Handcuffed for "stealing" my own bike by the RCMP

[enduramil]

Originally Posted by tungsten

“When men yield up the privilege of thinking, the last shadow of liberty quits the horizon.”

Hook, line and sinker.

[Zedbra]

we need more guns...my rights feel violated and my kids have to watch me in pure shock and hoprror being out in public without my Glock. That'll right more wrongs. **KenN can now be our filibuster du jour**

[tungsten]

Originally Posted by enduramil

Hook, line and sinker.

Happy to proselytize you anytime, endo-man.

Btw the film was made for, um, guys like you.

[Mishtar]

Originally Posted by CarbonCopy

i don't think the cops owe people an apology for following up on leads or tips. they're just doing their job. the handcuffing does not seem like a big deal. why shouldn't they handcuff suspects? because the suspects don't like it? gimmie a break. if they had hurt you, or held you for any length of time, that would be different.

i'm glad to hear the cops are serious about bike theft.

WTF would they not owe him a simple appolgy for mistaking him for a criminal and hand cuffing him and locking him up in their car. That is fucking idiotic, it takes no extra effort from them to just say they are sorry for the inconvience and maybe explain why they thought he had stolen the bike. A simple appology goes a long way.

[Zedbra]

Originally Posted by Mishtar

A simple appology goes a long way.

are you talking about the cops, or KenN?

[hypa]

Originally Posted by Zedbra

are you talking about the cops, or KenN?

[syncro]

Originally Posted by hypa

2/10

[hypa]

Originally Posted by syncro

2/10

0/100


so there.

[KenN]

Every obtuse angle has a complementary acute angle.


Kn.

[HIBuLlitT]

Originally Posted by Zedbra

are you talking about the cops, or KenN?

Hey Z, not sure what your avatar is, but it looks like someone stirring something up.
So, I thought I'd do some stirring myself.

I only copy/pasted the most "important" "facts". Also, you are far more likely to be
killed by a cop by accident than killed by a terrorist. Hell, more Americans are killed
by cops each year than American soldiers are killed in Afghanistan.

*stir-stir*

http://actionamerica.org/guns/guns1.shtml (I had to delete some text)

The most revealing fact in the gun-control controversy is that among all of the criminologists who have ever changed their opinion on gun control, EVERY LAST ONE has moved from a position supporting gun control to the side skeptical of gun control and not the other way around... NOT EVEN ONE! Think about the significance of that one simple fact.


Principal among the facts that Wolfgang was disappointed to learn, is that Guns are used for self-defense between 2.1 Million and 2.5 Million times every year. The following facts from the Kleck/Gertz study, relate directly to this fact.

In the vast majority of those self-defense cases, the citizen will only brandish the gun or fire a warning shot.
In less than 8% of those self-defense cases will the citizen will even wound his attacker.
Over 1.9 million of those self-defense cases involve handguns.
As many as 500,000 of those self-defense cases occur away from home.
Almost 10% of those self-defense cases are women defending themselves against sexual assault or abuse.
This means that guns are used 60 times more often to protect the lives of law-abiding citizens than to take a life.
At an estimated 263 million US population, in 1995, when the study was released, it also means that an average of 1 out of every 105 to 125 people that you know will use a gun for self-defense every year.



that burglars are more than three and a half times more likely to enter an occupied home in a gun control country than in the USA. Compare the 45% average rate of Great Britain, Canada and Netherlands with the 12.7% of the USA. He continued to point out that citizens shoot and kill at least twice as many criminals every year as do police (1,527 to 606).


The Wall Street Journal reported, in an August 28, 1996 article titled, "More Guns, Less Violent Crime," that a University of Chicago study revealed that states which passed concealed carry laws reduced their murder rate by 8.5%, rapes by 5%, aggravated assaults by 7% and robbery by 3%.


A 1979 Carter Justice Department study found that of more than 32,000 attempted rapes, 32% were actually committed. That number dropped to only 3% when the woman was armed. That means that an unarmed woman is more than 10 times more likely to be raped than an armed woman.


The National Safety Council Report titled, "What Are the Odds of Dying?" for 1998 reveals that you are almost twice as likely to die from natural environmental factors (1,521 deaths), such as injuries caused by animals, plants or exposure to the elements than from an accidental gunshot (866 deaths). Think about it. The same report shows that you are more likely to choke to death on a piece of food (1,147 deaths) or die from falling down stairs (1,389 deaths) as to die from an errant bullet. You are four times more likely to die in a fire (3,255 deaths) or drown (3,964 deaths). The simple fact is that there are many things that we take for granted in life that are much more dangerous than guns. In 1998, there were 43,501 motor vehicle deaths, 10,255 poisoning deaths, 3,228 deaths from complications or misadventures of surgical or medical care and 16,274 total falling deaths - maybe we should ban ladders.

Get this! In 1998, there were 723 persons killed by falling objects. Compare that to 866 gun related deaths. So, using the logic proposed by the anti-Second Amendment types, our lawmakers should require us to wear helmets at all times.

To put this all into perspective, according to the National Safety Council, in 1998, of the 150,445 total deaths due to injury in the United States, the total number of accidental deaths was 97,835. That means that the 866 accidental gun related deaths amounted to far less than 1% of all accidental deaths. In other words, the anti-self defense crowd's accidental shooting argument is nothing but smoke and mirrors.


Don't think that just because the police are trained in the use of firearms that they are less likely to kill an innocent person. A University of Chicago Study revealed that in 1993 approximately 700,000 police killed 330 innocent individuals, while approximately 250,000,000 private citizens only killed 30 innocent people. Do the math. That's a per capita rate for the police, of almost 4000 times higher than the population in general. OK, that is a little misleading. Let's just include the 80,000,000 gun owning citizens. Now the police are down to only a 1200 times higher accidental shooting rate than the gun-owning population in general.


That still sounds high. So let's look at it in a different light. According to a study by Newsweek magazine, only 2% of civilian shootings involve an innocent person being shot (not killed). The error rate for police is 11%. What this means is that you are more than 5 times more likely to be accidentally shot by a policeman than by an armed citizen. But, when you consider that citizens shoot and kill at least twice as many criminals as do police every year, it means that, per capita, you are more than 11 times more likely to be accidentally shot by a policeman than by an armed citizen. That is as low as I can get that number.


The Kleck study shows that police shoot and kill around 600 criminals each year. Yet the University of Chicago study shows that police killed 330 innocent individuals in 1993. That means that for every two criminals killed by police, one innocent citizen is killed by police. Although I have the greatest respect for the police and how they must respond under pressure, I think that I would much rather trust an armed populace.


Don't count on the media, your government, your political party, Rush Limbaugh, the G-Man (Liddy) or even me. Follow the other links on this page and start doing your own research. Learn the facts and then make your own decision. Then, once you are armed with the facts,...
GET INVOLVED!
And if you don't have one,
GET A GUN!
Then, learn how to use it!

[Zedbra]

That there avatar is a friendly bloke pouring a beer. He was later handcuffed for his own protection and I, for one, am A-okay with that.

Originally Posted by KenN

Every obtuse angle has a complementary acute angle.


Kn.

8/10

[Buster Bluth]

99% of the epic threads here turn into a pissing match. Just once I would like to see someone break the mold with a nude picture of their wife or something.

[Zedbra]

[HIBuLlitT]

Originally Posted by Buster Bluth

99% of the epic threads here turn into a pissing match. Just once I would like to see someone break the mold with a nude picture of their wife or something.

It's A Dirty Job, So Probably Someone Else Should Do It ?

Why don't you start.

[hypa]

Originally Posted by Buster Bluth

99% of the epic threads here turn into a pissing match.

agreed.
I'm starting to think that the majority of those supporting the officer are simply trolling. If that's the case, then there's no reason to come back here. Who needs that kind of aggravation?

Just once I would like to see someone break the mold with a nude picture of their wife or something.

You go first.
Post, PM or email, I'm okay with all forms of tittay communication.