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Old 03-25-2012, 07:20 PM   #31
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In the "Related Videos" to Obama talking about Trayvon, there's a video of Rick Santorum shooting a handgun at a target while someone in the crowd shouts "PRETEND ITS OBAMA!"

Pretty sure that highlights some cultural differences...

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Old 03-25-2012, 07:22 PM   #32
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I thought it was a reference to while white people argue over graphs and statistics, blacks
down south get screwed on a daily basis when it comes to equal rights...even in our "modern"
age.
And, maybe it's a comment on how disconnected white people are from the black experience.
Black people down south don't need facts and figures to know they're getting screwed by
the US justice system.
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Old 03-25-2012, 07:27 PM   #33
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Didn't you know? Enduramil is part black because of where he sometimes throws his penis.
Maybe if you had you proctologist assist with your removing your head from your ass. You would understand how ignorant you actually are.
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Old 03-26-2012, 12:11 AM   #34
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Yep.
How he arrived at that assumption is seriously beyond me.

Perhaps b/c he's a former American? I donut know.

I'll just go with you taking the easy way out and agreeing with what seems to be the best words put in your mouth in a long time. Other than that what your missus tells you to say of course.
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Old 03-26-2012, 02:42 AM   #35
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This is one of the first times that Obama's weighed in on race issues...

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Old 03-26-2012, 02:49 AM   #36
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lol rick santorum.
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Old 03-26-2012, 03:39 AM   #37
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a first hand witness has different story....though its fox news

http://www.myfoxtampabay.com/dpp/new...erman-03232012



some facebook type stuff shows Martin was a gang banging fighting trouble maker.

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While Canada isn't a pinnacle of virtue for race relations, I agree with Cam that this event really reflects a lot of what has gone wrong in the US. The way this Zimmerman guy hasn't been charged is insane. He shot someone and there's no way that would have happened here. Our society is very different and I think that Cam pointed this out very effectively.

I notice that Zimmerman isn't as white as his name would suggest, but that he identifies as Hispanic. This is when we'll start seeing people defend his actions by arguing about who he is in order to deflect attention from what he did. He shot someone that wasn't doing anything wrong.

And Enduramil, I thought you were making fun of Cam for being defensive with all his graphs and paragraphs, but what you said also reminded me of Rick Santorum mocking Obama for being a snob when he said he wants people to go to college. I agree that facts and figures can take away from a lived personal experience of racism, but I believe that it it's only through a deeper understanding of these situations that policy decisions can be made that can change things for the better. I'm pessimistic about this happening in real life in American society, but it's how I believe change will happen.
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Another good "version" of events from the night of the "murder"

Sounds like the media may have skewed the info a bit for shock value?

http://www.examiner.com/charleston-c...trayvon-martin
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Another good "version" of events from the night of the "murder"

Sounds like the media may have skewed the info a bit for shock value?

http://www.examiner.com/charleston-c...trayvon-martin
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It's getting really tough to decipher the truth now that opposing sides are trying to muddy the waters. Apparently some of the photos getting posted of Trayvon are doctored to make him look older and bigger. At the same time the images used by most of the media were old, making him look younger and more vulnerable. There are some questions about what was said on the 911 tape as well.

What a mess. I have no faith that anyone can get to the truth of this matter now that it has become so politicized.
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It's getting really tough to decipher the truth now that opposing sides are trying to muddy the waters.

What a mess. I have no faith that anyone can get to the truth of this matter now that it has become so politicized.
yup another prime example of agenda's at work
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See what Al Jazerra is publishing - seems they have a pretty neutral view on things...

http://www.aljazeera.com/indepth/opi...050876362.html
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Lots of details released:
http://www.thestar.com/news/world/ar...ead-rally?bn=1

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Although it is a tragedy the man who shot him was acting legally, until he has had his day in court simply assuming he is guilty is wrong and will help out his defense. If you don't like the law repeal it.

Remember this case is not exactly new and has been investigated once already. The amount of time spent in the media on voicing inflammatory opinions vs facts is shameful. To anyone who prejudges based on limited and biased media exposure, I hope you might consider the historical record of trial by media.
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