stans rims and going narrower

[HIBuLlitT]

I'm looking to loose rotational weight. I'm running a mag 30 in front and a arrow
dhx in back (heavy, I know). I'm a bit of a hack, and I can't seem to avoid big
rocks when I'm going fast. So, I also run fat tires...michi ata (32's really) 2.8.
They have a pretty narrow tread (about 2.6), but lots of volume.

I went for the rims I have because they are wide more than anything else. I
went for the tire because they were recommended to me, they worked better than
anything else I've used before (including the maxxi minions) so I went with them again.

So...I'm looking at the Stans rims. The ztr flow is only 22.6mm internal width though
so I would worry loosing that much volume and I found that the wider rims feel
more stable (less roll).

I've thought about going down one size on the tire to a 2.6.
Keep in mind, I weigh 190lb without clothes, and I go full storm trooper when
I ride (yes even when I have to pedal uphill in the summer).

What does the collective think?
What can I expect by loosing > .7mm width on my rim and .2 inches width on
my tire?
Is the weight loss going to make up for the loss in volume?

I do pedal up hill quite a bit, but I'd rather suffer pedaling if it means better traction
and stability pointing it downhill. I only pedal uphill so I can go downhill. My bike
could weigh 10lbs and I would still hate pedaling up.

[Timmigrant]

I run 2.5" tires all year round now. I find I get pretty good grip from any of the high end 2.5" DH tires. Michelin Comp 16, Maxxis Minion or Kenda Nevegal. The Nevegals have been my personal favorites as of late.

[ESHER SHORE]

we bring Stans into the UK, so have built alot of wheels and helped alot of riders do the conversion

Stans also make a Freeride rim, it is out of production whilst they switch factories but well worth checking out once its available again

we've got an Ellsworth Rogue built up here at the shop with Stan's FR rims and the wheelset is light yet crazy tough, and a good width for big tires

we lent the Rogue and a Devinci Hucker to ITV television's "The Bill" (Police show) a while back and they had stuntmen doing a cop->mugger chase on the 2 bikes, riding over and over again all day down a big set of concrete stairs

the stuntment were big guys, didn't know how to ride smooth yet the Stans FR wheelset on the Rogue came back without any damage ;)

[HIBuLlitT]

From Stan:

Hi,
I no longer make the FR rim. We have switched over to the Flow which is 22.59mm on the inside my FR was 25.87.



Stan
NoTubes.com
202 Daniel Zenker Dr
Big Flats, NY 14814
Tel(607)562-2877
Fax(607)562-2879
www.NoTubes.com

22.59mm seems pretty narrow?

[Bryce]

comp 32's are hard duro rubber, right? If so you might be able to go to 2.5 or so in a sticky tire without sacrificing grip. Also, I assume you're switching to tubeless - tubeless tires also have better traction with less rolling resistance.

Why the Stans rims? Just curious - I don't know much about them. If you just want something that is tubeless there's always mavic or the ghetto tubeless method.

[HIBuLlitT]

comp 32's are hard duro rubber, right? If so you might be able to go to 2.5 or so in a sticky tire without sacrificing grip. Also, I assume you're switching to tubeless - tubeless tires also have better traction with less rolling resistance.

Why the Stans rims? Just curious - I don't know much about them. If you just want something that is tubeless there's always mavic or the ghetto tubeless method.

The michi ata is a sticky (very) rubber. I am already running stans strips and
will never go back to tubes.

I'm considering mavics, but I do like the width of the mags and the arrow. The
729's aren't ust and the 823's are a bit narrow. I have looked at the wheel
thread, and the different manufacturers sites and I'm more confused than ever.

I liked the idea of the stans rims and how they're set up, makes sense to my non-engineer
mind.

[Timmigrant]

From what I understand the 823s are actually pretty porky. The rim weight advertised on the Mavic site does not include the aluminium spoke retainers that thread into the rim. When one considers those into the equation, the 823s are actually quite heavy. From what I've seen the best setup for light wheels (with low rotational weight) is a light and durable DH rim (Supra D, 721, MTX etc) with Stans Rim Strips and your favorite tire.

[connor]

From what I understand the 823s are actually pretty porky. The rim weight advertised on the Mavic site does not include the aluminium spoke retainers that thread into the rim. When one considers those into the equation, the 823s are actually quite heavy. From what I've seen the best setup for light wheels (with low rotational weight) is a light and durable DH rim (Supra D, 721, MTX etc) with Stans Rim Strips and your favorite tire.

Enns was running those Stan's rims at the Rat Race, they are crazy light. 420g for the FR ones. and you don't need a rim strip, you can just use their tape and sealant.

[Hack On Wheels]

Enns was running those Stan's rims at the Rat Race, they are crazy light. 420g for the FR ones. and you don't need a rim strip, you can just use their tape and sealant.

These?
http://www.notubes.com/product_info.php/cPath/679/products_id/344

[connor]

These?
http://www.notubes.com/product_info.php/cPath/679/products_id/344

I'm not sure if they're those ones or the older ones they stopped making, maybe 470g instead of 420, but that's still superlight. You'll have to ask him.