DH wheel set

racingsessions · 05-28-2008, 06:36 AM

should i go for 721's or 823's my 721's only had a small dent in them after last season...
and for hubs i'm going for a DT 440 up front and a king in the rear... laced with tripple butted spokes... kevlar bead tubless tire's
just the rims im stuck on... i love the clincher charicteristics of the 721's, amazing tire profile on the smaller treds
but the 823 come UST tubless... so once i add the tubless kit (2 20 inch tubes) to the 721's i have a feeling they'd weigh the same, but the 823 being stronger....
damn its a toughy

kperras · 05-28-2008, 07:19 AM

I can sell you my hadley/823 wheelset.

racingsessions · 05-28-2008, 07:29 AM

nah, i work at a shop... i will get them cost... and id rather have them new, cheers anyways

Timmigrant · 05-28-2008, 05:07 PM

The 823 will be far heavier at 657 grams plus the little alloy spoke retainers. The 721's will be a better bet, especially if you can make them last.

That being said I personally prefer the Alex Supra D to the 721. The Supra D is lighter than the 721 at 580 grams, 4mm wider, and holds up far better in my experience.

cam_biking · 05-28-2008, 06:29 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Timmigrant

The 823 will be far heavier at 657 grams plus the little alloy spoke retainers. The 721's will be a better bet, especially if you can make them last.

That being said I personally prefer the Alex Supra D to the 721. The Supra D is lighter than the 721 at 580 grams, 4mm wider, and holds up far better in my experience.

thats a really good point

kperras · 05-28-2008, 07:41 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Timmigrant

The 823 will be far heavier at 657 grams plus the little alloy spoke retainers.

The 823's are shipping with brass inserts.

Timmigrant · 05-28-2008, 08:42 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by kperras

The 823's are shipping with brass inserts.

Damn ... which means that as a built wheel they're even heavier. Anyone know what the weight of the 823 with inserts is?

Bryce · 05-29-2008, 12:12 AM

I thought the 823's were 580g rim-only, 640g with the alloy inserts and like ~700g with brass inserts

I'd go 721, especially if you like the rounder tire profile that it makes. I have 823's and I'm not a fan. Sounds like KPerras isn't either

also, its tougher to top up the fluid in the 823's since you can't remove the valve core like you can on a schraeder 20" tube (or Stans rim strip)

05-28-2008, 06:36 AM	#1
racingsessions blahhh Join Date: Apr 2008 Posts: 311 Rep Power: 806	DH wheel set should i go for 721's or 823's my 721's only had a small dent in them after last season... and for hubs i'm going for a DT 440 up front and a king in the rear... laced with tripple butted spokes... kevlar bead tubless tire's just the rims im stuck on... i love the clincher charicteristics of the 721's, amazing tire profile on the smaller treds but the 823 come UST tubless... so once i add the tubless kit (2 20 inch tubes) to the 721's i have a feeling they'd weigh the same, but the 823 being stronger.... damn its a toughy

05-28-2008, 05:07 PM	#4
Timmigrant Registered User Join Date: Jan 2004 Location: Burnaby Posts: 2,396 Rep Power: 178443	The 823 will be far heavier at 657 grams plus the little alloy spoke retainers. The 721's will be a better bet, especially if you can make them last. That being said I personally prefer the Alex Supra D to the 721. The Supra D is lighter than the 721 at 580 grams, 4mm wider, and holds up far better in my experience. __________________ Biking: As addictive as cocaine, twice as expensive! My Super Interesting Website -

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05-28-2008, 07:19 AM	#2
kperras I stole Rewoga's avatar Join Date: Sep 2006 Location: NV > Sooke. Posts: 7,044 Rep Power: 3012341	I can sell you my hadley/823 wheelset.

05-28-2008, 07:29 AM	#3
racingsessions blahhh Join Date: Apr 2008 Posts: 311 Rep Power: 806	nah, i work at a shop... i will get them cost... and id rather have them new, cheers anyways

05-29-2008, 12:12 AM	#8
Bryce Registered Abuser Join Date: Nov 2002 Location: high as f%*k Posts: 6,974 Rep Power: 3139475	I thought the 823's were 580g rim-only, 640g with the alloy inserts and like ~700g with brass inserts I'd go 721, especially if you like the rounder tire profile that it makes. I have 823's and I'm not a fan. Sounds like KPerras isn't either also, its tougher to top up the fluid in the 823's since you can't remove the valve core like you can on a schraeder 20" tube (or Stans rim strip)