First shots with new lens.....

[jbazett]

Got my new 24-70mm f2.8 L in the mail today, Went out with Ferg this afternoon for a quick shoot to break er in.....

1)Hip @ Lerwick
http://www.photodump.com/direct/jbazett/IMG_0871A.jpg

2) Road Gap, One slave to camera left.
http://www.photodump.com/direct/jbazett/IMG_0891b.jpg

3) Side shot for scale, Blew out the sky, Used highlight recovery in Bibble Pro, Made some of the trees look posterized so I de-saturated it a bit, Just an experiment...
http://www.photodump.com/direct/jbazett/IMG_9353A.jpg

[StuKen]

You underexposed the sky in number two a little bit.

[Geologyboy]

Nice, congrats on the new lens.

[Faithless]

You can really see the detail in 2. It's a great lens. I shot with my 24-70 (sigma) yesterday, and I love it. Most of my shots were shot at f/4 with a 1/60 second shutter. I don't know why my camera kept metering like that. I later found out it was because my flash power was set to -2! Doh!

[.243racer]

You can really see the detail in 2. It's a great lens.

Most of my shots were shot at f/4 with a 1/60 second shutter. I don't know why my camera kept metering like that. I later found out it was because my flash power was set to -2! Doh!

:lol: dude, its like 500 pixels and 72dpi... how the F is it going to give you an inclination of detail...

and your logic about your camera settings baffles me.

[Faithless]

You're oblivious.

[JSinclair]

You can really see the detail in 2. It's a great lens. I shot with my 24-70 (sigma) yesterday, and I love it. Most of my shots were shot at f/4 with a 1/60 second shutter. I don't know why my camera kept metering like that. I later found out it was because my flash power was set to -2! Doh!

??

Were you set to a priority mode? Why not change the ISO if you wanted a different Shutter/ Aperture combo ?

Flash power or Exposure coompensation on your flash?

I'm confused as well.

I Do agree that the 24-70 2.8 L is an aweosme lens though.

Those shots however don't really showcase what it can do...but a good start anyway, I'm sure better ones are on the way.

[jbazett]

Those shots however don't really showcase what it can do...but a good start anyway, I'm sure better ones are on the way.

Yeah, We only had half an hour to get in get the shots and get out it was a rush job. Can't wait to let it stretch it's legs a bit more.

[.243racer]

You're oblivious.

You are in denial. :agree:

[RideCraft]

Cool shots, the area in the first one looks like a fun place to session.

[Faithless]

??

Were you set to a priority mode? Why not change the ISO if you wanted a different Shutter/ Aperture combo ?

Flash power or Exposure coompensation on your flash?

I'm confused as well.

I Do agree that the 24-70 2.8 L is an aweosme lens though.

Those shots however don't really showcase what it can do...but a good start anyway, I'm sure better ones are on the way.

I did. I changed it to iso 800 and the camera kept saying 1/60th, 4.6. The flash power was set to -2, but I fixed it later. Shots still worked. Had no idea why it would change though.

[JSinclair]

Yeah, We only had half an hour to get in get the shots and get out it was a rush job. Can't wait to let it stretch it's legs a bit more.


I don't blame you, the lens is awesome and it is such a great range for mountain biking. I think I am going to pick one up in the near future, good for weddings and portraits.

[Troup]

The last 2 are sick, definitely a weird stance he has though...

[Chunk]

The last 2 are sick, definitely a weird stance he has though...

haha!! yea, in the 3rd one it kind of looks like hes just takin' a peek over the bars to see whats up with the landing :lol:

[PhotoFyffer]

congrats on the new glass, Now u need some strobes. Some fill flash would help alot with some of the loss detail in highlights. But happy shooting. If u are in van ever send me a pm we should go shoot.

[cove_boy]

cool

[coverider]

Andrizzle, Flash power does not come in whole numbers- that's FEC. Flash power is set in fractions in intervals of 1/3(usually).

[jbazett]

Andrizzle, Flash power does not come in whole numbers- that's FEC. Flash power is set in fractions in intervals of 1/3(usually).
In majin's defense (Weird) what happens when you adjust the flash power by 1/3 tree times?? Hmmmm 1/3 x 3..... Thats a whole number dude.

[coverider]

When you adjust it 3 times, it goes to the next fraction, which happens to be twice the previous denominator. IE: the highest output is 1/1, then it goes 1/1+0.3 then 1/1+0.7, then 1/2, then 1/2+0.3 then 1/2+0.7, etc,etc,etc. Hopefully that makes sense to you.

[jbazett]

When you adjust it 3 times, it goes to the next fraction, which happens to be twice the previous denominator. IE: the highest output is 1/1, then it goes 1/1+0.3 then 1/1+0.7, then 1/2, then 1/2+0.3 then 1/2+0.7, etc,etc,etc. Hopefully that makes sense to you.

Actually it goes 1/1 + 1/3 (0.333) = 1.3/1 and so on, 1/1 + (3x1/3) = 2 You're not converting your fractions properly. Convert your Fractions to decimals first.

[D1r7 R0(k]

Actually it goes 1/1 + 1/3 (0.333) = 1.3/1 and so on, 1/1 + (3x1/3) = 2 You're not converting your fractions properly. Convert your Fractions to decimals first.
i thnk your worng....you forget that they are negative stops.

1/1, 1/2, 1/4, 1/8, 1/16, 1/32, 1/64, 1/128, with -1/3 stops between each output. =

1/1, 1/2, 1/2 -1/3, 1/2 -2/3, 1/4, 1/4 -1/3, 1/4 -2/3 ect.

positive stops would be used if your going back up the list.

[Faithless]

You can also change the incremets to half btw in your settings... regardless. it was -2

[jbazett]

i thnk your worng....you forget that they are negative stops.

1/1, 1/2, 1/4, 1/8, 1/16, 1/32, 1/64, 1/128, with -1/3 stops between each output. =

1/1, 1/2, 1/2 -1/3, 1/2 -2/3, 1/4, 1/4 -1/3, 1/4 -2/3 ect.

positive stops would be used if your going back up the list.
You're wrong too bud, Convert your fractions into decimals. 1/3 = 0.333 You would just get negative whole numbers. -2 _ -1.666 _ -1.333 _ -1 _ -.666 _ -.333 _ 0 _ .333 _ .666 _ 1 .....etc

[jbazett]

You can also change the incremets to half btw in your settings... regardless. it was -2

Don't worry about it man, You didn't say anything wrong, It's justs guys trying to pick apart everything that you say, you're right in this situation, own it.

[JSinclair]

Coverider is right as far as the Canon Flash setting go in "Normal" setup. Andreas is right that you can change the stops from 1/3 to 1/2 as well.

The -2 is exposure compensation not flash output (Although it probably affects the flash output).

Excerpt from an article -- "Exposure compensation or exposure correction (EC) controls provide an easy way to bias an exposure by 2-3 full stops up or down from the camera's metered aperture and shutter speed, usually in 1/2- to 1/3-stop increments. EC is particularly useful for manual bracketing and for overriding the camera's exposure theory in priority modes, where EC adjusts only the exposure setting left to the camera's control. In auto or program mode, EC again allows intentional under- or overexpose relative to the firmware's exposure strategy, but I have yet to figure out how the bias gets apportioned between aperture and shutter speed in auto mode."

The other possibility is EV. EV is a bit more complicated in the real world but in thoery is a solid comcept easy to grasp. EV is a math formula that allows you to change the Aperture and Shutter settings to get the same exposure for different priorities. Ie you could shoot F2.0 at 1/500 or F5.6 at 1/60 to get the same exposure. (Theory of Reciprocity). EV basically gives you a Number to work with. So the EV for both of the above would be the same (EV 11).

Like I said easy to grasp, but kinda compicated to figure out in the real world without a chart.

I understant that a lot of PAS camers use EV and a lot of camera from Europe do as well.

My thought though is that your -2 was Exposure compensation and thus you underexposed the images 2 stops. In priority modes the exposure compensation is on the back wheel of the D20 and it is VERY easy to move the wheel when you are fumbleing around in the dirt trying to get your next shot.

Gotta make sure you are not compesating or all your shit will be dark. That being said What My light meter and what my camera meter tell me are two very different things...my lightmeter is always bang on for exposures. My camera always seems dark.

Dark though is easy to recover, blown out is gone.

[Faithless]

I'm thinking of buying a cheap light meter on ebay, but I should stop turning the "on" dial all the way to the point where it makes the ev dial active... It will probably save me the headache :P

But for the 20d, the thing that was at -2 was the button next to "drive/iso" which i guess is flash output.