norco bikes

[slang]

how do i get in contact with norco? they don't have a single phone number or email on their site.

if anyone could help me out, an email address would be prefered.

thanks
-david

[Bryce]

1465 Kebet Way,
Port Coquitlam, BC V3C 6L3
Tel. : 604-552-2930

yellow pages

[freakonaleash]

Is it about something wrong with your frame or something ? If so, maybe you can take it down to the factory to get it checked out. Its by CANAM that movie prop place.

[Teen Idol]

More importantly, it's by hazel bowl

[Towel Boy]

so today me and ian went and picked up some parts from norcos secret east van lair on commmercial and charles it was a rad excursion and we ended up down by kiddie strole for a bit pretty sweet eh , so david why don't you just ask ian for a phone number

[Vapor]

Looking at picking up either a Norco Torrent or a Cove Stiffee (new).
What shop is going to give me the best deal on the Norco?
What are my chances of finding a new 05 Stiffee and what do you think the damage will be?

Been riding a Trek 8000 for six years and it's time to get something a little more suited to free riding. I'm getting tired of launching over my handle bars. But tht says more about how I ride then what I ride I guess......

While I'm here. I love riding the local trails. Looking for a trail or two that's not overly technical, and a little more open (less trees). Any ideas?

thanks :agree:

[Neo]

Looking at picking up either a Norco Torrent or a Cove Stiffee (new).
What shop is going to give me the best deal on the Norco?
What are my chances of finding a new 05 Stiffee and what do you think the damage will be?

Been riding a Trek 8000 for six years and it's time to get something a little more suited to free riding. I'm getting tired of launching over my handle bars. But tht says more about how I ride then what I ride I guess......

While I'm here. I love riding the local trails. Looking for a trail or two that's not overly technical, and a little more open (less trees). Any ideas?

thanks :agree:

just out of curiosity - why are you set on the torrent or stiffee?

what local trails have you ridden? tell us what you have ridden then we can point in you in another direction more suited to what you want.

[Vapor]

Neo,

I've been spending most of my riding time in the Woodlot. The only place I haven't been to is the North Shore. It's a bit of a trip but I do plan on riding there maybe once or twice a month.

I have no desire to take on any of the larger drops or stunts as I'm getting older and my bones are getting brittle... I love the single track stuff as well as DH, as long as it's not too hairy (4ft+ drops, vertical rock faces).

I can pretty much pedal a bike without falling off, and want a bike that once I'm at a riding level I'm happy with, I won't have to get another bike.
Price is going to be one of the big factors, I'm not apposed to spenidng a little cash on a decent bike I'm going to have for a few years, but I can't break the bank.

I'm looking at the Stiffe and the Torrent as they appear to have decent componets and are good bikes from the reviews I've read. They also have the type of frame I'm interested in. I've looked at Knolly and the Banshee Scirroco as well. I've yet to actually walk into a bike shop and have a look at these bikes it's been internet investigation only. I know there is no perfect bike out there, and I'm not interested in putting together a frankenbike.....I just want to plug and play.

If it matters I'm 5'8 180lbs.....

thanks, and any help is very appreciated there's so much info out there and I
don't want to regret my bike purchase....

[SysCo.]

those are two pretty random decisions...

norco torrent, china man huck sled,
cove stiffee, thought out design.

[Vapor]

Sysco

Well I thought they weren't random choices. I'm not a big fan of pushing a bike up hill, I'd rather ride it up. I know the Stiffee is lighter. Remember...Newb here. What makes the norco a hucker?
I guess ur vote goes to the Stiffee.

Still looking for a good bike shop, and are they still selling 05 stiffies....

thxs

[SysCo.]

hey vapour, with the new shocks there coming out with these days, if you dont mind an extra pound (literally) you can ride them, just as easily as hardtail up hill examples include propedal and lockouts.

as far as hardtails go.
most people i know with stiffees build them with 5 or maximum 6" forks.
as for norcos they build them with 7" forks ..
i could be wrong, but if you can afford the cove jump on it.
norcos just a cheaper poorlier designed bike,
as far as parts go cove can outfit them with whatever you need.
you'll pay more, but itll be worth it in the long run.
if your looking for a burlier ride, better designed bike then a norco, and feel the cove might be to much, check out brodie bikes.

call up cove shop, ask them if they have a hustler in your size and take that for a spin
it sounds like a somewhat ideal bike for you.
(they'll let you test it on the shore)

[Vapor]

Thxs, I'll look into the Hustler.
Not really looking for a burlier ride. I don't plan on punishing the bike or myself.

Like I mentioned I don't mind putting down a few bucks on a decent bike I'll have for a few years, so a Cove is on the radar.

So if I go with the Cove. 5" forks. Avid or Hayes disks. Shimano shifters, that's what I'm using now and I like them. 2.5 for rubber?




thxs

[marzoccinator]

Shimano shifters, that's what I'm using now and I like them

Trust me if you go sram you'll never want shitmano again. way way better. take a ride out on a bike with sram and see for yourself.

[toy4-jay]

Trust me if you go sram you'll never want shitmano again. way way better. take a ride out on a bike with sram and see for yourself.
no matter how true it is, calling shimano "shitmano" just isn't funny or clever...
in my opinion.

[Vapor]

Sounds good, I'll also have a look at the Sram then.
I appreciate the input. It's info overload trying to figure out whats what and whats good.

What would be a great fork to run. Again, looking at a mid range fork that's idiot proof and won't require a lot of maintenance and is easily adjustable (am i asking too much).

If I go with a Cove is it going to come in around 2k?

thxs.....off to the Woodlot today.....hot hot hot

[corey@nsmb.com]

hey vapour, with the new shocks there coming out with these days, if you dont mind an extra pound (literally) you can ride them, just as easily as hardtail up hill examples include propedal and lockouts.

as far as hardtails go.
most people i know with stiffees build them with 5 or maximum 6" forks.
as for norcos they build them with 7" forks ..
i could be wrong, but if you can afford the cove jump on it.
norcos just a cheaper poorlier designed bike,
as far as parts go cove can outfit them with whatever you need.
you'll pay more, but itll be worth it in the long run.
if your looking for a burlier ride, better designed bike then a norco, and feel the cove might be to much, check out brodie bikes.

call up cove shop, ask them if they have a hustler in your size and take that for a spin
it sounds like a somewhat ideal bike for you.
(they'll let you test it on the shore)


Can you explain what makes the Cove a better designed bike? What makes the Norco a poorly designed bike? What about it isn't good? What makes the Cove bike better (aside from it having a cool looking skull logo on it)? Give the guy some facts and not just your opinion, because your opinion reads as pretty biased and ill informed. If you are going to drop comments like you did, you need to back them up if you don't want to be blown off and not taken seriously.

As a guy who is pretty deep into bikes and gear, I'd love to see you expand on this. :)

[Neo]

well that's easy, one says 'norco' on it and the other says 'cove'. sheesh c'mon corey.

[Wayne P]

Yes Sysco, where do you come up with this stuff???

Vapour, for the record, a bike made overseas that's apparently "not well thought out" will often ride as good or better than any high end hand made frame. Listen to people with experience.

[marzoccinator]

What would be a great fork to run. Again, looking at a mid range fork that's idiot proof and won't require a lot of maintenance and is easily adjustable (am i asking too much).
For a good fork thats idiot proof and low maintenence i would go for a marzochhi....for what your looking to ride, maybe an 05 Z1 freeride 1....but it all depends on what travel your looking for. If you look around, find something good value and try get a test ride on it, thats the best way to find out if a certain fork is right for you.

[Neo]

vapour, you should seriously consider getting a mid-travel dually - you can get decent second hand deals out there in the buy and sell. i'm older too and i switched to a dually for this year after spending most of my life riding hardtails and my body loves me for it.

[smoochy]

in case anyone were to ask...

http://bb.nsmb.com/showthread.php?t=74740&highlight=2006+norco+torrent

[M@M]

Can you explain what makes the Cove a better designed bike? What makes the Norco a poorly designed bike? What about it isn't good? What makes the Cove bike better (aside from it having a cool looking skull logo on it)? Give the guy some facts and not just your opinion, because your opinion reads as pretty biased and ill informed. If you are going to drop comments like you did, you need to back them up if you don't want to be blown off and not taken seriously.

As a guy who is pretty deep into bikes and gear, I'd love to see you expand on this. :)
couldnt have said it better myself.

[schoenrock]

coves win races, norco on the other hand....:lol:
don't know what it is but i still hate 'em, kinda like the same simple reason why i dont like relish and that is because i just dont like it.

[XXX_er]

coves win races, norco on the other hand....:lol:
don't know what it is but i still hate 'em, kinda like the same simple reason why i dont like relish and that is because i just dont like it.


maybe cuz Tyler Morland rides cove (half the team is from PG...PG represents !)I know this is a stretch but could it possibly be the rider ?


I ain't crazy about norco but anyone will tell you I hate Rocky way more ,I like relish ,I hate the cheap mustard (excuse me but do you have any grey poupon?)I like women with red/blonde/brown or black hair and long walks on the beach

so my point is try everything and make up yer own mind cuz opinions are like assholes around here ... everybody has one

[Jaysin]

maybe cuz Tyler Morland rides cove (half the team is from PG...PG represents !)I know this is a stretch but could it possibly be the rider ?


I ain't crazy about norco but anyone will tell you I hate Rocky way more ,I like relish ,I hate the cheap mustard (excuse me but do you have any grey poupon?)I like women with red/blonde/brown or black hair and long walks on the beach

so my point is try everything and make up yer own mind cuz opinions are like assholes around here ... everybody has one



Morland is so fast. And by so fast I mean jesus christ the kid can give'r.

[Jaysin]

in case anyone were to ask...

http://bb.nsmb.com/showthread.php?t=74740&highlight=2006+norco+torrent


nice write up smooch!

My bro just stepped into a M '05 Torrent and he loves it! it's his first bike in 10 years, and he has been ripping everyday he can.... we're taking him to whistler in 25 days :lol:

[SysCo.]

Can you explain what makes the Cove a better designed bike? What makes the Norco a poorly designed bike? What about it isn't good? What makes the Cove bike better (aside from it having a cool looking skull logo on it)? Give the guy some facts and not just your opinion, because your opinion reads as pretty biased and ill informed. If you are going to drop comments like you did, you need to back them up if you don't want to be blown off and not taken seriously.

As a guy who is pretty deep into bikes and gear, I'd love to see you expand on this. :)



Well first off, i dont really dig the skull on my cove, i quit the hells angels in my early 20's never really wanted to go back.
In this particular situtation the cove stiffee is the better designed bicycle, its roots go back into the early days of the shore, the guy who was(i think coves been sold now but..) behind cove built this bike to ride on the shore,
he didnt go to some catelogue and order 1200 of these and 1000 of those, with extensive r&d he figured out where he needed more metal, and where he didnt. The cove stiffees lighter then norco for one thing, and ive seen everything from 66rc's to sliders put on these frames without problems, over the years ive seen many a norco crack and fail, and im not refering to just the early vps'. but im dragging us all off topic. The frame is amazingly versatile and strong. The slack back end makes the frame easy to move in the air and on the climbs and downhills.
this particular guys looking for a decent 5" travel hardtail, no huge hucking or massive ladder bridges, just something you can ride up and still have a load of fun coming down with, the stiffee frames gonna be lighter, stronger, stiffer and geometery better suited for his type of riding.
Not to mention the exceptional service he'll get from cove, which he may get with his norco, but i've expirenced and watch first hand customers with norco warranty problems get messed over, coves got a reputation that can hold water, but like i said earlier he might maybe get it with the shop he gets the norco from who knows.

Balls in your quote, everything i said probably hasnt made a inch of sense. corey feel free to rip it apart and sell him a norco. im actually worried to what your gonna say.

ps. if the norcos better designed how come everyone hasnt tried to steal there designs..the coves a better bike for this guy.

[Vapor]

Just back from the Woodlot, it was damn hot up there. Ran into a few people who were raving about they're duals. Now I'm flip flopping between that and the hardtails. What's the scoop on the BigHit by Specialized? I'm pretty sure I can get a fairly good deal on a bike from the Specialized line.

Time for a little more research I guess. Once again thxs for all the input.

[flatman]

From Norco ...

http://www.norconewsletter.com/archive/article.cfm?CID=11

[SysCo.]

ok, vapor.
are you down for riding the woodlot next weekend.?
we'll meet up. ill see what your looking to ride,
going from a stiffee to a bighits quite a large jump.
preferably sunday.

[Lady Gravity]

Well first off, i dont really dig the skull on my cove, i quit the hells angels in my early 20's never really wanted to go back.

huh? really? then this doesn't make sense ...

lately ive been lucky to get out doing real riding twice.
being 16, and living in the bum hole of surrey doesnt help.

[Neo]

yea i think sysco is confused.

[Wayne P]

If you have a choice, go dually.

[Neo]

i agree. go dually.

[SysCo.]

i have a split personality.
i was waiting for someone to catch on.
ps. people dont take kids seriously.

[freakonaleash]

Can you explain what makes the Cove a better designed bike? What makes the Norco a poorly designed bike? What about it isn't good? What makes the Cove bike better (aside from it having a cool looking skull logo on it)? Give the guy some facts and not just your opinion, because your opinion reads as pretty biased and ill informed. If you are going to drop comments like you did, you need to back them up if you don't want to be blown off and not taken seriously.

As a guy who is pretty deep into bikes and gear, I'd love to see you expand on this. :)

Maybe cove lovers like the uniqueness of a cove bike. Built local. Not many around. And the components are to your specs, what you want. You dont buy the "cove shocker" and get the SR suntour duro fork, the "tuff" rear shock and the "power tools" saddle. You get the Cove shocker with The shiver, The vanilla RC and a crazy tioga saddle. You get what you want. Plus they have sexy names and a skull, so its worth it.

[SysCo.]

Maybe cove lovers like the uniqueness of a cove bike. Built local. Not many around. And the components are to your specs, what you want. You dont buy the "cove shocker" and get the SR suntour duro fork, the "tuff" rear shock and the "power tools" saddle. You get the Cove shocker with The shiver, The vanilla RC and a crazy tioga saddle. You get what you want. Plus they have sexy names and a skull, so its worth it.

correction you get a cove shocker with a fox dhx 5.0 ti spring, wtb elite ti saddle, 06 world cup air with ti internals, and ck everything.

[Neo]

cove's frames aren't built locally anymore.

[drummer_dil]

go fer a dually, i have had both and i will never go back to hardtail

[SysCo.]

cove's frames aren't built locally anymore.

i heard the handjob stiill was.

yess in surrey does some im pretty sure...
either that or theres just cove frame lieing around

[Timmigrant]

Vapour, your best bet in spending your hard earned dollars to go out and try as many bikes as you can. Decide for yourself what it is you want. Everything you're going to read on the boards is heavily laced with bias and opinion. All the bike companies these days make quality bikes at comparable prices, your decision is going to be based on personal preference.

In my opinion, if you can afford it, spend the extra money and get yourself a dual suspension bike in the 5-6" range front and rear. I rode a hardtail for years, and still love riding my hardtails, but the full suspensions bikes these days pedal uphill well, and save your joints on the way down. The caveat to this is that on a limited budget you're going to be getting lower grade components for your dollar on a dual suspension than on a hardtail.

Ands it pretty clear that SysCo has absolutely no fact or basis for his comments. Every bike in the Norco bike line up has very well thought out spec, is very competitively priced and well designed and applicable geometry.

[wesleymantooth]

In my opinion, if you can afford it, spend the extra money and get yourself a dual suspension bike in the 5-6" range front and rear. I rode a hardtail for years, and still love riding my hardtails, but the full suspensions bikes these days pedal uphill well, and save your joints on the way down. The caveat to this is that on a limited budget you're going to be getting lower grade components for your dollar on a dual suspension than on a hardtail.

Couldn't have said it better. And if you go used, you might find the price of a full suspension in good condition not too bad. I still have a lot of fun on a hardtail, but I can't ride it more than about once a week with my knees aching the rest of the time, so fully was an investment in my knees more than anything. For what it's worth, I have a Norco hardtail, Norco full suspension, and Banshee full suspension, and I love 'em all. And if I could add another one it would probably be a Cove. Hope that helps! ;)

[Silk]

i have a split personality.
i was waiting for someone to catch on.
ps. people dont take kids seriously.


Sure we do, we just don't take you seriously :)

[freakonaleash]

i heard the handjob stiill was.

yess in surrey does some im pretty sure...
either that or theres just cove frame lieing around


I thought all coves where built locally. Last time I was in cove bike shop (ironically the first time ive been there) I asked where theyre made, the guy said burnaby(I THINK !), he also said its the same company that makes rocky mountain.

[Neo]

In my opinion, if you can afford it, spend the extra money and get yourself a dual suspension bike in the 5-6" range front and rear. I rode a hardtail for years, and still love riding my hardtails, but the full suspensions bikes these days pedal uphill well, and save your joints on the way down. The caveat to this is that on a limited budget you're going to be getting lower grade components for your dollar on a dual suspension than on a hardtail.


Exactly. after riding hardtail exclusively for years, i got this (http://photos.nsmb.com/showimage.php?i=5387&catid=searchresults&searchid=26230) and i love it. i can go 5.5" or 6.5" rear travel and it feels perfect for all the shore riding i do, including climbing, bombing down rocky rooty steeps, man-made skinnies, ladders, etc., and mid-sized drops (under 6 ft). best of all, i got it secondhand for a very reasonable price (less than the price of a lot of brand-new hardtails).

[ERregular]

I rode an all rigid bike for 18 years before going to a fully. I love it! I still have not figured out exactly how to ride the thing (FS lines and rigid lines are VERY different from each other, no to mention that hydro disc brakes with 203mm rotors stop a lot better than centre-pull cantis), but I love it!

I would scrape up the extra cash for a FS if I were in your position. If you are really set on an HT though, look at the Sinister Ridge with a Pike. The frames are not Vancouver local, but they are built by hand (those of the legendary Frank The Welder) in a small New England town. Awesome, awesome bikes.

[the Master Plan Dan]

The Norco Argument...

I ride a 2004 Norco Shore... I have had no problems with it. And contray to what most people seem to think, it is rather quite. The only noise my bike makes is when the saint derailer smashes into the chain stay. That could remedied through another thread I am assured.

I bought the bike because for the money it was the best deal. When you are going through university... you can't afford an extremely expensive bike. I also got a deal because I worked at the shop and they were the most willing company to do it for me.

I really like my bike. It is not the best... I have since ridden many bikes... Demo 9 being the favorite by far... but again... that whole money issue, except now it is trying to pay off university and save for a condo.. cough cough.. $400,000 shoebox!

In the end ride what you like and enjoy it, don't spread your hate of another company. (Although I think I could arghargharab flafvvvgrg.... that is the sound of my foot in my mouth!)

Oh and go dualy!

Cheers!

[freakonaleash]

I love norco and cove. Id honestly rather have a norco TDH than a schocker though, dont ask me why. I think it might be because the TDH has a nicer frame design. I like cove hardtails and norco fullys.

[CraigH]

I thought all coves where built locally.

No, the Hummer (Ti HT) has always been built in the US.

[SysCo.]

Ands it pretty clear that SysCo has absolutely no fact or basis for his comments. Every bike in the Norco bike line up has very well thought out spec, is very competitively priced and well designed and applicable geometry.

since when are we talking about specs.
norco wins hands down, the money they save but cutting costs with there frames, allows them to give a great bang for buck parts spec.

[Chief]

No, the Hummer (Ti HT) has always been built in the US.
yeah the Ti hummer is made by litespeed and the rest are made by yess

[Neo]

yeah the Ti hummer is made by litespeed and the rest are made by yess
last i heard, yess does not make them anymore (since 2004 anyways).

[MudPie]

Sounds good, I'll also have a look at the Sram then.
I appreciate the input. It's info overload trying to figure out whats what and whats good.

What would be a great fork to run. Again, looking at a mid range fork that's idiot proof and won't require a lot of maintenance and is easily adjustable (am i asking too much).

If I go with a Cove is it going to come in around 2k?

thxs.....off to the Woodlot today.....hot hot hot

i got a stiffee for 2kish from main st cove
sramx-7all rear and trigger and an LXfront derailleur
05 Z-1 130mm
Hayes
single tracks rims, although I changed the rear to a Mavic (they'll know which one) and am happier...it stays trued
2.5 high roller on back and fr minion on front
it's pretty standard build for stiffee...but they'll chop n change for ya when you buy it

I love the Z-1 it's nice and sensitive for xc needs and has the lock out which is nice for energy and helps you egt over the bar when going uphill.

the tyres are superb and you can ride them on 25-30psi no worries. it's nice to have extra fatness on hardtail tyres when you're doing trails here...it's like having 1" suspension on the rear ;). only thing is they weigh

it's super manoeuvreable and as far as hitting it's OK with 4/5 feet to flat and more otherwise...sosimilar to what you're doing....so I'm riding kinda like you described

I definitely stick to a HT...you can feel the trail and need to control your bike (rather than just aim) so it's more intersting....there's no real need for dually for this kind of stuff

[nouseforaname]

Well first off, i dont really dig the skull on my cove, i quit the hells angels in my early 20's never really wanted to go back.
In this particular situtation the cove stiffee is the better designed bicycle, its roots go back into the early days of the shore, the guy who was(i think coves been sold now but..) behind cove built this bike to ride on the shore,
he didnt go to some catelogue and order 1200 of these and 1000 of those, with extensive r&d he figured out where he needed more metal, and where he didnt. The cove stiffees lighter then norco for one thing, and ive seen everything from 66rc's to sliders put on these frames without problems, over the years ive seen many a norco crack and fail, and im not refering to just the early vps'. but im dragging us all off topic. The frame is amazingly versatile and strong. The slack back end makes the frame easy to move in the air and on the climbs and downhills.
this particular guys looking for a decent 5" travel hardtail, no huge hucking or massive ladder bridges, just something you can ride up and still have a load of fun coming down with, the stiffee frames gonna be lighter, stronger, stiffer and geometery better suited for his type of riding.
Not to mention the exceptional service he'll get from cove, which he may get with his norco, but i've expirenced and watch first hand customers with norco warranty problems get messed over, coves got a reputation that can hold water, but like i said earlier he might maybe get it with the shop he gets the norco from who knows.

Balls in your quote, everything i said probably hasnt made a inch of sense. corey feel free to rip it apart and sell him a norco. im actually worried to what your gonna say.

ps. if the norcos better designed how come everyone hasnt tried to steal there designs..the coves a better bike for this guy.

= junk.

Norco are THE local company - how many others did you see at the outdoor show (crappy as it was)? Their bikes are designed for here - sure just like Coves are. But dont pretend that Coves dont break, and norcos do. Everything breaks, but made in taiwan isnt some kind of poor quality label. Compare the welds and you'll see little difference.

Go for the shop/brand/model that gives you the best vibe. like wayne says, test ride till you can feel a difference either in the service or in the bike.

[SysCo.]

= junk.

Norco are THE local company - how many others did you see at the outdoor show (crappy as it was)? Their bikes are designed for here - sure just like Coves are. But dont pretend that Coves dont break, and norcos do. Everything breaks, but made in taiwan isnt some kind of poor quality label. Compare the welds and you'll see little difference.

Go for the shop/brand/model that gives you the best vibe. like wayne says, test ride till you can feel a difference either in the service or in the bike.


as for you last statement, i agree.

As for cove, i paid the deep cove shop a visit and had a little talk to with the guy, seems things arent so hot, there going for the taiwan frames, local community invlovement will soon cease almost completely, they want to focus more on there "europian market". i've loved my cove but these are sad times. whos left? i guess paying 25 a week vs 25 and hour is just bussiness, its sad to see a company that "cared" disappear from the scene/


Sure we do, we just don't take you seriously :)

well, some of you dont.
and its a real good thing.
your the smart ones.
but once in a while im sincere.

[Chunk]

but cove i believe has better quality control,

what is this statement based off of?

[Vapor]

Paid the LBS a visit yesterday. I ended up buying a Norco Atomik....
Heavy bike, and more then I need right now, but lots of room to grow into it. Spoke with the mechanic and he said he hadn't seen any issues yet with this bike. I was looking at a specialized Bighit II first, but he thought best bang for the buck was the Norco.

Took it for a quick go in the watershed, as it's only ten minutes away from my place. I've been riding a Trek 8000 for the last 6-7 years, and this bike is worlds apart. I'm very happy with it, and I guess that's all that matters in the end. :agree:

I was surprised by the weight of the front end though. It has a Marzocchi Super 7 up front.

Now to take the thread in a different direction after somewhat hijacking it.....
It's about riding techniques on this thing. I'll keep it to two questions.

When approaching a 90 degree drop, that you aren't able to ride over. Are you looking to approach it at speed, compress the front fork and spring the front of the bike just before going over, or just get some speed up and lift the front up as you go over....The bike just seems so heavy I'm scared that the front is going to drop over the edge like a ton of lead sending me airborne.

Question two. Steeps. What's the best way to take em?

Thxs again for everyone's input.

[ERregular]

I'm still figuring all this out for a FS bike, but...

90* drops - speed helps. Either technique you mentioned will work, depending on how much you want to send it off the drop. Start by just lofting the front end a bit. Your front end is heavy, but it will do its work if you come down hard on it. I watched a guy land extremely front heavy off a very large boost. I expected him to get pitched, but the fork (an 888 ) just sucked it up and he was on his way. The weight of the fork will only become a problem if you are going too slowly into the drop. That is when it will work like an anchor, likely tossing you OTB and onto your head in the process.

Steeps - get your weight back a bit and stay off the brakes (which seems like the last thing you want to do, but speed -or at least momentum - helps A LOT). If you are going to brake, give the rear wheel a bit of preference (too much on the front and you'll go down the hill without the bike), but try not to skid too much since it's not so good for the trail.

[Uncle Duke]

i could be wrong, but if you can afford the cove jump on it.
norcos just a cheaper poorlier designed bike,



if your looking for a burlier ride, better designed bike then a norco, and feel the cove might be to much, check out brodie bikes.




wtf are you talking about? you're saying brodie and cove are making better bikes than norco? I laff at you in disdain.

I wouldnt trade my norcos for a cove or brodie frameset ever.

[Uncle Duke]

coves got a reputation that can hold water,


i was in the cove last yr when a guy I used to know from the xc days came in with a cove hardtail he had owned for 2 months.the rear dropouts were not correctly alligned during manufacturing.i was standing right there as the manager of the shop told him no dice , nothing he could do.

on the side I told the guy to just go up to chazzies house and show him the frame.

[Neo]

i think sysco tends to confuse his opinions with facts...

[Uncle Duke]

i think sysco tends to confuse his opinions with facts...


yes,yes he does.

[nouseforaname]

its sad to see a company that "cared" disappear from the scene/


Wait a minute - they dont care anymore because they have moved roduction to Taiwan? Or does moving production to taiwan mean that they can stay in business, and therefore CONTINUE to care for you? The answer is the second one, if you aren't sure.

[MudPie]

they already build the sanchez abroad...are they really mopving everything abroad or just certain models? I haven't heard of any complaints on these, anyone else?
if they do so, they better do it well, because they will lose a big marketing prestige / moral high ground i.e. locally made. they better make sure the price is right cos they'll be competing with all the other big manufacturers on a square basis

[nouseforaname]

moving to the east will mean that they will be able to get access to the high tech - such as hydro forming, that is currently a mark of a well made taiwanese (for example) frame. Look at the norco Kokanee - 700 and its got a hydro formed frame. Imagine what you could do if your FRAME was 700! Light + Strong = shore bike.

[the Master Plan Dan]

Yeah my only question would be that they can drop the price of the bikes. In the end I do not see why this is a big issue. I mean outside of the labour mentalities of these countries... pretty much everything that be buy comes from outsourcing.

I too would love a Canadian made bicycle... I bought a Devnchi, made in Quebec... but I paid the price.

If economy is what you are looking for, outsourcing is the only way to survive. If prestige is the choice, buy the locally produced merchandise!

Dan

[drummer_dil]

how many people on here own a twainese (spelling) made bike? i dont think it makes a defference.
except master plan dan is right about prestige
but in the end the bikes work the same

[the Master Plan Dan]

but in the end the bikes work the same

Because if it ment that bikes that were made over there were not as good, Specialized, Trek, Giant and Gary Fisher would all be crappy bikes!

[Fluid]

I'm still figuring all this out for a FS bike, but...

Steeps - get your weight back a bit and stay off the brakes (which seems like the last thing you want to do, but speed -or at least momentum - helps A LOT). If you are going to brake, give the rear wheel a bit of preference (too much on the front and you'll go down the hill without the bike), but try not to skid too much since it's not so good for the trail.

I've taken courses on doing steeps and this is the exact opposite of what we've learned.
Giving preference to the rear brake over the front on steep stuff is what causes you to skid. Been there, done that. Ever since I learned how to properly use my front brake I no longer skid on steep sections like I used to because I use mostly my front and just a bit of the rear now on that stuff. Locking out your front will cause you to 'go down the hill without the bike', but you can actually use quite a bit of front brake without getting to that point. You just have to get to know your brakes really well and their range of effect.

[Vapor]

Just came back from the Woodlot this morning. Two cars there when I came no one when I left. It was a son-of-a-b**ch to hike that bike up the Mnt. I though I was in pretty good shape, it kicked my ass. All was forgotten by the time I started heading down.

I was going to try and find Platinum, but I was too tired and went to Cabin instead. The new bike was great. It really ate up the trail. Those 2.5 tires are very forgiving and ploughed through some lines that were less then perfect. Suspension was the bomb. I'm wishing I came into this sport much sooner. Too much fun.

I'll work on using some front brake on the steeps.

Are there any good spots around that one can practice jumping. Small stuff first, and maybe some small gap jumps, and I mean small.

[Rat]

No use riding platinum unless your prepared to send it 12 ft+

Cabin Snakes shotgun is one sweet DH run in my books. also There are a couple smaller gaps on Snakes as well as Hoots that are good to practice on.

[freakonaleash]

Just came back from the Woodlot this morning. Two cars there when I came no one when I left. It was a son-of-a-b**ch to hike that bike up the Mnt. I though I was in pretty good shape, it kicked my ass. All was forgotten by the time I started heading down.

Was it the first time you went to woodlot ? The first time I went It was tiring to just go to shotgun. Now I can go to the top, come down and than go back up to quickhit. What im trying to say here is the more you go, the easier the walk up goes.

Next time you go try hitting Crazy Carpenter, Blood Donar, Giant Killer, Hoots. Thats an awesome line, but takes some practice to get it right. Thats beautiful on a fully though. Many a ladder, big drops, many a jump on blood donar too.

[SysCo.]

what is this statement based off of?

the fact that in 2003 caps in langley, had one out of every six norco "shore series" hardtails have frame defects.

i was in the cove last yr when a guy I used to know from the xc days came in with a cove hardtail he had owned for 2 months.the rear dropouts were not correctly alligned during manufacturing.i was standing right there as the manager of the shop told him no dice , nothing he could do.
on the side I told the guy to just go up to chazzies house and show him the frame.


one story, read cove user reviews on any site..
there a 4 plus rating out of 5.
always.

[schoenrock]

haha, you guys ride norco's

[Vapor]

Been to Woodlot 5-6 times. Didn't have a problem with my other bike, it's close to half the weight of the Atomik. Had to stop for several breaks on the way up, if I wasn't there by myself it would have been embarrassing.

I'll have a look at the carpenter line towards the end of the week, I'll save platinum for another time. Seems you could spend a year at the Woodlot and not tire of it.

thxs ya'all

[Cobster]

iave an norco atomic too and i found that the only problem is that some of the parts wear out quick because there low end parts
i hated the stock fork that it came with so i replaced it with a monster t
now if you think the stock front is heavy you shold take my bike for a spin...
the front is so heavy i was nose diving most of the jumps on a line till i got a handle on it

to your question on how to drop it all depends on the drop and the landing

i found that the best way to drop stuff is to lean way back and just pretty much roll off it

[trout]

one story, read cove user reviews on any site..
there a 4 plus rating out of 5.
always.


Wow, hard to argue with 4 plus out of 5, that's almost, like, 5 out of 5.

[Neo]

^:lol::lol: