SRAM XX ten speed off road group???

Oldfart · 11-13-2008, 06:21 PM

http://www.cyclingnews.com/tech.php?...008/news/11-13

sanrensho · 11-13-2008, 07:00 PM

Well one thing is for sure.

We know it will look hella ugly with awful logos/graphics a la SRAM Red. Oh, and pretty happy with 8-speed ATM.

Oldfart · 11-13-2008, 07:30 PM

I am waiting for the cries of "Who needs ten speeds?" "The chains will be too weak and will wear out faster" "The cassettes will clog with mud!"

Who needs ten speed cassettes? Cross country racers will like it. A two by ten does allow narrower bb spacing which many skinny aresed racers like. And the closer the individual gear ratios are the better. Ten speed chains have been working fine for several seasons under the road pros and cyclo cross pros too. As for mud see any of the recent cross race photos.

That said, I think a ten speed cassette has limited application for free riding and DH. Most freedogs simply plunk it in the lowest gear ratio if they ride up. I personal;y would like a cassette that had a 13 or 14 tooth high and ten cogs to a 34 low. I could see a 28 X 38 0r 40 up front as being good for the XC races I used to do. These days I am too decrepit to to push a 28X34 low. The only thing missing from the SRAM group is hubs/wheels and pedals. Is SRAM about to buy Crank Bros or Speedplay????

sanrensho · 11-13-2008, 07:35 PM

For sure, the racer-boys/girls and weight weenies will lap this stuff up.

kperras · 11-13-2008, 08:15 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by sanrensho

For sure, the racer-boys/girls and weight weenies will lap this stuff up.

Damn straight....I'm seriously considering a red der/tap shifter combo for the mtbs next year.

Nelson · 11-13-2008, 10:32 PM

They need to call it Moun10....

Dantes Inferno · 11-13-2008, 10:36 PM

Whats wrong with existing road stuff in mountain application?

big-ted · 11-13-2008, 10:38 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by kperras

Damn straight....I'm seriously considering a red der/tap shifter combo for the mtbs next year.

Wont work. Different cable pull ratios.

Oldfart · 11-13-2008, 10:46 PM

Not 100% sure but I think SRAM road derailleurs and shifters are not compatible with their mountain derailleurs . They do have a double tap 10 speed road shifter for flat bars though. I recall seeing it in a photo but whether or not it is currently available though I don't know.

Shimano road and off road shifters and rear derailleurs are cross compatible notwithstanding issues of capacity. But their front road shifters are not compatible with mountain triple derailleurs.

craw · 11-14-2008, 12:00 AM

The uber-roadies here in Brisbane looooove the 10-speed SRAM road stuff. The local shop guys all swapped out of their Dura-Ace and Campy Super Record to go SRAM...

I'm sure it'll be great. Think of all the great technology developed for XTR that found its way down to Saint and more recently SLX.

11-13-2008, 06:21 PM	#1
Oldfart Registered User Join Date: Jun 2003 Location: Whistler Posts: 4,347 Rep Power: 2658635	SRAM XX ten speed off road group??? http://www.cyclingnews.com/tech.php?...008/news/11-13 __________________ Debate? Bikes are made for riding not pushing.

11-13-2008, 07:00 PM	#2
sanrensho Registered User Join Date: Jun 2003 Location: NV Posts: 7,137 Rep Power: 592698	Well one thing is for sure. We know it will look hella ugly with awful logos/graphics a la SRAM Red. Oh, and pretty happy with 8-speed ATM. __________________ "The song of a bird...We used to ask Ennesson to do bird calls. He could do them. How he could do them, and when he perished, along with him went all those birds..."-Return from the Stars, Stanislaw Lem "We just walk around, and sometimes we go out and dance, and then we listen to the environment."-Ralf Hutter, Kraftwerk Last edited by sanrensho; 11-13-2008 at 07:05 PM.

11-13-2008, 07:30 PM	#3
Oldfart Registered User Join Date: Jun 2003 Location: Whistler Posts: 4,347 Rep Power: 2658635	I am waiting for the cries of "Who needs ten speeds?" "The chains will be too weak and will wear out faster" "The cassettes will clog with mud!" Who needs ten speed cassettes? Cross country racers will like it. A two by ten does allow narrower bb spacing which many skinny aresed racers like. And the closer the individual gear ratios are the better. Ten speed chains have been working fine for several seasons under the road pros and cyclo cross pros too. As for mud see any of the recent cross race photos. That said, I think a ten speed cassette has limited application for free riding and DH. Most freedogs simply plunk it in the lowest gear ratio if they ride up. I personal;y would like a cassette that had a 13 or 14 tooth high and ten cogs to a 34 low. I could see a 28 X 38 0r 40 up front as being good for the XC races I used to do. These days I am too decrepit to to push a 28X34 low. The only thing missing from the SRAM group is hubs/wheels and pedals. Is SRAM about to buy Crank Bros or Speedplay???? __________________ Debate? Bikes are made for riding not pushing.

11-13-2008, 07:35 PM	#4
sanrensho Registered User Join Date: Jun 2003 Location: NV Posts: 7,137 Rep Power: 592698	For sure, the racer-boys/girls and weight weenies will lap this stuff up. __________________ "The song of a bird...We used to ask Ennesson to do bird calls. He could do them. How he could do them, and when he perished, along with him went all those birds..."-Return from the Stars, Stanislaw Lem "We just walk around, and sometimes we go out and dance, and then we listen to the environment."-Ralf Hutter, Kraftwerk

11-13-2008, 10:32 PM	#6
Nelson Click Click Click Join Date: Nov 2002 Posts: 12,587 Rep Power: 34177	They need to call it Moun10.... __________________ .

11-13-2008, 10:36 PM	#7
Dantes Inferno Freetard Ricing Join Date: Dec 2004 Location: East Van Posts: 8,566 Rep Power: 2535732	Whats wrong with existing road stuff in mountain application? __________________

11-13-2008, 10:46 PM	#9
Oldfart Registered User Join Date: Jun 2003 Location: Whistler Posts: 4,347 Rep Power: 2658635	Not 100% sure but I think SRAM road derailleurs and shifters are not compatible with their mountain derailleurs . They do have a double tap 10 speed road shifter for flat bars though. I recall seeing it in a photo but whether or not it is currently available though I don't know. Shimano road and off road shifters and rear derailleurs are cross compatible notwithstanding issues of capacity. But their front road shifters are not compatible with mountain triple derailleurs. __________________ Debate? Bikes are made for riding not pushing.

11-14-2008, 12:00 AM	#10
craw Registered User Join Date: Jan 2005 Posts: 2,061 Rep Power: 1956971	The uber-roadies here in Brisbane looooove the 10-speed SRAM road stuff. The local shop guys all swapped out of their Dura-Ace and Campy Super Record to go SRAM... I'm sure it'll be great. Think of all the great technology developed for XTR that found its way down to Saint and more recently SLX. __________________ "I'm way behind the current standards, I still need to change my 9 spd to a 10 spd, my 26" to a 29" or 27.5", my 1" 1/8" to 1.5", alum. to carbon, threaded BB to press fit, and finally my 31.8 bar to 35mm. I don't understand how am I still enjoying ridng my dinosaur with all these "new standards"" - rickyretardo (PB)

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