going from 20D to 5D

[wgchase]

has anyone here made the jump? I'm thinking about adding a couple 5D's to my bag. Thoughts and opinions about this camera wanted(if you own a 5D)

[mzphoto]

thought about doing the same thing, wish the 5Ds had better sync speed, so its kida holding me back

[trail star]

the 5d has still arguably one of the best sensors Canon produce. The high-iso performance is stunning.

Its a fast camera to sjppt with, but the low-sync speed is a bit of a let down.

I don't own one, but i've used one as an assistant at weddings.

[the flying moose]

dont upgrade your camera just get like 50 pocketwizards.

[Faithless]

I've heard of a better colour gamut and better focusing because of the "hidden" focus points. Personally If you were shooting weddings, I'd do it, but would avoid it if you use alot of wide angles.

[trail star]

wait, avoid going full frame? Because of a wide angle? lmfao

worst argument ever.

the 5d is sick, do it..

[Faithless]

wait, avoid going full frame? Because of a wide angle? lmfao

worst argument ever.

the 5d is sick, do it..


Unless you like light falloff.

[Faithless]

http://photography-on-the.net/forum/showpost.php?p=2604502&postcount=15

[jbazett]

The only time the Vignetting problem presents itself is with Wide angles with large apertures, It's the exact same with a film camera. It's par for the course. Without shooting full-frame you can never truly appreciate great lenses. The quality difference between a Pro-lens and a consumer Lens is gigantic on a full-frame. Totally worth it, Though you may want to wait until the 5dmkII comes out, It's just a here say ATM but may be worth wait a couple months.

[PhotoFyffer]

if u are serious about weddings 5d is great, faithless do some research, the point of full frame is so u can have a true wide angle lense, and better DOF. if u want great glass u got to pay, cz21mm best there is for wide angle. at 7000us I would hope so too. The 5d is great, iso is amazing and the files just seem to pop. U will be happy with the new camera for sure.

[wgchase]

I went for them this am. 2 5D's with grips and a 24-70 2.8 will be here tomorrow.:fruit:

[jbazett]

I went for them this am. 2 5D's with grips and a 24-70 2.8 will be here tomorrow.:fruit:Totally jealous. I've got a 24-70 it never leaves my film body, Best-Lens-Ever...... Not quite but you get my drift.:fruit:

[PhotoFyffer]

nice two 5d's nice set up, I love the 24-70. will pick one up I hope sooner then later.

[trail star]

the grip for the 5d is just a screw-add on. I usually hate those, as they really don't "work" for the camera.

but damn, the 5d's vertical grip is good!

I'm really Jealous!

Did you go Canon 24-70 L or Sigma?

[wgchase]

canon!

[wgchase]

well I'm a little lighter in the bank account, but am totally happy so far.

nothing fancy but test shots from the first few minutes of new cameras

This is shot at 3200!

http://www.derekandsara.com/photos/april2007/clothes.jpg


It handles different light a lot better than the 20D. The office

http://www.derekandsara.com/photos/april2007/desky.jpg


A little vignetting, but I don't mind a bit.

http://www.derekandsara.com/photos/april2007/housey.jpg

[jbazett]

Looks good Derek. Anyone have an example of a Nikon shot at 3200? Shall we compare? LOL

[the Master Plan Dan]

I like the fact that you are looking at the picture that is in computer!

[Hack On Wheels]

Shot at 3200? Holy frick! I want your camera... so hand it over, eh?

[.243racer]

Unless you like light falloff.

oh em gee.

do you actually use cameras?

or just read what the pixel peepers say on the internet?

[Faithless]

oh em gee.

do you actually use cameras?

or just read what the pixel peepers say on the internet?

some people dont like vignetting.

Why don't you pick apart my other 2 posts?

[JSinclair]

Nice job Derek. Feel a 7 grand lighter now? :lol: worth it though your cameras make you money.

Just curious. Why didn;t you go 1 5D and 1 MKIIN ?

[jbazett]

some people dont like vignetting.


The Vignetting has a lot more to do with the lens than the camera homie. All you have to do is stop down a step or two and voila. Same as shooting a film camera. Not to mention that there is a thousand programs out there specifically for removing vignetting. Guess what? The 1DSmkII has the same "Problem" Par for the course.

[StuKen]

Looks good Derek. Anyone have an example of a Nikon shot at 3200? Shall we compare? LOL

I would, but the same type of shot at 3200 on my D200 would look like a fucking mosaic compared to that.

Edit, Majin strikes again!

[wgchase]

Nice job Derek. Feel a 7 grand lighter now? :lol: worth it though your cameras make you money.

Just curious. Why didn;t you go 1 5D and 1 MKIIN ?


yeah it was a bit of a hit on the old savings! However, I already got a wedding booked out of it after posting some of the new photos on myspace so I'm almost halfway there :)

Mosty because the MK2 would be total overkill for what i need. I don't need burst speed or that heavy/protected of a camera. The files on the 5D will print to sizes that most brides will probably never even consider and the 5D files are really fantastic. It's a shame to make these files smaller for the nette- they are just beautiful full size.

[D1r7 R0(k]

sickkk! I love the higher-end canon SLR's.

[Mr. Charles]

I went for them this am. 2 5D's with grips and a 24-70 2.8 will be here tomorrow.:fruit:

why buy two? i don't get it. all i can think is that you don't have the time to change lenses and you think carrying two cameras around is a sensible solution.

[StuKen]

why buy two? i don't get it. all i can think is that you don't have the time to change lenses and you think carrying two cameras around is a sensible solution.


Yeah, it's not like a camera body could break while shooting a wedding or anything. The wedding gods with save the camera, and protect it from harm. There will never again be the need for a second, back up, body! Wedding photographers rejoice!

[Mr. Charles]

Yeah, it's not like a camera body could break while shooting a wedding or anything. The wedding gods with save the camera, and protect it from harm. There will never again be the need for a second, back up, body! Wedding photographers rejoice!

you're very funny. he already has a back up. it's a 20d. whatever dude. i was just wondering. keep being a funny guy.

my buddy shoots concerts, and he carries two cams for the exact reason i stated.

anyway. 5d is nice. super nice.

[.243racer]

I was on a photo shoot yesterday with the premier and used a 1ds mk2 and an 85mm 1.2L.

that was fun.

[trail star]

I was on a photo shoot yesterday with the premier and used a 1ds mk2 and an 85mm 1.2L.

that was fun.

i swear that lens lies about shutter speeds... i mean at 1.2 i've shot at like 1/60th in almost pitch black. I bet it has a mini flash and it doesn't tell you or something.

I reckon a nice sports combo would be the 1d mkIII with iso6400 and the 1.3crop on the 85/1.2!

[Mr. Charles]

I was on a photo shoot yesterday with the premier and used a 1ds mk2 and an 85mm 1.2L.

that was fun.


what were you taking photos of?

[PhotoFyffer]

851.2 not that great for sports, as it focuses slow, the 85 1.8 is better for sports in that sense. The 85 1.2 is amazing for weddings and portraits.

[Mr. Charles]

851.2 not that great for sports, as it focuses slow, the 85 1.8 is better for sports in that sense. The 85 1.2 is amazing for weddings and portraits.


i've never tried it, but I would think with that DOF you are gonna have a hard time shooting anything that's moving. It's hard enough at 1.4/1.8. One helluve fast servo focus i guess. i don't know. never tried it.

[.243racer]

what were you taking photos of?

The Premier of British Columbia. It was part of a promotional campaign for the Vancouver Giants and the upcoming Memorial Cup.

the 85 1.2 is suuuper slow to focus. your subject has to be still if you are shooting wide open

[Faithless]

digital sensors and film the same?

[.243racer]

digital sensors and film the same?

no?

your point is?

[Faithless]

no?

your point is?

http://www.cleanimages.com/DDBlog-ShouldNikonMakeA35mmSizedSensor.asp

This is why alot of people chose a d2x over a 5d.

[.243racer]

http://www.cleanimages.com/DDBlog-ShouldNikonMakeA35mmSizedSensor.asp

This is why alot of people chose a d2x over a 5d.

like who? clearly an article written by a nikon user.

and the points he highlights are exactly why "a lot of people" choose a 5d over anything else.

[burn it to keep warm]

Unless you like light falloff.

thats a non - issue, something people with too much time to spare just happened to make into a big issue recently

no one really complained about it over the past 60 years, its not something you really notice unless you look for it.

[Faithless]

thats a non - issue, something people with too much time to spare just happened to make into a big issue recently

no one really complained about it over the past 60 years, its not something you really notice unless you look for it.

It's a bit diffrent for digital vs film. I'm not complaining though, Personally I would choose a 5d for weddings, as opposed to a 20d. But If I were to shoot in a studio, id need something with a fast shutter sync such as a 30d or a 1dmkII

[JSinclair]

It's a bit diffrent for digital vs film. I'm not complaining though, Personally I would choose a 5d for weddings, as opposed to a 20d. But If I were to shoot in a studio, id need something with a fast shutter sync such as a 30d or a 1dmkII
There would be very little difference in the studio between 1/200 and 1/250 when using flashes. You'll drop your shutter speed for Apperture to get DOF. Shooting sports with flash I can see there being a difference.

Derek, I was just curious. Glad you like the camera, it's definitly putting out great shots. I envy the low light ISO ability. The mkII isn't the worlds least noisy camera at 800+ ISO, but the mashine gun like sound when I am fireing 8.5 FPS is pretty cool. Makes people stare... :lol:

[wgchase]

why buy two? i don't get it. all i can think is that you don't have the time to change lenses and you think carrying two cameras around is a sensible solution.

Changing lenses when stuff is happening every second is a real drag :) The 20D's are my backups now. I'm thinking about selling the 20D's and just buying one more 5D. I'm having a hard time doing it though, because they are great cameras, and I probably won't get out of them what they are worth...

[wgchase]

20D's are up for sale

http://buysell.nsmb.com/showproduct.php?product=8773

[jbazett]

20D's are up for sale

http://buysell.nsmb.com/showproduct.php?product=8773How many actuations on each??

[wgchase]

How many actuations on each??

I don't have any idea- is there a way to tell?

[jbazett]

I don't have any idea- is there a way to tell?
When you look at the numbering system on your cards, What are the folders labeled? (121 = 12100)

[PhotoFyffer]

not true, on a non 1 series body, u can not tell enless u send it to canon. As soon as u reformate the card it starts again. On one series bodies u can use cancount.

[jbazett]

not true, on a non 1 series body, u can not tell unless u send it to canon. As soon as u re-format the card it starts again. On one series bodies u can use can count.I don't need to know 'to the frame' how many shots have been taken, Ball park is good. And FYI the numbering doesn't reset every time you format the card, it resets when you enter into the menu and tell the camera's numbering system to reset. Unless he has specifically used that command, while the numbering may not be accurate to the frame, It can give you a ball park figure of how many actuations are on the shutter :rolleyes: