us travel - passports?

bunny · 12-31-2007, 02:30 AM

do kids absolutely need a passport to fly to the us (hawaii), or alternately cuba, the bahamas, or mexico?
i'm not sure of the new regulations, but if it means not going through the hassle of getting alicia a passport, i'm lazy so that will affect where we go away next month.
we flew to mexico before without one and had no problems, but i'm not sure if/how much things have changed now that we are all (including cute little 11yr olds) prospective terrorists.
thanks.

M13 · 12-31-2007, 02:39 AM

http://www.ppt.gc.ca/cdn/16-.aspx?lang=eng

Security's gone up lately.

I travelled to Mexico in September and they were checking children for ID and passport both ways.

Dave K · 12-31-2007, 02:42 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by bunny

do kids absolutely need a passport to fly to the us (hawaii), or alternately cuba, the bahamas, or mexico?
i'm not sure of the new regulations, but if it means not going through the hassle of getting alicia a passport, i'm lazy so that will affect where we go away next month.
we flew to mexico before without one and had no problems, but i'm not sure if/how much things have changed now that we are all (including cute little 11yr olds) prospective terrorists.
thanks.

yes they need a passport.

http://www.cbsa-asfc.gc.ca/whti-ivho...erien-eng.html

Dunno about the other countries you listed, but if you have to transfer in the states to get there, then again you will need a passport for the kids.

mr_fungle · 12-31-2007, 02:50 AM

We had to get a passport for our 2.5 month old so we could enter the states during Xmas - so yes, she will need a passport.

FullMonty · 12-31-2007, 02:54 AM

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Originally Posted by mr_fungle

We had to get a passport for our 2.5 month old so we could enter the states during Xmas - so yes, she will need a passport.

SIR, PUT DOWN THE BABY-SHAPED BOMB!

bunny · 12-31-2007, 02:57 AM

ugh. i wish there was a simple answer, every website says something different.
but sounds like hawaii is out, although we go to the states almost every week (driving), and they rarely even ask for her bc. they also asked for NOTHING in cancun last time we went. i think mexico is our safest bet.
i'd get the passport, but can't find her long bc, and will take a week for that, then the passport, and we'd like to go asap.
if anyone knows something i don't, please post.

TheGiggler · 12-31-2007, 03:04 AM

the rules are a LOT diff for driving across than for flying.

IMO you're risking a lot of headaches if you decide to fly to the US w/out one ...

Dropsonde · 12-31-2007, 03:16 AM

yes, my mom had to wait outside the passport office for 4+ hours in a lineup

Dave K · 12-31-2007, 03:54 AM

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Originally Posted by TheGiggler

the rules are a LOT diff for driving across than for flying.

IMO you're risking a lot of headaches if you decide to fly to the US w/out one ...

Yes. Driving to the states only requires valid government issued ID (e.g. driver's license, birth certificate). Flying to the States (and this includes if your flight has any stopover/transfers at any US airport) requires a passport.

KenN · 12-31-2007, 03:58 AM

Moral of the story, get passports for everyone in the family ASAP, regardless of travel plans. Then you're ready no matter where you're headed.

Oh, and Cuba you definitely need a passport. Just there last month.

Kn.

pedalhound · 12-31-2007, 05:14 AM

I hear cuba is GREAT.....I really want to go. And...sigh..I need to get my passport too...grrrr.....

bunny · 12-31-2007, 05:28 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Dave K

Yes. Driving to the states only requires valid government issued ID (e.g. driver's license, birth certificate). Flying to the States (and this includes if your flight has any stopover/transfers at any US airport) requires a passport.

ya there would be no stopovers to either mexico or cuba... only going for a week so direct flight is one definite requirement.

i guess it really depends on the mood of the govt official... last 4/5 times down they haven't asked for ANY id for alicia. it kind of bugs me as i could so easily be kidnapping her.

mexico... same thing.
didn't ask for any id for her, but i guess they are just happy to have us spend our money, wether we are kidnappers, terrorists, drug dealers, or just bored milfs.

either way i'll get her passport for future trips. new rules suck though.

gearwh0re · 12-31-2007, 06:22 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by bunny

ya there would be no stopovers to either mexico or cuba... only going for a week so direct flight is one definite requirement.

i guess it really depends on the mood of the govt official... last 4/5 times down they haven't asked for ANY id for alicia. it kind of bugs me as i could so easily be kidnapping her.

mexico... same thing.
didn't ask for any id for her, but i guess they are just happy to have us spend our money, wether we are kidnappers, terrorists, drug dealers, or just bored milfs.

either way i'll get her passport for future trips. new rules suck though.

don't need a passport for land crossing so book from bellingham or seattle and drive over (for hawaii)

or fly direct to mexico without a US stopover, and obviously for cuba you wouldn't go through the US

so all 3 are 100% doable without a pasaporte

tFly · 12-31-2007, 08:01 AM

Wasn't there a story of some entire family (Cdn I'm fairly sure) about a flight that had to make an emergengy landing in the states, they didn't have passports or something, so they were sent to some detention camp for months under the states' crazy new laws? That'd sure ruin your vacation.

12-31-2007, 02:30 AM	#1
bunny wooptydoo Join Date: Apr 2003 Location: frolicking in the hay Posts: 3,115 Rep Power: 24042	us travel - passports? do kids absolutely need a passport to fly to the us (hawaii), or alternately cuba, the bahamas, or mexico? i'm not sure of the new regulations, but if it means not going through the hassle of getting alicia a passport, i'm lazy so that will affect where we go away next month. we flew to mexico before without one and had no problems, but i'm not sure if/how much things have changed now that we are all (including cute little 11yr olds) prospective terrorists. thanks. __________________ ride a horse! 1200 pounds of raw muscle, power, grace, and sweat between your legs... but riding bikes is still fun!

12-31-2007, 02:39 AM	#2
M13 GT3071R Join Date: Jun 2003 Location: BC Posts: 3,690 Rep Power: 23213	http://www.ppt.gc.ca/cdn/16-.aspx?lang=eng Security's gone up lately. I travelled to Mexico in September and they were checking children for ID and passport both ways. __________________ oh hai!

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mr_fungle eurotrash in canucklestan Join Date: Nov 2002 Location: NVLOC Posts: 5,396 Rep Power: 4506328	We had to get a passport for our 2.5 month old so we could enter the states during Xmas - so yes, she will need a passport. __________________ When Alan Shepard was waiting for liftoff to become the first American in space, a reporter asked him what he was thinking about. He replied, "The fact that every part of this ship was built by the lowest bid."

12-31-2007, 02:57 AM	#6
bunny wooptydoo Join Date: Apr 2003 Location: frolicking in the hay Posts: 3,115 Rep Power: 24042	ugh. i wish there was a simple answer, every website says something different. but sounds like hawaii is out, although we go to the states almost every week (driving), and they rarely even ask for her bc. they also asked for NOTHING in cancun last time we went. i think mexico is our safest bet. i'd get the passport, but can't find her long bc, and will take a week for that, then the passport, and we'd like to go asap. if anyone knows something i don't, please post. __________________ ride a horse! 1200 pounds of raw muscle, power, grace, and sweat between your legs... but riding bikes is still fun!

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Dropsonde Registered User Join Date: Jul 2007 Posts: 7,034 Rep Power: 5732276	yes, my mom had to wait outside the passport office for 4+ hours in a lineup __________________

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TheGiggler Team Shuttlewhore Join Date: Jul 2003 Location: in the fog Posts: 5,250 Rep Power: 59034	the rules are a LOT diff for driving across than for flying. IMO you're risking a lot of headaches if you decide to fly to the US w/out one ...

12-31-2007, 03:58 AM	#10
KenN I'm with the pedalphiles Join Date: Nov 2002 Location: eNVy Posts: 12,426 Rep Power: 18749929	Moral of the story, get passports for everyone in the family ASAP, regardless of travel plans. Then you're ready no matter where you're headed. Oh, and Cuba you definitely need a passport. Just there last month. Kn. __________________ When one person suffers from a delusion, it is called insanity. When many people suffer from a delusion, it is called religion.

12-31-2007, 05:14 AM	#11
pedalhound Artist formerly known as mudpuppy Join Date: Nov 2002 Location: Victoria Posts: 9,113 Rep Power: 2725281	I hear cuba is GREAT.....I really want to go. And...sigh..I need to get my passport too...grrrr..... __________________ The Mountain Bike Life

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