Stupid A-Line passing

[Parris]

So I'm riding my last run of the day today, I admit I was coasting a little at the bottom just before the road. I heard someone coming up on my rear so I dropped the hammer. Then I look back and some idiot just flew onto the road early and ended up on the other side in the bushes.

Now I can't say that I'm not guilty of this crime, I've made some sketchy passes. But I paid for them with my head. Lesson learned.

Can't people just learn to either ride the brakes before a jump section so they have enough room to hit them or maybe chill out until there's a safe place to pass. Or better yet call out and make some noise. It's a bit better than kicking out a big whip into some guys head.

I've seen too many dumbasses either get into a wreck or cause the guy they're passing to wreck just so they can pass at the exact moment they reach someone. It's not a race and you'll get another run.

Just getting a little pissed off at people thinking they're badass mofos just cuz they can pass in the sketchiest place possible. Value your head, and use it for god's sake. Or better yet pass someone on the GLC drop and see what comes of it. Darwin style.

[bcbud]

Time to beat that horse again, was waiting for the start of another thread like this, only took a week......

[connor]

yeah really, seems like every week in the summer this comes up..

Call out if you want to pass..

Get out of the way if someone comes up behind you..

Say thanks when they do..

blah blah blah..

does that sum it up??

[Random Hero]

So many noobs, so little time...

[Sharon]

should it be stickied so hopefully we only have one?

[APT]

Too many rock star attitude up there.

[Supervokes]

Here's some advice to everybody who complains about passing....

When you are sitting around in your groups stopped talking at various points along a-line and you see a female rider shoot in .... WAIT a couple minutes before jumping in !!!!! My wife rides a-line all the time and can do the trail very well ... but not lightning speed like many of you. And yet I cannot tell you how many times young riders shoot in directly right behind her on the trail and then get pissed off they have to pass. DUH!!! NO KIDDING!!

[Rosscofat]

O M G. hahah i have to admit.. i was really wanting to yell at a few people.... hopefully they will have A better system for stopping the unexperinced riders going down A line.. on super cycles witch I saw.

[Danny K]

So many noobs, so little time...

Damn... you are fucking sick.

[kalisto]

One thing whistler was lacking was a medium between something super easy and A-Line. B-Line is not even comparable. One could do that super easy, goto A-Line, and be fairly slow. They've finally added crank it up last year which seemed to fill the gap a bit better. And Now I've heard they've added some more runs for intermediate riders to practice their skills on before hitting A-Line.

Hopefully this will keep slower riders off it, until they're ready, but remember, we were all beginners at some point in our life. If you want the run to yourself, goto the top of the 7th of Fromme. Stop bitching, and have fun.

[mattj]

Damn... you are fucking sick.

I know eh?? He intimidates AND impresses me with his unconstructive off-handed one-liners too...


-m

[Sharon]

O M G. hahah i have to admit.. i was really wanting to yell at a few people.... hopefully they will have A better system for stopping the unexperinced riders going down A line.. on super cycles witch I saw.

you can lead a horse to water...

how many beginners ride CBC? in the wet? Do you think they have fun? yet they still do it...

Just like A-line. If you ride whistler, you HAVE to ride A-line...

[SkunkworkS]

That's Whistler for ya.

[Furious]

One thing whistler was lacking was a medium between something super easy and A-Line. B-Line is not even comparable. One could do that super easy, goto A-Line, and be fairly slow. They've finally added crank it up last year which seemed to fill the gap a bit better. And Now I've heard they've added some more runs for intermediate riders to practice their skills on before hitting A-Line.

Hopefully this will keep slower riders off it, until they're ready, but remember, we were all beginners at some point in our life. If you want the run to yourself, goto the top of the 7th of Fromme. Stop bitching, and have fun.

I think Dirt Merchant is a pretty good trail to learn on -- fewer jumps with more gentle lips on the tables.. more ride-around/passing lanes.

The unfortunate thing about Crank it up is the lack of flow through the section with the stunts, and all the stunts are in one tight little area.

One thing I wish they had was a 'No noobs' sign on the Sea to Sky Highway just before the Ferry Terminal -- we got stuck behind some guy who was going 45km/h.... he'd speed up when it was sunny, but slow down in the shade... :lol:

[kalisto]

Definitaly lack of flow, and right about dirt merchant. I havn't been to whistler yet this year, but what they need is a mini a-line, with smaller tables, and make the run a bit shorter. I've heard that they have some "mini A-Line" runs this year, but I'll just have to wait til I go...

[hooli]

yeah really, seems like every week in the summer this comes up..

Call out if you want to pass..

Get out of the way if someone comes up behind you..

Say thanks when they do..

blah blah blah..

does that sum it up??

werd...its so easy

[Hack On Wheels]

If you want the run to yourself, goto the top of the 7th of Fromme. Stop bitching, and have fun.

I don't know about that, 7th can be pretty busy, there were a lot of people up there yesterday.

[M@M]

I don't know about that, 7th can be pretty busy, there were a lot of people up there yesterday.
holiday sunday, duhhhhhh!

[Rosscofat]

Yes.. ive also never ridden CBC. but the people you see go down there.. is just now right. Last year the kids picking the bikes up over the lil drop and then going down a line is not right also. This year we saw 2 parents and a baby on the dads SHOLDERS walking down A LINE! what if someone hit that guy kid dies. or has brain damage. how bad do u think u will feel? They need STRONGER restrictions of who can ride a line. We arent judgeing a book by its cover if a kid just has a super cycle and a canadain tire helmet here.. but you get what I mean.

[M@M]

Yes.. ive also never ridden CBC. but the people you see go down there.. is just now right. Last year the kids picking the bikes up over the lil drop and then going down a line is not right also. This year we saw 2 parents and a baby on the dads SHOLDERS walking down A LINE! what if someone hit that guy kid dies. or has brain damage. how bad do u think u will feel? They need STRONGER restrictions of who can ride a line. We arent judgeing a book by its cover if a kid just has a super cycle and a canadain tire helmet here.. but you get what I mean.
youve never ridden CBC???!!! we have to hit it this summer ross.

[Rosscofat]

yes i know. Ive ridden seym Twice in my life and that was in a 4 year span.

[seand]

I walk the drop at the top of aline, and can usually land in the middle of the tables, and swerve around to prevent passing.

sometimes though, I will leave my bike in the middle of the trail, and walk to the next table to check the landing area. people seem to love that

...yup :P

[SIDESHOW]

To all the fast a-line rippers on this board....


be nice when you pass, and I will be nice when I pass you.


I laugh at all the "fast" guys on here, be patient, your not as fast as you think you are.

and if it bothers you, go ride a trail that takes skills to go fast- my gramma can go fast on a-line.

[Hack On Wheels]

Bahahaha, words of wisdom!

[connor]

To all the fast a-line rippers on this board....


be nice when you pass, and I will be nice when I pass you.


I laugh at all the "fast" guys on here, be patient, your not as fast as you think you are.

and if it bothers you, go ride a trail that takes skills to go fast- my gramma can go fast on a-line.

you should get them all to ride the Ripper Super D, and give them all a 2min headstart, and see what happens..

[IFO]

To all the fast a-line rippers on this board....


be nice when you pass, and I will be nice when I pass you.


I laugh at all the "fast" guys on here, be patient, your not as fast as you think you are.

and if it bothers you, go ride a trail that takes skills to go fast- my gramma can go fast on a-line.

promise not to tap my helmet with your tires as u go past...

:rocker:

Cya up there boss...

[Rosscofat]

I pass only when safe.. but yeah. just saying treat it like sea to sky.

[trout]

I admit I was coasting a little at the bottom just before the road. I heard someone coming up on my rear so I dropped the hammer.

Sounds like you cut them off.

[Midas]

if you want to be a fast DH rider ride the DH trails. otherwise quit complaining, its pretty simple.

[M@M]

To all the fast a-line rippers on this board....


be nice when you pass, and I will be nice when I pass you.


I laugh at all the "fast" guys on here, be patient, your not as fast as you think you are.

and if it bothers you, go ride a trail that takes skills to go fast- my gramma can go fast on a-line.
noooooooo, im soooo KORE, im soo fast on aline, and therefore i am an awsome mtn biker. allthough, im really sick of all those bumps on aline, like, wtf, mountains dont have fucking bumps on them. this is bullshit.






:rolleyes:

[MIKAS]

if you want to be a fast DH rider ride the DH trails. otherwise quit complaining, its pretty simple.
yep try to ride joyride /shlayer/ detroit rock city fast like i do and then say your a good rider a line is more fun a moderate speed , try the a line rock drop atfull speed , shit i almost landed in the burm today .....

[APT]

if you want to be a fast DH rider ride the DH trails. otherwise quit complaining, its pretty simple.

Exactly, the last time I checked there's hardly any traffic on trails like Upper & Lower Joyride, Nationals and the old whistler DH.

[Clownshoe]

Rosscofat, sorry to paste a little late but the two guys (one with a little kid on his shoulders) that you saw on A-Line are the two guys responsible for building that trail. The dad was on a day off but came up to look at the wet section which was just about to get rebuilt. I agree with you that people should not be walking on any of the bike trails but in this case it was legit.

[Random Hero]

To all the fast a-line rippers on this board....


be nice when you pass, and I will be nice when I pass you.


I laugh at all the "fast" guys on here, be patient, your not as fast as you think you are.

and if it bothers you, go ride a trail that takes skills to go fast- my gramma can go fast on a-line.


Oh no, the A-line god SLOWSHOW has spoken, beware kids, this guy flips trucks and rips shit up without cause.

[Danny K]

Oh no, the A-line god SLOWSHOW has spoken, beware kids, this guy flips trucks and rips shit up without cause.

I don't like you.

[Universe]

Rosscofat, sorry to paste a little late but the two guys (one with a little kid on his shoulders) that you saw on A-Line are the two guys responsible for building that trail. The dad was on a day off but came up to look at the wet section which was just about to get rebuilt. I agree with you that people should not be walking on any of the bike trails but in this case it was legit.

I have no idea what happened or where he was positioned, but it is not legit no matter who you are if you are putting people in danger.

[NooNer]

I have no idea what happened or where he was positioned, but it is not legit no matter who you are if you are putting people in danger.

what about schley and hoots walking up aline with their cameraman to shoot the first stepdown into the trail. there was a bit of yelling as we went by hard on brakes.

[Xmag]

you can lead a horse to water...

how many beginners ride CBC? in the wet? Do you think they have fun? yet they still do it...

Just like A-line. If you ride whistler, you HAVE to ride A-line...

Thats a great point, everyone wants to ride A-Line...

Yesterday some guy just literally flew over my head on Joy Ride, on that jump we go right over on the charilift, near the metal fences. The guy didnt even yell or asked for passage, he just flew over my head... I know it pisses you off when you have to miss that perfect jump because someone is ahead of you, it happens with me on A-Line, but on more difficult trails like Joyride I experience the other side of the coin, thats why I always wait and make sure people hear my THANKS when they stop for me to pass over on A-Line

[Furious]

Exactly, the last time I checked there's hardly any traffic on trails like Upper & Lower Joyride, Nationals and the old whistler DH.

Upper/Lower Joyride probably had the best conditions of any trail on the hill on Saturday too.

[patrolskid]

x mag , are you still in canada ?

you know we are going to ask : what are you riding ?

kalisto : we have been over this many times about the difference between a-line and b-line . the problem , we have found , is that when you make small tables , people who are travelling at the speed you need for a-line will overshoot the landings .

what i did when i first started riding the park ( after i saw a-line once , and figured out what was required ) was i went to the joyride jump park and worked at it until i could clear table #3 and was comfortable on drop #3 . i know it is not trail riding , and not much fun pushing up for every hit , but after i had gotten somewhat used to the air , i'd hook in behind my buddies who were good at a-line , and basically figured out what speed i needed to go to make the trannies . it didn't take long before i was nailing the landings . i don't do anything fancy , just straight airs with solid landings but boy , does it ever feel good .

what i don't get are the folks who continuously go down there ( a-line ) without any improvement time after time . like , rolling the lips off and landing on the tables just isn't that much fun .

and for what it is worth , any time me or the other patrolskids see guys or girls walking around or off the entrance drop we send them elsewhere , and you wouldn't believe the stories we hear . . . .

typical exchange :

us : hi there , we'd like you to be able to do that drop before you head down a-line . . . .

them : oh , i can do it , i just don't like to . . .

us : well , you know there's lots of jumps down that trail ?

them : oh yeah , i go down here all the time , i like it , i can do the jumps .

us : so you mean you can clear a 20' table top , 4' in the air , but you don't want to do a 20" drop to tranny ?

them : well , sorta . . . .



we know it's not perfect ( the system / drop / signage / qualifier ) but it is the best we've come up with so far .

you don't head for the autobahn when you learn to drive . . . .



i hope this my last post on this topic , but i kinda doubt it :lol:

[Random Hero]

I don't like you.

You act like I care? You gonna pick a E-fight with me?

On the topic, it is really up too the rider who chooses to go down a-line, as many have said before they pay their money why can't they roll down the trail? It's a two way street and this topic will never come to an end. All you can do is ride and enjoy it. I gave up trying to be nice after the second year. Too many knowitall's and too many people with a head up their ass to deal with.


P.S. Even worse than people flying by on A-line, are the morons that gather in big groups in the middle section just after crab apple to socialize and stick thumbs up there butt. They usually get a nice big dusty cloud of brakes as I skid by.

[Roasted]

P.S. Even worse than people flying by on A-line, are the morons that gather in big groups in the middle section just after crab apple to socialize and stick thumbs up there butt. They usually get a nice big dusty cloud of brakes as I skid by.

I always wonder people need to chill there. Its not like you rode very far...:D

[MIKAS]

today i seen a kid stop to answer his cell phone just befor the jump under the lift , i cant tell how much iyelled at him DUMMMBASS ECT...

[M@M]

P.S. Even worse than people flying by on A-line, are the morons that gather in big groups in the middle section just after crab apple to socialize and stick thumbs up there butt. They usually get a nice big dusty cloud of brakes as I skid by.

first off, people get tired. also, like me, who cant afford a fs yet, are riding ht's and fingers and arms get much more tired much faster. this doesnt mean that I am slow, but it just means that i need to take breaks more often. then i get to enjoy the rest of my run down.

[fitchy]

what works best for me when i pass is i yell "on your left" or "on your right" depending where i am and 95% of the time they move to one side and slow down and i pass and i say thank you. the point of my little story is that you should show a little respect when passing somebody not almost kill them.

[blunt boy]

To all the fast a-line rippers on this board....


be nice when you pass, and I will be nice when I pass you.


I laugh at all the "fast" guys on here, be patient, your not as fast as you think you are.

and if it bothers you, go ride a trail that takes skills to go fast- my gramma can go fast on a-line.


Sideshows got it right. I blame hip-hop. All talk and more talk.

[RacerX]

Ok, I always wait for a safe oppourtunity to pass, always say thanks to those who let me by, etc. But on Sunday afternoon, A rockstar needed to be taught a lesson and I don't feel the least bit bad about it.

I was coasting the flat after the shale section on aline, strechin my fingers for the last section, I'm right at the corner right before the small table that would normally give you the choice of lower aline or the bonyard/biker-x. I hear "ON YOUR LEFT!" and instantly the guy stuffs me goin through the corner. There's no way I was gonna take that kind of attitude, so after recovering from the stuff and dropping the hammer, I managed to catch him at the start of the tech section. I took the little shortcut, and made it back to the trees just in time to stuff him back. Boy was he pissed! haha

I know it's not the right thing to do, but I figure if he can dish it out, he should be able to take it too. And hopefully along the way he realized that just because you CAN pass somebody, dosn't always mean you are faster!

[blunt boy]

that is perfect. No need to feel bad. Would have done the same thing.

[03stinkyrida]

cant everyone just play nice?

[Hack On Wheels]

P.S. Even worse than people flying by on A-line, are the morons that gather in big groups in the middle section just after crab apple to socialize and stick thumbs up there butt. They usually get a nice big dusty cloud of brakes as I skid by.

Wow, you really come off like a jerk. Ever hear of riding in groups? Well, some people ride with their friends on Whistler and after the first part of a-line or after Dirt Merchant, many of them will stop to regroup. Some people also have a more relaxed attitude towards their riding and towards other people. "Different strokes for different folks." Please try to be a bit more understanding, unless they are blocking the way through, there is no reason to be unhappy with them.

[M@M]

cant everyone just play nice?
:lol: your probably just elated because you just got back from there....lucky bastard.

[Hack On Wheels]

cant everyone just play nice?

No, that way there would be no drama and tension and everyone would be having fun.

[Chief]

whistler rules
mid aline is poop right now if you want high speed jumps go for crabapple

[Rosscofat]

yup new a line is mud. witch is fine.

Clownshoe if thats whos they were.. I am sorry but they should be on the OUTside of a berm not inside of a blind corner. thats like a dear jumping at you on a corner over a cliff. make your self noticed. and having a kid on your sholders is not safe no matter WHO or what you are. if he felt the kid could of landed on the berm and be hit. I dont even wanan think about that. why dare at all put your baby in any danger you dont have to put her or him in!

[Universe]

what about schley and hoots walking up aline with their cameraman to shoot the first stepdown into the trail. there was a bit of yelling as we went by hard on brakes.

Yes, even the mighty Schley.

[funkendrenchman]

How many more times will there be one of these threads by year's end?

[Rosscofat]

this is it. :)

I should be a tottal asshole and get a big wide sign that says NO passing put it on my back and go super slow down aline and have like 15 ppl behind me. and if they try and pass I will fall into them just as they try. call a lawsuit and say they assulted me

[axisofevelknievel]

I should be a tottal asshole and get a big wide sign that says NO passing put it on my back and go super slow down aline...

Get a shower rod and attach it horizontally to your body/pack - it should help prevent anyone from passing you.

[SysCo.]

this is it. :)

I should be a tottal asshole and get a big wide sign that says NO passing put it on my back and go super slow down aline and have like 15 ppl behind me. and if they try and pass I will fall into them just as they try. call a lawsuit and say they assulted me


NO NO

get one of those wide loads signs with the flashing lights.

[SysCo.]

ps. when i ride whister for the first time..ill try to go fast.

[bcbud]

only took a day and this threads outta control.....

[NooNer]

today i seen a kid stop to answer his cell phone just befor the jump under the lift , i cant tell how much iyelled at him DUMMMBASS ECT...


i rode over a cell phone, or at least thats what i think it was on aline. meh.

[Loopie]

we know it's not perfect ( the system / drop / signage / qualifier ) but it is the best we've come up with so far .


Is there some sort of liablity issue with NOT having a bybass? There is talk of a "qualifier", yet there is a go-around???
I've never seen this a-line drop/qualifier...but how about something like the Scheyler drop with NO bypass. It's a no brainer to anyone even reasonably confident/competent...but I bet it scares a large portion of riders who at the same time, won't be clearing even 50% of the a-line jumps.

[miffed]

OMG lighten up guys, mountain biking has gone huge, whistler is it mecca. Noobs will try mountain biking at whistler who havent before and therefore will be slow, if you want to rip get a different trail accept your eutopian trail of flowy goodness has died a death. Too much traffic FAR TOO MUCH testosterome, when it opens run the garbonzo jump trails if you want to shread fast jump trails. Nuff said

[TheGiggler]

ahhhh. man i feel sorry for people who only ride WBP and think it has any relation to real riding ...

[miffed]

that is true but it is fun and its easly accessable, it also raises the profile of riding meaning more money into the sport

[Geologyboy]

I remember my first run down A-line. I flatted near the top, and as i was walking down (the road, not the trail) I heard someone crash hard on A-line. I jump through the bush and I find grom with a bleeding hand and a dislocated shoulder. Three people stop to help, and two of use slow down traffic. The patrols are helping the kid at the top of the thirs lip ina sequence.

One of the "hardcores" comes down and ignores the first to guys telling him to slow down. The patrol started to rip him a new one, when he stopped and told the patroller to "Get that little Sh%t the f%^& of the trail next time". He then ripped off before the patroller could grab his pass. I was mortified that anyone who was that good, could be such a poor amabassador for the sport.

I guess the moral of the story is this"

"You stay classy Whistler"

[miffed]

Why does that not surprise me

[drummer_dil]

NO NO

get one of those wide loads signs with the flashing lights.

hahahahah that would be awsome

[Rosscofat]

who cares aslong as you have fun goin down the trail. just be safe.

I have a siren I can put on my bike for passing. omg.. Ding ding ding.

A LINE PASSSING Siren!!!!

[Supervokes]

I think we all need to remember that at one time we were all NOOBS and it could easily have been us on A-line holding up traffic.

We should be more aware of slow riders and NOT SHOOT IN THE TRAIL RIGHT AFTER THEM and then complain about having to pass. I have encountered slow riders on a-line many times and always remain courteous when passing and I keep an eye on who is entering the trail in front of me, and based on their perceived riding ability, I give them an appropriate head start if necessary.

At the end of the day, having a NOOB ruin one jump is hardly the end of the world. Some people need to get over it and themselves.

[scottvelez]

We should be more aware of slow riders and NOT SHOOT IN THE TRAIL RIGHT AFTER THEM and then complain about having to pass.

Exactly.
If you give the guy a little room before you go, you can pin it without having to pass.

It's an easy solution, but one which few people can get through their TLD.

[DaveM]

Can't we just cut and paste last years threads, and the year before that, and the year....well you get it.

A-line is the way it is, this happens every year and the same posts with the same answers and experiences come back every year. Kohut should be here pretty soon with his take on it which will be good for a few more pages of the same dead horse bashing too. I doubt it will ever change, as the mountain just gets busier and busier every year. If you don't like it, ride mid-week, evenings, or just accept it.

[apeshape]

Somethings are just inevitable. Next somebody will ask "When is Garbanzo going to open?"

[gooch]

I just bunny hop over the slower riders, and by slower riders I mean anyone who is not me.

[DaveM]

I just bunny hop over the slower riders, and by slower riders I mean anyone who is not me.

Just don't try to bunnyhop over a bike at the bottom, or we'll have to dig up the horse yet one more time. :lol:

[trout]

Anyone riding slower than me is a f@#$ing moron, Anyone riding faster than me is a f@#$ing psycho.

[synchro]

when is garbanzo going to open?

[miffed]

damn you synchro. I was just going to post that

what the hell

When is garbanzo going to open?

[the Master Plan Dan]

I asked that very same question to some of the park guys on Sunday... here is what I was told....

They get access to that area of the mountain on June 5th. That being said they were going to try and have stuff open for the middle of June... but that seems highly unlikely as there are still tons of snow up there. So I am banking on the end of June for the regular trails.

They said the new trails will not be open until the end of July... ie the Roundhouse to Freight Train connector.

That is all I know!

Dan

[bcbud]

Is it dead yet or are we gonna keep beating it for the hell of it......

[Jimmy-James]

i've passed, and been passed. As long as the slower guys stay on the right and you fast guys pass on the left there should be no problem. seams so simple...

[SkunkworkS]

It's an easy solution, but one which few people can get through their TLD.

:lol:

It's actually carbon TLD to be more precise.

[Rosscofat]

hahah so true. just look out for the siren :)

[2cents]

Cry me a river....

[connor]

yeah, really if you want no traffic, head up on a weekday. you can pretty much ride your bike onto the bike carriers on the lift, and ride trails without seeing anyone..

[FlipFantasia]

"You stay classy Whistler"
yeah, cause it's only people who live here that ride like assheads.....

[connor]

sounds like a fight.. (snaps fingers in a menacing rhythm) although there are assheads everywhere, like the xc dick, that told my gf to "get out of the way Jane.." her name is Heather.

[gooch]

sounds like a fight.. (snaps fingers in a menacing rhythm) although there are assheads everywhere, like the xc dick, that told my gf to "get out of the way Jane.." her name is Heather.

His name was Bill

[FlipFantasia]

sounds like a fight.. (snaps fingers in a menacing rhythm) although there are assheads everywhere, like the xc dick, that told my gf to "get out of the way Jane.." her name is Heather.
I call sharks!

ps - no passing issues on cheap thrills sunday, or on comfortably numb monday....except when the guy in front of you would slip out on wet roots....

[enduramil]

I call sharks!

ps - no passing issues on cheap thrills sunday, or on comfortably numb monday....except when the guy in front of you would slip out on wet roots....

I thought you spent all your time on trails like Comfortably Numb loving the chaffing action.:D

[FlipFantasia]

I thought you spent all your time on trails like Comfortably Numb loving the chaffing action.:D
there was no fun in the chaffing yesterday.....wet, cold spandex up the crack ain't no fun! I'll be shredding the park soon enough.....stupid lack of money.....but hey, trails like cheap thrills in the meantime sure ain't that bad! wow what a gem!

[LeeLau]

todd - what was snowline like on Numb? We got rained on pretty hard on PHD later in the afternoon but Meatgrinder was good in the morning. Is snow off the top of Gargamel?

[enduramil]

there was no fun in the chaffing yesterday.....wet, cold spandex up the crack ain't no fun! I'll be shredding the park soon enough.....stupid lack of money.....but hey, trails like cheap thrills in the meantime sure ain't that bad! wow what a gem!

A bad day biking is still better than a good day at work.

[FlipFantasia]

todd - what was snowline like on Numb? We got rained on pretty hard on PHD later in the afternoon but Meatgrinder was good in the morning. Is snow off the top of Gargamel?
just patchy up towards the top....it actually wasn't nearly as bad as we expected it to be.....had to walk a couple of sections but never for very long....rode with joe and mike, was mike's first time back there since his broken vertebrae incident up there during the samurai last fall! we were moving pretty good though, a couple of short breaks and then joe fixed a flat at the hut/helipad, we still did it in just over 4 hours from alpine cafe.....was wondering about phd, heard there was a lot of blowdown couple weeks back....

[Sharon]

was wondering about phd, heard there was a lot of blowdown couple weeks back....

looked like someone was in there cleaning it up.

We only did the lower section since it started to rain and a couple of people in our group would have been intimidated by the top section...

Amazing how people are riding around/beside/braid the rock faces... :rolleyes: :???:

[Geologyboy]

yeah, cause it's only people who live here that ride like assheads.....

Someone is not a Will Ferrell fan. Whistler is a town, not a group of people. Had I said "Whistlerites" or "Locals" you might want to take offense.

However this little lady has the right to be annoyed.

http://encarta.msn.com/media_461526929_761552540_-1_1/Whistler's_Mother.html

[FlipFantasia]

Someone is not a Will Ferrell fan. Whistler is a town, not a group of people. Had I said "Whistlerites" or "Locals" you might want to take offense.

However this little lady has the right to be annoyed.

http://encarta.msn.com/media_461526929_761552540_-1_1/Whistler's_Mother.html
if it's semantics you're interested in......don't the group of people make up a town? is the town nothing without the people? or if you seperate the people and the town are you telling an inanimate thing to 'stay classy'? I am a will ferrell fan, and I understand the reference, I just believe it was applied incorrectly! :)

[Luudwig]

Maybe the solution is "lanes" on A-line. You know fast lane, slow lane, commuter lane (for tandems), private lanes (pay extra fee to access at a designated time), etc. --with barriers separating the lanes of course :-).

[Geologyboy]

if it's semantics you're interested in......don't the group of people make up a town? is the town nothing without the people? or if you seperate the people and the town are you telling an inanimate thing to 'stay classy'? I am a will ferrell fan, and I understand the reference, I just believe it was applied incorrectly! :)

Your point is valid. My friends and I have taken to saying "You stay Classy San Diego" whenever something crude/inappropriate occurs in our midst. Usually this involves a wedding and an open bar.

Without an arguement about semantics, this was not directly at Whistler locals exclusively. If my intent was to offend the Whistler locals I would have said "Australians" :lol: :lol:

[FlipFantasia]

Your point is valid. My friends and I have taken to saying "You stay Classy San Diego" whenever something crude/inappropriate occurs in our midst. Usually this involves a wedding and an open bar.

Without an arguement about semantics, this was not directly at Whistler locals exclusively. If my intent was to offend the Whistler locals I would have said "Australians" :lol: :lol:
or ontarians! :) I'm just being a nitpicker....and actually can't believe that I wrote something that coherant before 8am!

[blunt boy]

Maybe the solution is "lanes" on A-line. You know fast lane, slow lane, commuter lane (for tandems), private lanes (pay extra fee to access at a designated time), etc. --with barriers separating the lanes of course :-).

These are valid ideas. I like frontier justice as well though.

[Spit]

or ontarians! :) I'm just being a nitpicker....and actually can't believe that I wrote something that coherant before 8am!

Is this a good time to say 'go fuck yourself Whistler?' Or should I wait until I'm meandering down A-line like a blowling ball with the gutter guards up before I bust that one out? :agree:

[FlipFantasia]

Is this a good time to say 'go fuck yourself Whistler?' Or should I wait until I'm meandering down A-line like a blowling ball with the gutter guards up before I bust that one out? :agree:
say it whenever you want, and if it's something you actually believe, you can stay home anytime you please! :) I for one hope more people choose that option so it's less crowded.......the funniest part about all of this trash talking of whistler? ....go to the park on a weekday evening and see how chill it is....it's the out-of-town folk that bring up the attitude on weekends......

[Geologyboy]

say it whenever you want, and if it's something you actually believe, you can stay home anytime you please! :) I for one hope more people choose that option so it's less crowded.......the funniest part about all of this trash talking of whistler? ....go to the park on a weekday evening and see how chill it is....it's the out-of-town folk that bring up the attitude on weekends......

That's why we plan our trips early in the year, and during the week. It is so chill on a tuesday up there.

[Chief]

im sad i didnt ride yesterday but i woke up to a hella fucked up rotor and a swollen knee and didnt feel like getting soaked so i headed back to the real world

[Air Supplier]

I agree you man, there are alot of jerks on the park. I try my best to find a good spot to stop if someone is fast behind me, but I think if someone is going pretty fast down a trail, I don't think there is a need to pass them at a certain time (if there is no where else to stop). Maybe they're trying to go as fast as they can to let you pass. Another thing that sometimes gets me mad is when people in big groups stop in fairly open sections (where dirt merchant meets up with A-line) and some people have no sense of trail trail meet. So people sometimes are sitting in the middle of the path, because everyone else has stopped their so maybe they should stop there too. So more and more people take a beather at this one particular spot which kinda messes with me.

[Dantes Inferno]

I agree you man, there are alot of jerks on the park. I try my best to find a good spot to stop if someone is fast behind me, but I think if someone is going pretty fast down a trail, I don't think there is a need to pass them at a certain time (if there is no where else to stop). Maybe they're trying to go as fast as they can to let you pass. Another thing that sometimes gets me mad is when people in big groups stop in fairly open sections (where dirt merchant meets up with A-line) and some people have no sense of trail trail meet. So people sometimes are sitting in the middle of the path, because everyone else has stopped their so maybe they should stop there too. So more and more people take a beather at this one particular spot which kinda messes with me.

Where DM meets Aline is uphill. Wouldnt it makes sense to take a breather there? It is whistler after all.

[mzx]

Well, my experience with WBP rider interaction was always very good for the last 4 years since I'd been riding there. And yes, I used to be one of those slower riders on aline - moved to the right and got passed by people - some of them letting me know, some didn't. Never any crap from anyone, which is not to say, it does not happen - judging from these BB, it seems to happen a lot. Weird thing is that down here, riding the NS trails, nobody ever yells at anyone just because they had to slow down or even stop because of someone slower going down Neds or CBC or whatever - and there is no easy lift ride up for another run down here... All I have seen were just smiles and easy banter. What is it about WBP what makes some people to act like total a*holes? Easy getaway from the scene, perhaps, ease of getting blended into the crowd?

[SysCo.]

Where DM meets Aline is uphill. Wouldnt it makes sense to take a breather there? It is whistler after all.

:lol:

[Hack On Wheels]

Andy, what happened?

[Rosscofat]

get off my trail newbs

[rowdy01]

get off my trail newbs

agreed.....Whistlers full........stay home.

[Spit]

say it whenever you want, and if it's something you actually believe, you can stay home anytime you please! :) I for one hope more people choose that option so it's less crowded.......the funniest part about all of this trash talking of whistler? ....go to the park on a weekday evening and see how chill it is....it's the out-of-town folk that bring up the attitude on weekends......


Course I don't mean it mate, it's another Anchorman quote...

[Roasted]

yeah, really if you want no traffic, head up on a weekday. you can pretty much ride your bike onto the bike carriers on the lift, and ride trails without seeing anyone..


I am pretty beginner at jumps, I prefer the rubber side down, but this is the only time I ride a-line. I don't get in the way of the faster riders and they don't pretend like they can run me over :)

[Monkeybutt]

You've just got to have the right attitude about passing and being passed.

If someone blows by you in a split second, you should be very aware of not being a danger on A Line when riding it.

For those fast riders out there, I love it when someone happens to be going fast enough to get on my back tire. If you want to pass me, you've got to earn it. I will always be safe and give an opening but you've got to be good enough to take it. And if you do get by, I am going to bust my balls to ride your back tire. All of that helps me be a better, faster rider.

[connor]

yeah same, I'm reasonably quick down most things.. If someone's totally riding my ass I'll let them by, but expect the same from me.. Unless you're Bryn Atkinson, he tailed me for a bit up Garbo last year, I let him by and tried to keep up, but he's faaaassstt....

[freerider guy]

For those fast riders out there, I love it when someone happens to be going fast enough to get on my back tire. If you want to pass me, you've got to earn it. I will always be safe and give an opening but you've got to be good enough to take it. And if you do get by, I am going to bust my balls to ride your back tire. All of that helps me be a better, faster rider.

all i have to say to this is hell yah!! thats what I like, if you want to pass me you better be able to have the skills to stay in front and not have me braking because of you. Once i was just trying to get lots of pop off the jumps and not going for light speed so when a faster guy caught up to me i decided to just follow him cause he looked fast. That was a bad idea cause i rode his tail for a while then when i passed him back at a safe time I just cheesed it and dropped him.


Connor: you last comment reminds me of when i was up whis during crankworks. I saw kyle straight, paul b, and i think cam mccaul riding on origonal sin and when i tried to keep up to them to see how fast I was Kyle and Cam dropped me but I was right behind paul B no trouble, its just when i got into a tighter section his single crown stinky helped him a little more than my 50lbs dh bike.

[freerider-1]

I've only been tailed once so far, which must mean I'm getting faster! I've done a fare bit of tailing too, with some *very* slow people. A-Line needs a stunt at the beginning again I think. Except that won't keep people from mid A-line and lower. So I guess there is no point.

[stacy kohut]

so many people just like to bitch.thats what they do, they bitch.


they may ride mtbs, skateboards, bmx, or the couch...............but their real passion is complaining.


lots of em out there......................


people worry about gettin passed, or how the pass was done, when what they should be worried about is getting better at riding their bike.


random hero is the shit.
universe knows all.
monkeybutt's last post was spot on.


the only sane comments came from these 3.

sideshow.............forget your medicine?

[gearwh0re]

so many people just like to bitch.thats what they do, they bitch.


they may ride mtbs, skateboards, bmx, or the couch...............but their real passion is complaining.


lots of em out there......................


people worry about gettin passed, or how the pass was done, when what they should be worried about is getting better at riding their bike.


random hero is the shit.
universe knows all.
monkeybutt's last post was spot on.


the only sane comments came from these 3.

sideshow.............forget your medicine?

what about the people who couldn't pass someone because the "asshole" wouldn't let them? is their bitching in a category of its own?

[stacy kohut]

invented mtbing, but nooooooooooooooooooooo, it was the hippies, and look what that brought...........................bitching and whining and zen and peace and all that other shit that has no place in a sport with 45 pound full suspension ground pounders.

flame on, flame on......................

[fitchy]

passing is passing treat the trails like highway #1. quit your bitching and ride hard.

[stacy kohut]

perfect.

treat the trails like hiway 1 or 99.

so simple.




ever see what happens when you a 6 'bros' stop in the middle of the 99 to discuss tire choices or how your car is shifting?

[Action Hero]

invented mtbing, but nooooooooooooooooooooo, it was the hippies, and look what that brought...........................bitching and whining and zen and peace and all that other shit that has no place in a sport with 45 pound full suspension ground pounders.

flame on, flame on......................

hahaha, basically correct.

[kalisto]

"Basicially all the worst parts of the bible."

[frmstreetrider]

there is too much unndeeded un safe passing. just let ppl know wahts going on behind them
they cant see you
but you can see them
make your self known
and the dead horse has been kicked to death

[0_o]

You don't need to go very fast this season to clear all the jumps. The crew's done an excellent job building the lips up. In fact they could probably stand to add a foot or two of distance to the tranny.

My biggest complaint... what's with all these dudes passing me on big travel bikes but still can't clear all the jumps? I'm going considerbly slower but still overshooting the trannies.


I tried to pass you the other day but couldn't because your chair is too wide.

invented mtbing, but nooooooooooooooooooooo, it was the hippies, and look what that brought...........................bitching and whining and zen and peace and all that other shit that has no place in a sport with 45 pound full suspension ground pounders.

flame on, flame on......................

[enduramil]

If I was still in BC and going to Whistler, even when I move back I'd rather go for some good rides elsewhere with Flip than deal with the idiots with no bike skills DHing down the mountain.

[Stuminator]

I was at the bike park on Sunday of the long weekend with my 9 year old boy. We did E-Z does it, heart of darkness, b-line & even ducked in to hit a bit of A-line. His first time there & he loved it. I guess I'll be forking out $ for a good bike soon. Like to thank the peeps riding who showed patience with us being in the way at times. As has been said before, most riders are good guys, just a few give us a bad name. I didn't know HOD was so good. I had to hit it up meself after I dropped the boy off with mum at 4:00. Schleyer still the best run for me. Sweet lines, good times.

[stacy kohut]

for faster riders.

believe me, after 30 years of doin this shit, i can see you behind me, i can hear you behind me, and i can feel you behind me.

i will always ask if ya wanna pass too...............


all ya gotta do is pull in behind me like ya mean it, and i'll pull over as soon as it makes sense,most times i'll wave people by with my hand too.

the other day i asked someone if they wanted to pass and they said no.

fair enough.


this goes for any trail, any place, any mtn.


BUT, if your an intermediate rider, and only pullin on me cause its a long straight, and your pedaling like mad,i will definately try to drop you in the next set of turns.....


peace

[fitchy]

im with stacey on this one i have followed him down bear mtn at bc cup last year and i waited till he pulled over and asked if i wanted to pass. i said thanks and ripped it up after i passed him. on the next run he needed a push up the hill. i gave him one because he has good trail riding respect and deserved that push up the finish line hill.

[HIBuLlitT]

You don't need to go very fast this season to clear all the jumps. The crew's done an excellent job building the lips up. In fact they could probably stand to add a foot or two of distance to the tranny.

My biggest complaint... what's with all these dudes passing me on big travel bikes but still can't clear all the jumps? I'm going considerbly slower but still overshooting the trannies.


I tried to pass you the other day but couldn't because your chair is too wide.
Maybe you weigh nothing or have helium in your tires...:lol:

[DaveM]

this one is for you dave t!!!!!!

Well it's about time! I can't believe it took 120 posts for you to sniff this one out Stacey :lol:

Looking forward to another Kohut vs. Sideshow season. Get it on.

[rowdy01]

BANG........BANG........BANG

there, three shots in the head......hopefully this topic will stay dead.

[Geologyboy]

Stacey,

I don't live in Whistler, so i have never seen you on the hill. However I used to race for Lake Louise, and you hopped into our Slalom courses on occassion back in the day. I always had respect for your skills. Hopefully I get to see them on the dirt too.

[stacy kohut]

has a great summer, rides the bike park tons,progress their own skills, has fun, rips hard, and all the good shit.......................



take care

[SIDESHOW]

the hardest part about Whis for me this year will be which bike to ride...

my Faith is the sickest jumper/pinnner bike ever....but the Glory is soooooo fast, I wonder how it jumps...

ooo the agony.....

and oh yeah Stacy don't start bagging on me( medicine??)

I just think most of the assholes riding up on people and making dangerous passes aren't actually fast dudes....and they are essentialy picking on slower riders to make themselves feel quick. Truly fast guys usually know how to pass cuz they( we-lol) do it alot.....hahhaha

[stacy kohut]

have a good day?

the bike run good?


hope ya have a fun year.



peace.


heres a quality nugget for ya.............

[drummer_dil]

old skool racing is so cool cause they are fully rigid

[MIKAS]

mehh looks guay to me 1

[Rosscofat]

I wait for kids on huffy to go down a line and then i crash beside them.. with my siren going off.

[littlemountainmike]

im starting to hate the amount of people who go on aline just "for fun", they cant jump...that kinda gets me going. I almost landed on a guy last week.

[FlipFantasia]

how dare they ride just for fun! what a bunch of assholes, don't they know it's important to always be serious and must be racing at all times??!! when will they learn?

[sheffy]

im starting to hate the amount of people who go on aline just "for fun", they cant jump...that kinda gets me going. I almost landed on a guy last week.

oh no...riders going down aline for fun..how dare they:crybaby: ..i guess you just skipped the learning stage and missed the fun part of it ........if you dont like it....STAY OFF IT..more room for us....lol:agree:

[APT]

im starting to hate the amount of people who go on aline just "for fun", they cant jump...that kinda gets me going. I almost landed on a guy last week.

^^^^:lol:

Aren't we all riding "just for fun"?

[rowdy01]

im starting to hate the amount of people who go on aline just "for fun", they cant jump...that kinda gets me going. I almost landed on a guy last week.


I get what your saying, and i agree. Some trails are not meant to be ridin at your leasure. Granted everyone has a first time and that`s cool and all, but the peeps that just don`t give a shit and ride A-line at dangerously slow speeds (including stopping in the middle of the trail and around blind corners), just `cause they can, are the big problems IMO.

[fitchy]

people need to stop bitching about bbeing passed.

[fitchy]

how dare they ride just for fun! what a bunch of assholes, don't they know it's important to always be serious and must be racing at all times??!! when will they learn?

haha nicely said

[Samg]

anyone see the guy on the folding bike riding a-line at the start of the season?

probably the only guy i think you lot could all agree should not have been there.

[FlipFantasia]

anyone see the guy on the folding bike riding a-line at the start of the season?

probably the only guy i think you lot could all agree should not have been there.
yeah I'll concur with that.....

[rowdy01]

anyone see the guy on the folding bike riding a-line at the start of the season?

probably the only guy i think you lot could all agree should not have been there.


no, but when i was their last Sunday there was two kids who appeared to be around 10 or 11 years old in the line up. Problem was they were alone, and they were riding K-mart/sport check specials. I was seriously worried about these kids......i mean it looked seriously scary. Cheap bikes are fine, but these were as cheap as a "DH/FS" can get!!!

[Lady Gravity]

im starting to hate the amount of people who go on aline just "for fun", they cant jump...that kinda gets me going. I almost landed on a guy last week.

oh shit
i cant jump, and ride aline just for fun.

:rolleyes:

not everyone can jump right out of the gate, ya know, and crank it up is kinda short. get over it.

[C.Lee]

oh shit
i cant jump, and ride aline just for fun.

:rolleyes:

not everyone can jump right out of the gate, ya know, and crank it up is kinda short. get over it.
i can jump most of it but especially first one..right after the berm.. screw me over

[fitchy]

i think everybody should calm down we dont want to get a mediator in here.

[bcbud]

4 pages, "Can we keep beating the horse please??!!!"......

[FlipFantasia]

I'm trying to get the head off the horse so I can put it in someone's bed....

[bicycleguy000]

so much whining i want to cry

[HIBuLlitT]

Well, I hate it when there's anyone else on any trail I am. They
mess w/ my concetration and make me fall...:crazy:

[C.Lee]

im going next friday with 3 buds..1 ok other 2 fairly experienced trail riders...girl and a guy. I might take them down A-line once...watchout?

[Hack On Wheels]

I almost landed on a guy last week.
Possibly the only thing that has truly ever scared me/pissed me off. I guess it was kind of my fault but anyways, last year low on the mountain on A-line I hit a jump a bit too fast, surprise myself with my airtime, but then as I'm "sighting" the (kind of blind) landing... I notice a guy skidding down the landing/runout, I land fairly far down (in control luckily...) close behind him and have to pull out a big dodge. But hey, what an adrenaline rush! :dizzy:

I say if you can ride alright and ride safely, go have fun, be courteous and hopefully people will be courteous in return. If you are one of the very few people I pass, I'll try to be as careful as possible. If you want to pass me I'd love it if you give me a heads up and lots of space. Seems simple?

(Had to get a few whacks of my own on this here horse..)

[S-Dawg]

how does this thread happen every year, i dont get it. when i was dead slow it wasnt a big deal, and now that i dont usually get passed, and sometimes get held up its still not a big deal, u guys need to all calm down, if someone is going slower than ur racing speed use all that skill u have to flow and boost the jumps, still not good enough start throwin tricks, if u get to the point u are the fastest one on aline while throwin no foot cans and 3s or w/e, then i give you the right to bitch at people holding you up. aline isnt all about speed all the time so give it a break.

[Mr.Peanut]

how does this thread happen every year, i dont get it. when i was dead slow it wasnt a big deal, and now that i dont usually get passed, and sometimes get held up its still not a big deal, u guys need to all calm down, if someone is going slower than ur racing speed use all that skill u have to flow and boost the jumps, still not good enough start throwin tricks, if u get to the point u are the fastest one on aline while throwin no foot cans and 3s or w/e, then i give you the right to bitch at people holding you up. aline isnt all about speed all the time so give it a break.

agreed

[Hack On Wheels]

how does this thread happen every year, i dont get it. when i was dead slow it wasnt a big deal, and now that i dont usually get passed, and sometimes get held up its still not a big deal, u guys need to all calm down, if someone is going slower than ur racing speed use all that skill u have to flow and boost the jumps, still not good enough start throwin tricks, if u get to the point u are the fastest one on aline while throwin no foot cans and 3s or w/e, then i give you the right to bitch at people holding you up. aline isnt all about speed all the time so give it a break.

Well, I was going to agree 100% but then I noticed the part about "use all that skill u have" and realized that that could be a problem for me. I kind of rely on having a lot of speed to clear jumps, but thats my problem not anyone elses. If someone is going slower than me down A-line or whatever trail then so be it. That is just life.

[seand]

One thing that I will never forget..

Last year two of us were tra-la-la'ing down a-line and one jump into middle a-line we got passed by this speed racer dude on a foes; guy was maching like he was being chased by the grim reaper.

He catches up to this guy was was going slower than the flow of traffic and when he hit the 2nd jump foes-guy not only tries to pass this guy in the air, but he actually kicks the guy's rear wheel, and they both go down. The guy, before kicking, yells "get out of my way slow ass". classy.

Was anyone else around to see that? Prob a good 10 people saw it and everyone had no idea what to do. Both the air-ninja and his poor victim dusted off and the words started flying. We took off when we saw both were okay, but I can only imagine what caring things the dude who was roundhouse kicked had to say.

Aparently at the top of the trail, there should be a sign that reads...
"ninjas lurking around every corner"

[Hack On Wheels]

Oh geez, too bad I missed that... Although being blown past by speed racer dudes on the shore is even scarier as its something I haven't gotten used to. Passing someone in the air is going way too far, unless there is a 10-15 foot wide jump and somehow it all synch's up nicely, but since when does that happen?

[Samg]

Passing someone in the air is going way too far, unless there is a 10-15 foot wide jump and somehow it all synch's up nicely, but since when does that happen?

supprisingly often, the first 2 tables of the 3 set before the fast shale section and the big table after the rock drop are all plenty wide enough. I've passed safely on all 3.

one thing that got me the other day: im chain chainless at the moment, and will be to my new frame arrives but over the weekend at least 3 people saw i was chainless and so pulled out in front of me presuming that i would be slow, now im no adam billinghurst but these people were all a fair bit slower than me. If i pull over i lose all my speed and the sections spent punting up to speed again and i cant pass either :crybaby:

[seand]

if i see someone going chainless i assume they are speed demons and I make damn sure I am either going to stay infront of them, or let them go before me.

If they have enough stickers on their bike, they must be fast, so they go first :P

This thread is reason enough why I spend most of my day on garbo and joyride.

[Samg]

This thread is reason enough why I spend most of my day on garbo and joyride.

this thread is like a-line, you know you shouldn't, its been done a million times, but you keep coming back.

[seand]

haha! i visit this thread more than I do a-line :) I think I rode a-line a total of 5 times last year - from middle on down.

Not really my cup of tea, but ehh whatever.

[SkunkworkS]

If you were passed by some kid on a rental bike on Saturday night, around 7:50 PM, followed with a "Thanks! Have a good ride!", that was me. I had to rush back to return the bike before the shop closed...

[FlipFantasia]

stacy and I had a good chat in the line sunday about this issue.........if you're gonna do it, then do it, if you're not, hang back and relax, seriously, what's the problem here? do it quick, say thanks, get on with it......

[seand]

If you were passed by some kid on a rental bike on Saturday night, around 7:50 PM, followed with a "Thanks! Have a good ride!", that was me. I had to rush back to return the bike before the shop closed...



you were close enough to someone for long enough to get that much conversation in? Sometimes I doubt people hear me say "thank you" :)

750pm? Man you really were getting last runs in :lol: