Lefty Recall

[Splan]

http://www.cbc.ca/consumer/recalls/2007/06/mountain_bikes_withdrawn_from.html

http://www.cpsc.gov/cpscpub/prerel/prhtml07/07211.html

[Heathen]

Crackanfail. Enough said

[VancouverIslguy]

Crackanfail. Enough said

Wow, astute comment there sherlock. The loctite that was applied to threads located within the internals of the fork was a bad batch, any shop with a lefty tool and some blue loctite can fix the problem.

[nouseforaname]

Crackanfail. Enough said

Yeah cuz no one else is having fork issues this year are they [/sarc]

:lemon:

[XXX_er]

cracknfail,cracknfail,cracknfail , just like yer toddler who gets hung up on the pee-pee or fuck word if we say it enough he eventualy tires of saying it

BTW thats the shorter lefty on the rush & scalpel which has been around for alot of years the newer long travel lefty MAX(140mm travel) is not affected

as it was pointed out cannondale is actualy making this front fork which could fail as opposed to a fork manufacterer who would make a fork that fails

anybody tried that fork? for a short travel 80-100mm xc fork it just might be WAY nicer than any other short fork out there??This product is in the class of forks like the SID (none of those have ever broke?)which to quote the SRAM rep " if its set up properly has like 2.5 inches of travel " ... not the long travel totem which also seems to be breaking eh?

[flattire]

Of all the bike manufacturers I admire cannondale the most. Pushing the design envelope. Any cannondale nay-sayer usually knows nothing about design-engineering-manufacturing and should go shut his pie hole and go ride his norco/kona.

[sheffy]

IMO....i really dont get who the hell would want or trust a fork with only one stanction:(

[HIBuLlitT]

After looking at the images of said fork, I've come to the conclusion that the
person who's responsibility to install the right stanchion on these forks has been
remiss in their duties.

[sheffy]

After looking at the images of said fork, I've come to the conclusion that the
person who's responsibility to install the right stanchion on these forks has been
remiss in their duties.

lol....nice one8)

[HIBuLlitT]

thank you, thank you, I'll be here all week...

[XXX_er]

IMO....i really dont get who the hell would want or trust a fork with only one stanction:(

well if you drive a car or have at least ridden in one ... YOU DID

a macpherson strut suspension which is on most japenese cars is the most like a lefty but look at the front end on virtualy every car/truck/bus ever made and they use ONE strut not unlike the lefty

a number of high end motor cycles use a one sided fork or swingarm ... the engineering is there ,it works

try a lefty ,once you quit looking down at it you will forget there is only one strut

and they ride great ,they give you a little card with the recommended 3 pressures to use in the fork and shock and they are pretty much spot on and the bike is super balanced

[sheffy]

well if you drive a car or have at least ridden in one ... YOU DID

a macpherson strut suspension which is on most japenese cars is the most like a lefty but look at the front end on virtualy every car/truck/bus ever made and they use ONE strut not unlike the lefty

a number of high end motor cycles use a one sided fork or swingarm ... the engineering is there ,it works

try a lefty ,once you quit looking down at it you will forget there is only one strut

and they ride great ,they give you a little card with the recommended 3 pressures to use in the fork and shock and they are pretty much spot on and the bike is super balanced

Ya but in a car theres another one on the other side of the vechicle if all hell breaks loose:trinity: ....Sorry man theres no way i would ever ride one of those.....have a look in the Whistler or SS lineups and count how many lefties you see?????? NONE...with the way the riding has progressed the last thing i want to have to worry about is riding some crazy fork design (like was said above) that the designers forgot to finish:lol:

[NeRo]

I wonder how many of the people that are making fun of this fork have actually riden on it? Before I rode it I was wondering how stiff it would actually be and how safe it feels. Well... after riding it for the first time i was completely blown away by it... it was waaaaay stiffer than my marzocchi xc forks, lighter and I felt way more safe on them than I did on the marzocchis. I can just plow through rough sections on the fork and it is sooo plush and the travel feels so limitless compared to other xc forks out there. I love it... and thats why I own and race on one. Its amazing... stop judging it before you ride it!

[sheffy]

I wonder how many of the people that are making fun of this fork have actually riden on it? Before I rode it I was wondering how stiff it would actually be and how safe it feels. Well... after riding it for the first time i was completely blown away by it... it was waaaaay stiffer than my marzocchi xc forks, lighter and I felt way more safe on them than I did on the marzocchis. I can just plow through rough sections on the fork and it is sooo plush and the travel feels so limitless compared to other xc forks out there. I love it... and thats why I own and race on one. Its amazing... stop judging it before you ride it!

Safer than Marzocchi?????............................:lol:

[XXX_er]

If you lose the front wheel on any vehical the other side isnt gona help much

whistler /ss/ sunpeaks ... any bike park is hardly the correct application is it ?The max is only 140mm and basicly everything at the park is gona be alot more travel than that but in fact cedric gracia won alot of dual slaloms using a lefty


sure you wana dry to the 7-11 for that slurpy ... maybe you wana walk eh?

[NeRo]

Safer than Marzocchi?????............................:lol:

notice that i say marzocchi xc forks....

you seem to be comparing leftys which are xc + light all-mountain forks to full on downhill forks... the reason you don't see leftys in bike parks is becasue thats not what they are made for. on the bikes that cannondale does make for freeride/downhill they don't put leftys on them because thats not what they are made for... they are made for xc and compared to other xc forks ive riden on they do feel safer and more stiff.

[sheffy]

If you lose the front wheel on any vehical the other side isnt gona help much

whistler /ss/ sunpeaks ... any bike park is hardly the correct application is it ?The max is only 140mm and basicly everything at the park is gona be alot more travel than that but in fact cedric gracia won alot of dual slaloms using a lefty


sure you wana dry to the 7-11 for that slurpy ... maybe you wana walk eh?

Cedric could win on a Sportmart bike:lol: .....7-11 sure id love a slurpee

[XXX_er]

. it was waaaaay stiffer than my marzocchi xc forks, lighter and I felt way more safe on them than I did on the marzocchis. I can just plow through rough sections on the fork and it is sooo plush and the travel feels so limitless compared to other xc forks out there. I love it... and thats why I own and race on one. Its amazing... stop judging it before you ride it!

ya man

straddle the front wheel on any freeride dc fork and give the bars a shake

straddle a lefty and do the same thing ... the lefty is stiffer


what racing do you use it for nero ?

BTW at interbike in 2004 when cedric was still with c-dale we asked one of the c-dale people how many forks he had pooched and they told us 2 ... hell thats like a good month for some of the folks on this board

[XXX_er]

Cedric could win on a Sportmart bike:lol: .....7-11 sure id love a slurpee

ya so you seee how big he goes and tell me he is gona trust his neck and the chance of losing the race to a product he doesnt have faith in?

[NeRo]

ya man

straddle the front wheel on any freeride dc fork and give the bars a shake

straddle a lefty and do the same thing ... the lefty is stiffer


what racing do you use it for nero ?

BTW at interbike in 2004 when cedric was still with c-dale we asked one of the c-dale people how many forks he had pooched and they told us 2 ... hell thats like a good month for some of the folks on this board

i use it for just xc racing around here... high school series, rat race and the test of metal. I have the lefty speed carbon terralogic, it is one amazing fork.

you ride one im guessing? what model do you own?

Edit: heres my cannondaleeee: http://www.cannondale.com/bikes/05/cusa/model-5FS4S.html

this thread is awesome!

[XXX_er]

lefty max with SPV on a prophet 1000,this exact bike same color

http://www.cannondale.com/bikes/05/cusa/model-5VE1.html

air up the top and bottom chamber and its perfectly tuned ,the the strut bolts MUST be torked ,they were not from the factory and they did loosen off till I did them with a tork wrench ... only problem I had with the bike.And 2005 was a bleeding edge 1st year for the prophet and the max from which developed the rush in a slightly lighter design

[XXX_er]

http://www.golefty.com/flash.html

check this out ... no flex

[HIBuLlitT]

If you lose the front wheel on any vehical the other side isnt gona help much



you have obviously never lost a front wheel on your car. Just so you know, I
don't care how safe the lefty is or isn't, I am apathetic on that part of the equation.
I have too good of a imagination and I'm too pessimistic to let myself become
relaxed to be able to enjoy "all that stiffness".

From a geek perspective, I am intrigued by the design but never will be sold.

[Six]

anybody tried that fork? for a short travel 80-100mm xc fork it just might be WAY nicer than any other short fork out there??This product is in the class of forks like the SID (none of those have ever broke?)which to quote the SRAM rep " if its set up properly has like 2.5 inches of travel " ... not the long travel totem which also seems to be breaking eh?

I had a 2005 Prophet with a Lefty Max on it...wasn't super happy with the Prophet in general but the Lefty kicked ass....super stiff...like zero flex...the only downside is the front wheel doesn't come off. That's a pain for flats, racks that require a fork mount..basically u are doomed to pissing your friends off because the bike won't fit in their vehicles...at least that was my experience.

[treezz]

I had a 2005 Prophet with a Lefty Max on it...wasn't super happy with the Prophet in general but the Lefty kicked ass....super stiff...like zero flex...the only downside is the front wheel doesn't come off. That's a pain for flats, racks that require a fork mount..basically u are doomed to pissing your friends off because the bike won't fit in their vehicles...at least that was my experience.


guess you never realized that you did not have to take of the wheel to fix a flat.

[Kye]

Ya but in a car theres another one on the other side of the vechicle if all hell breaks loose:trinity: ....Sorry man theres no way i would ever ride one of those.....have a look in the Whistler or SS lineups and count how many lefties you see?????? NONE...with the way the riding has progressed the last thing i want to have to worry about is riding some crazy fork design (like was said above) that the designers forgot to finish:lol:

I guess you missed the clip in a NWD vid with Gracia and AC chusson (sp?) dirt jumping them. X-ups :)

[Six]

guess you never realized that you did not have to take of the wheel to fix a flat.

WTF? And the whole time I owned the bike I was riding with a flat front tire...

[XXX_er]

well so far its proven to 5.5 inches ,the lefty concept may/may not be good in really long travel but we will probably never know

an ya hibullit I get where yer coming from ,the guy from the shop down the street couldnt even sit on a lefty in the shop ... it just totaly freaked him out

[notasslowasu]

Ya but in a car theres another one on the other side of the vechicle if all hell breaks loose ....Sorry man theres no way i would ever ride one of those.....have a look in the Whistler or SS lineups and count how many lefties you see?????? NONE...with the way the riding has progressed the last thing i want to have to worry about is riding some crazy fork design (like was said above) that the designers forgot to finish

So I guess you people should never fly in a plane because they use the same technology on there landing gear. And if your spindle snaps on your car its not the best thing just having 3 other ones. Tire goes one way car the other. I know it happened to me.

Until you try one you don't know what they are like. They are stiff, light and hold up better than most XC forks on the market. I run a lefty on bike thats not even a crackenfail because it works.

[Craz]

guess you never realized that you did not have to take of the wheel to fix a flat.

I would imagine it would be quite a bitch to maneuver the wheel around to get the tire off and stuff while it was still attached to the bike. I've never tried it, and it's possible, but I bet it's easier when you have the wheel free and in your lap.

Question: what do you do if you toast the front wheel on it? What if the hub needs rebuilding? Or are you talking about bolt on vs QR?

[Geologyboy]

How sweet would a lefty be on this bike?

http://bb.nsmb.com/showthread.php?t=101844

[XXX_er]

I would imagine it would be quite a bitch to maneuver the wheel around to get the tire off and stuff while it was still attached to the bike. I've never tried it, and it's possible, but I bet it's easier when you have the wheel free and in your lap.

Question: what do you do if you toast the front wheel on it? What if the hub needs rebuilding? Or are you talking about bolt on vs QR?

well obviously you don't nedd to take off the front wheel to change a tire

if you toast the front wheel you build another one just like any other bike ,the manufacturer is on the same continent as you , parts/bikes /whatever comes by ups in however long that takes from eastern U.S.

from a tech perspective the cannondale dealer has a special axle to put the wheel into a park truing stand

[HIBuLlitT]

So I guess you people should never fly in a plane because they use the same technology on there landing gear.

well...landing gear failure does happen, but, a airplanes landing gear is a lot more
robust than the lefty, they don't rely on just the staunchion to keep it straight
and true. Landing gear also doesn't have to many side loads comparative to what
a bike goes through off road.

And if your spindle snaps on your car its not the best thing just having 3 other ones. Tire goes one way car the other. I know it happened to me.


As with the AP landing gear, a cars suspension is a lot more robust and is more
akin to the rear triangle of a bike (four bar). The spindle assembly is also far more
robust but they to do fail, especially on off road vehicles that are acutally taken
off road.

I'm not dissing on the leftys' engineering, just saying that that was a bad
comparison. I still think they look "wrong", and as I've said before, that is my
hang up.

[the flying moose]

I still think they look "wrong", and as I've said before, that is my hang up.

I don't know about you but when I ride my bike I am looking ahead at the trail not down at my fork. Once you start your ride you forget all about it and enjoy the ride. If I were to get an XC bike it would be a nice Cannondale with a Lefty.

[HIBuLlitT]

I don't actually ride my bike, it just sits in my living room and I look at it all day.

[Chuck D. Railer]

i'm working on R+D for a righty
not sure when it'll be out, but i'll keep youse posted

[HIBuLlitT]

i'm working on R+D for a righty
not sure when it'll be out, but i'll keep youse posted

Conservative G.W. Bush lover.

[XXX_er]

in europe there were lots of motorized scooters that would use a lefty on the front of the bike and a righty on the rear ,the big BMW and lots of exotic cafe racer type bikes use a 1 strut system for the rear and thats with all the power pulling that wheel to the drive side

so the problem is not the single strut design ... its not being able to handle 1 strut

[notasslowasu]

http://www.ram.mc/RC51/calafat/004.jpg

This does not look to safe!

[Chuck D. Railer]

Conservative G.W. Bush lover.

we're canadian, eh?!
that would be gordon campbell and steve harper
hahaha
i'd sooner have a lefty than either of these guys!

[josimar]

How sweet would a lefty be on this bike?

http://bb.nsmb.com/showthread.php?t=101844

You would end up with the ugliest bike ever known to man.

[HIBuLlitT]

we're canadian, eh?!
that would be gordon campbell and steve harper
hahaha
i'd sooner have a lefty than either of these guys!

I'd rather have a lefty than any of the above mentioned politicians.

[XXX_er]

http://www.nathancullen.ca/

nathan cullen is MP for the bulckley valley stikine , the NDP's enviromental critic and a great lefty