2013 Rocky Mountain Altitude 650B - Page 2

biggles604 · 08-25-2012, 12:34 AM

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Originally Posted by Oldfart

I think that I am light enough at 140 plus gear that my 36 won't likely creak. My 32 26" forks have never creaked, but my Reba did. Twice. My 32 29er forks have both creaked at 120mm setting. Yeah annoying as hell. Was thinking of dripping some of that super thin wicking locktite in there to see if it might do anything. Can't hurt.

At 160, I made my 36 creak. I pushed it hard, but nothing out of it's design intent.

FlipSide · 08-25-2012, 01:59 AM

Very nice bike!

It seems to me the geometry and BB height adjustability of the bike could make it accept 26" wheels quite nicely and it would still be a great ride! Any thoughts on that?

morgman · 08-25-2012, 03:47 AM

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Originally Posted by FlipSide

It seems to me the geometry and BB height adjustability of the bike could make it accept 26" wheels quite nicely and it would still be a great ride! Any thoughts on that?

I would try before you buy with that idea... let us know how it goes!

LostBoyScout · 08-25-2012, 05:54 AM

I totally love the new bike. I love the wheel size, I love the adjustability.

Kashima injections into the creaking interface should fix the loud forks. It's like collagen for bikes.

Bagheera · 08-26-2012, 07:40 PM

Did I miss something, or am I the only one who would like to know about the weight (for all models, not just the one we can't afford)?

Is nobody concerned about those seat tubes? Didn't like them on the new Elements and don't like them now. As a tall rider who's no lightweight I'm concerned about them developping tears or breaking off.

pete@nsmb.com · 08-26-2012, 11:19 PM

@Bagheera - I'm not sure if weights were issued at the launch but maybe Morgan has something...

Those seat tubes w/o braces are something Rocky worked hard to design. It's difficult to make them strong enough, but they did it (in carbon and then in aluminum - and they were carefully tested). Remember, there is a long pedigree in tube and frame design there. Aesthetically, I think it looks great, but it also helped save weight.

dpfeiff12 · 08-27-2012, 08:38 PM

So how do you think this bike will compare to the 2013 Specialized Enduro? Seems to me if you go full slack on the Altitude you have a bike that's very similar to the Enduro...

biggles604 · 08-27-2012, 08:54 PM

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Originally Posted by dpfeiff12

So how do you think this bike will compare to the 2013 Specialized Enduro? Seems to me if you go full slack on the Altitude you have a bike that's very similar to the Enduro...

The Altitude compares more to a Stumpjumper, the slayer compares to the Enduro. Go full slack on the Alt, and it's more like a Stumpy Evo.

Bradical · 08-28-2012, 01:08 AM

Sweet ride, exactly what I'm looking for , except perhaps maybe a Slayer.
Anyone know if Rocky will offer the Slayer in 650B for 2013 ?

jvp · 08-28-2012, 04:37 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Oldfart

Was thinking of dripping some of that super thin wicking locktite in there to see if it might do anything. Can't hurt.

What's this loctite product you speak of? I've got an '08 Lyrik that's developed a rather nasty creaky groan. I wouldn't mind trying to quiet it down.

mr_fungle · 08-28-2012, 05:14 AM

Dammit! Another bike on the short list for 2013.

morgman · 08-28-2012, 05:47 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Bagheera

Did I miss something, or am I the only one who would like to know about the weight (for all models, not just the one we can't afford)?

I wasn't provided with those numbers, nor is my estimate accurate to within a pound on 30, so I'll check in with Rocky and report back.

Quote:

Originally Posted by dpfeiff12

So how do you think this bike will compare to the 2013 Specialized Enduro? Seems to me if you go full slack on the Altitude you have a bike that's very similar to the Enduro...

Quote:

Originally Posted by biggles604

The Altitude compares more to a Stumpjumper, the slayer compares to the Enduro. Go full slack on the Alt, and it's more like a Stumpy Evo.

The 2013 Enduro has a 66.5 HA on a Fox 34 160. I'd actually wager that this 650B Altitude with the 34 150, 68.3 to 66.6 HA, would compete with the Enduro rather than the Stumpy. The Stumpy EVO would need to have a 34 if we were to compare it fairly... and that's something I would personally like to see.

Quote:

Originally Posted by Bradical

Sweet ride, exactly what I'm looking for , except perhaps maybe a Slayer.
Anyone know if Rocky will offer the Slayer in 650B for 2013 ?

Haven't heard anything, though Rocky kept the 650B Altitude under wraps pretty well too.

Bagheera · 08-28-2012, 09:31 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by pete@nsmb.com

@Bagheera - I'm not sure if weights were issued at the launch but maybe Morgan has something...

Those seat tubes w/o braces are something Rocky worked hard to design. It's difficult to make them strong enough, but they did it (in carbon and then in aluminum - and they were carefully tested). Remember, there is a long pedigree in tube and frame design there. Aesthetically, I think it looks great, but it also helped save weight.

Yes, a pedigree that includes the RM series (which neeeeeeeever broke) and frames with seat tubes continuing above the top tube wich would crack (with proper seatpost insertion)...

Just sayin'
I would love to believe these seat tubes last, but I'm having a hard time believing it...
And yes, I love RMBs, two of my three main bikes are Rocky Mountains.

morgman · 08-30-2012, 08:24 PM

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Originally Posted by morgman

Haven't heard anything, though Rocky kept the 650B Altitude under wraps pretty well too.

Rocky's announced the full 2013 line, Altitude is the only 650B.

http://www.bikes.com/main+en+01_100+...CATID=1&Y=2013

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FlipSide Registered User Join Date: Nov 2002 Posts: 220 Rep Power: 223546	Very nice bike! It seems to me the geometry and BB height adjustability of the bike could make it accept 26" wheels quite nicely and it would still be a great ride! Any thoughts on that?

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LostBoyScout Hello. Join Date: Dec 2002 Location: East Van Posts: 573 Rep Power: 2483583	I totally love the new bike. I love the wheel size, I love the adjustability. Kashima injections into the creaking interface should fix the loud forks. It's like collagen for bikes.

08-26-2012, 07:40 PM	#20
Bagheera No Flow Show Join Date: Jul 2009 Posts: 58 Rep Power: 0	Did I miss something, or am I the only one who would like to know about the weight (for all models, not just the one we can't afford)? Is nobody concerned about those seat tubes? Didn't like them on the new Elements and don't like them now. As a tall rider who's no lightweight I'm concerned about them developping tears or breaking off.

08-26-2012, 11:19 PM	#21
pete@nsmb.com Crashministrator Join Date: Nov 2002 Location: Ze NV Posts: 2,533 Rep Power: 666	@Bagheera - I'm not sure if weights were issued at the launch but maybe Morgan has something... Those seat tubes w/o braces are something Rocky worked hard to design. It's difficult to make them strong enough, but they did it (in carbon and then in aluminum - and they were carefully tested). Remember, there is a long pedigree in tube and frame design there. Aesthetically, I think it looks great, but it also helped save weight.

08-27-2012, 08:38 PM	#22
dpfeiff12 Registered User Join Date: Aug 2012 Posts: 1 Rep Power: 0	So how do you think this bike will compare to the 2013 Specialized Enduro? Seems to me if you go full slack on the Altitude you have a bike that's very similar to the Enduro...

08-28-2012, 05:14 AM	#26
mr_fungle eurotrash in canucklestan Join Date: Nov 2002 Location: NVLOC Posts: 5,417 Rep Power: 5015255	Dammit! Another bike on the short list for 2013.