Boxxer World Cup

[raphy777]

Hey evereyone, I just recently purchesed a new 06 boxxer world cup, and I was told that they are pretty high maintenance (after all they are a race fork). Anyway, I was wondering what all you other BWC owners/enthusiests do to maintain them so they proform to there peak at all times. Also is it true that you should put a small amount if thin (air tool oil) oil in the fork before every ride? Thanks in advance for all your advice :).

[freakonaleash]

No oil on the fork EVERY ride. Just wipe down the stantions. The oil will get pressed into the fork eventually.

[NooNer]

No oil on the fork EVERY ride. Just wipe down the stantions. The oil will get pressed into the fork eventually.

as per typical ... wtf are you talking about?

[SkunkworkS]

as per typical ... wtf are you talking about?

Dude, he works in a shop. Why are you questioning him?

GEEZ.

[rowdy01]

I just give`em a good wipe and dab a few drops of oil on the seals after every ride. This combined with routine maintinence should help provide years of good service. They won`t be nearly as finicky as you may have heard. I don`t see how the oil contaminating the forks should be a problem as you`ll change that oil atleast twice a year anyhow.

[schoenrock]

Dude, he works in a shop. Why are you questioning him?

GEEZ.

he's researching a carrer for "working in shops". he needs to know the pro's reasoning on those troubleshooting tips,.

GEEZ

[SkunkworkS]

OMG. You must eat a lot of vejtubls cause you're so smart.

SMRT!

[schoenrock]

its "vegtubls" you dumeehed

[SkunkworkS]

so slurry

[raphy777]

u Gies can tak yor fauoil langwige:" an suv it up somwear! But thanks for the advice rowdy01. But what kind if oil should I use? And feak, what the hell are you talking about?!?!?!?!??!?!!??

[Midas]

just stay on top of what your air pressure is.

[freakonaleash]

Dude, he works in a shop. Why are you questioning him?

GEEZ.

Not anymore.

"raphy" why did you refer to me as freak, i talk to you everyday :lol:

Oh BTw, what was stupid about what i said :S

[SkunkworkS]

Not anymore.

That was quick...

Oh BTw, what was stupid about what i said :S

If you have to ask that question, then you obviously should've thought twice before clicking the 'post' button.

Have a good day.

[freakonaleash]

If you have to ask that question, then you obviously should've thought twice before clicking the 'post' button.

Have a good day.

You still havent answered my question

EDIT: Regarding your that was quick statement... well... read the forums and you might get some hints...

[Hack On Wheels]

No oil on the fork EVERY ride. Just wipe down the stantions. The oil will get pressed into the fork eventually.

Ok, well you wanted someone to address this, so I'll take a shot.
First, you say no oil on the fork every ride, but do not say why, or offer an alternative. Second, I do not see the connection between wiping down the stanchions and oil getting pressed into the fork. Not to mention, what does oil getting "pressed" into the fork have to do with anything?

[SkunkworkS]

EDIT: Regarding your that was quick statement... well... read the forums and you might get some hints...

When people say, "No one gives a shit."

That includes me too.

[freakonaleash]

Ok, well you wanted someone to address this, so I'll take a shot.
First, you say no oil on the fork every ride, but do not say why, or offer an alternative. Second, I do not see the connection between wiping down the stanchions and oil getting pressed into the fork. Not to mention, what does oil getting "pressed" into the fork have to do with anything?


Wasnt trying to make a connection. I was saying that you dont have to oil the fork every ride, like oil it every second or third, and the times that you dont oil it, wipe down the stantions with a cloth or something to get the dirt off.

[freakonaleash]

When people say, "No one gives a shit."

That includes me too.

Seems like you do care though.. your the one who brought it up by saying that was quick

[rowdy01]

u Gies can tak yor fauoil langwige:" an suv it up somwear! But thanks for the advice rowdy01. But what kind if oil should I use? And feak, what the hell are you talking about?!?!?!?!??!?!!??

keep in mind that my fork is a 05 model -not air, but i was recomended to use a quality oil that contained teflon. I use Tri-Flow. When i mentioned the possibility of oil contamination to the Sram mechanics during Crankworx, they said no worries. If you`re still a little concerned about it, just dab a little of the same type of oil that`s in your forks right now.

[ESHER SHORE]

just wash or wipe down the stanchions with a soft cloth

wouldn't bother using any kind of oil on the stanchions...it will just build up on top of the wiper seals and attract dirt, which can then scratch the stanchions

[seand]

Wasnt trying to make a connection. I was saying that you dont have to oil the fork every ride, like oil it every second or third, and the times that you dont oil it, wipe down the stantions with a cloth or something to get the dirt off.

Are you suggesting changing the fork oil ever couple rides? Sometimes I have issues deciphering what it is you mean :)



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Anyways...as stated above, stay aware of your air pressure. It was recommended to me (I asked quite a few questions when diving into the world of the boxxer wc) to swap the oil out mid summer and again at the end.

Rowdy's suggestion about the oil is a good one.

Aside from that, thus far I haven't had any super demanding things to worry about.

Oh, and learn the maxle, it's quite a neat solution to pinch bolts! You don't want to be on a trail trying to figure out how to get your wheel off.

[freakonaleash]

Are you suggesting changing the fork oil ever couple rides? Sometimes I have issues deciphering what it is you mean :)



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Anyways...as stated above, stay aware of your air pressure. It was recommended to me (I asked quite a few questions when diving into the world of the boxxer wc) to swap the oil out mid summer and again at the end.

Rowdy's suggestion about the oil is a good one.

Aside from that, thus far I haven't had any super demanding things to worry about.

Oh, and learn the maxle, it's quite a neat solution to pinch bolts! You don't want to be on a trail trying to figure out how to get your wheel off.


:lol: Yah ! No. I was suggesting putting oil on the seals.. waht am i the devinci code or something ?

[raphy777]

I whent into the bike shop and asked the mechanic about how to maintain the fork seeing as I didn't get a manuel with it, and he said to use the oil thats in the fork to condition the seals (he said to use a high quality teflon oil like what rowdy01 uses) ans to look on the sram website for the manuel maintanence intervols. Thanks for all your help guys!

[James_315]

I've got the Rock Shox manual right here, for all their dual crown forks you should:

"Clean dirt and debris from upper tubes"
"Inspect upper tubes for scratches"
and
"Lubricate dust seals/tubes"

All after every ride.

Take it or leave it, but when I see maintenance instructions from the people that make a product I feel like they'd know best how to keep that product functioning best. As for what that lubricant should be I don't think you can go wrong with the fork oil that's in the forks....

[roasterthetoaster]

:lol: Yah ! No. I was suggesting putting oil on the seals.. waht am i the devinci code or something ?

Just read and reread your posts before you post them. Then there won't be as many problems. Your first post was impossible to understand. :beer:

[freakonaleash]

Just read and reread your posts before you post them. Then there won't be as many problems. Your first post was impossible to understand. :beer:

I understood it :lol:

[roasterthetoaster]

Fair enough.

[Wayne P]

Yes you have to keep the seals and wipers wet. This should be common sense right? The oil on the stanchions are to not only lube the wipers, but lift the dirt out from inside the wipers. You should also be prying them out when your fork is new and putting a little bit of waterproof grease in there. Do that several times a year.

One tip I picked up from my dirtbiking buddies is to take a goggle tear-off (or other really thin bit of plastic) and work that under your wipers and seals to get the dirt out. Makes your seals last a lot longer.

[big-ted]

In addition to what others have said, it's a good idea to run a small amount (like 5ml) of light oil in the air spring too, to keep the o-rings from drying out. This need only be replenished every 25 hours or so of riding.

[Cammm]

dont huck it the lowers will crack

[Hack On Wheels]

In addition to what others have said, it's a good idea to run a small amount (like 5ml) of light oil in the air spring too, to keep the o-rings from drying out. This need only be replenished every 25 hours or so of riding.

This is what I thought. I even felt good for getting around to do that a while back... then first time riding my bike in months the fork committed suicide. I think the air cart leaked into the lowers and blew my seal off. Kinda weird...
If you own a Boxxer World Cup, do yourself a favour and maintain it at least as much as they recommend. It might save you from missing out on rides in the future.

Edit: Now that I think about it, with this, the motion control cartridge leaking, and the Maxle issue, I think that my Boxxer enjoys causing me mental anguish. Pretty wizard fork the rest of the time though.

[SkunkworkS]

OMG, sounds like a Totem. :P

[Hack On Wheels]

OMG, sounds like a Totem. :P

Yeah, basically they are all like emo teenagers. They want more attention so they inflict pain on themselves.

[dreads]

just rebuild your fork after every couple of rides
rebuild it more often in muddy conditions especially at whistler when its muddy
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and why does everybody hate totems
they feel the best and it takes like 20 minutes to rebuild them. you knew it was a high performance fork when you got it what did you think it was a marzochi?

[Hack On Wheels]

just rebuild your fork after every couple of rides
rebuild it more often in muddy conditions especially at whistler when its muddy
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and why does everybody hate totems
they feel the best and it takes like 20 minutes to rebuild them. you knew it was a high performance fork when you got it what did you think it was a marzochi?

They actually recommend rebuilding every 25 hours. [From the Boxxer 06 Manual] 8 hour rides would be slightly tiring. I sure hope Rock Shox forks can survive more than a few rides without needing a rebuild.

Totems? Let me think... seizing, creaking, travel loss (2-step), leaking/oozing, etc. They had severe quality control issues and didn't seem to want to own up to it, hence all this BS about how owners should be overhauling them pretty much halfway through every ride and that if they don't then too bad for them.
Last time I checked, high performance was not synonymous for low tolerances and high maintenance.
"High performance" (and don't forget "race specific") seems to be an excuse for cranking out product with durability issues that would otherwise be good stuff.

[DaveM]

and why does everybody hate totems
they feel the best and it takes like 20 minutes to rebuild them. you knew it was a high performance fork when you got it what did you think it was a marzochi?

My 66 ata feels better than my Totem 2step....and it works....and I'll likely service it next year.

[J-Kwon]

I understood it :lol:

then i guess you're impossible.:)

[dreads]

what do you think world cup racers do with their forks... they use boxxer world cups and they get them rebuilt all the time. if you rebuild it regulary they act just like other forks. sometimes stuff goes wrong but a lot of forks have that happen. and you have to rebuild them because to make them lighter they use less oil than other forks. marzochi uses at least twice as much oil so you dont have to do anytihng to them but they are heavier