in the states over 180mile marks, with all original engines and transmissions. So if you feel that car has been taken care of reasonably I would go for it. And I say this being a guy who will never buy a toyota car again.
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$7K is not bad. I have a 2005 with 100K on it and it's worth about $11-12,000. Remember, it's a toyota, so with proper maintenence it will go for a long while.
I agree with proper maintenance it's a good thing etc etc. Toyota, Nissan, and Honda all have R&D departments specializing in creating cars for real world people. People that don't always make the 5,000km oil change everytime they go 5 or 100 kms over. It's life it happens. All motors that come into north america are designed to deal with the lower quality fuel we have here. Most cars imported to the states tend to have to different lubrication systems then there counterpart. Because the majority of the population buying new vehicles on the constant basis lives in hot or dry areas (cold dry as well)
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Old 11-14-2008, 08:37 PM   #13
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I have an 04 with about 180k on it so 200k for a 03 isn't out of line, done the yota recomended service intervals, just had brakes done a couple months ago, and other than that all I have had a problem with is a cell in the battery go bad. Been an awesome car. Get it looked at by a toyota mechanic and if it is in OK shape mechanically, go for it.
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Old 11-14-2008, 09:18 PM   #14
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i too have an 04 and love it. but toyota changes oil every 8000kms not the standard 5000.

i would recommend it but after all the above said has been done....service records, yadayada.
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