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Dave
04-15-2006, 10:58 AM
So I'm gett'n a new rear rim, I don't want to ever true the damn thing. I was look'n @ 26 inch 729's or the FRX... is 36 hole really that much stronger? and who in the lower mainland carries Arrow rims. pros and Cons?Any other ideas?

Any suggestions on hubs, I ride an 05 holeshot.

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DrewM
04-15-2006, 11:17 AM
Arrow rims are seriously nice... I'll definitely be using them for my next wheel set. Any shop that deals with the distributor for Arrow can order them for you... which is pretty much any shop in the lower mainland.

I'll warn you though, they are American made so they ain't cheap.


729s are a great choice too. I currently run 321/729 rims and they've put in a lot of years of good service (almost 6 years for the rear)

Coastal
04-15-2006, 11:19 AM
I have a 36 hole 729 on the back of my RMX. I like it. It seems to be alittle stiffer than a 32. But it is hard to tell on my bike.

Dantes Inferno
04-15-2006, 12:10 PM
Double track on Dirty Hub

DrewM
04-15-2006, 12:38 PM
Double track on Dirty Hub


the Single Tracks are one of the best rims in terms of the strength/weight/price factor but other then those (for the $ value) and the new MTX (which a few of my friends have had a lot of luck with) I've never been happy with the strength to weight ratio of Sun rims.

I'd definetly hit a 729 before a Double Track.

I have heard good things about the Dirty Hubs in terms of cost/durability.

Supervokes
04-15-2006, 12:58 PM
yes, arguably a 36 hole will be slightly stronger laterally, however, if you land on a sharp rock, etc. (basically a factor of tire pressure, NOT what rim you are running) they will flatspot or crack, regardless of what rim you buy. The 729's are a great choice in terms of staying "true" and are very strong. You cannot go wrong with this rim. I would be more wary on tire pressure personally.

Hack On Wheels
04-15-2006, 03:17 PM
I would be most wary of simply getting them built well, and On Top carries Arrow, they at least tend to have the tires in stock, you'd have to phone (604-990-9550) to check if they have rims in stock too.

Chunk
04-15-2006, 03:37 PM
Arrow rims are seriously nice... I'll definitely be using them for my next wheel set. Any shop that deals with the distributor for Arrow can order them for you... which is pretty much any shop in the lower mainland.

I'll warn you though, they are American made so they ain't cheap.


729s are a great choice too. I currently run 321/729 rims and they've put in a lot of years of good service (almost 6 years for the rear)

I can second the Arrow rims. Got one on my DJ'er. The FRX model to be exact. Relativly light i suppose, STONG as HELL. Had some hard cases on that thing and no flat spots. It hasnt gotten out of true yet, but thats mainly cuz it was built by a pro. (well, built by me, but tensioned by a pro :) )

heckler
04-15-2006, 04:41 PM
The hub, spokes and especially the guy that builds your wheel is also a super important part of the formula for a strong wheel.

I've got a CK rear hub with Mavic 32h D521 rim on 14 gauge spokes built by Lane at On Top, and it's been going strong for 3 years. They've only trued it once, and that was minimal. I think the rectangular cross section of the rim brake wheels over a disc wheel is stronger. As well - a rim brake wheel is welded at the joint.

rowdy01
04-15-2006, 04:42 PM
Arrow=very rare (kinda cool)
Arrow=relatively heavy (830g for the DHX)
Arrow=expencive
Arrow=the strongest wheels i`ve ever owned.....period!

ZHendo
04-15-2006, 07:04 PM
I'd have to say Syncros DPS rims on Profile hubs.
If u can't get profile because of the price, go for hope hubs. The syncros rims are super strong and are pretty damn cheap. I personally think that the 729's are a rip, they are great rims, but there is definately better stuff you can get for cheaper.

Air Supplier
04-15-2006, 08:52 PM
Don't get 729's, I boxed mine.

Timmigrant
04-15-2006, 11:29 PM
You're going to have to "true" or tension everything after the first ride because the spokes settle after the build of the wheel. After that I haven't had to true either the Alex Supra D or any of my EX729s. Both great rims. Its good practice to check spoke tension regularly though. Even if its just by hand while cleaning the bike.

Dantes Inferno
04-16-2006, 02:21 PM
Double track on Dirty Hub

I was going to say the same thing. Your so smart.

Seriously. As in the first post there is no mention of weight. Ive had about 4 double tracks in lots of years of riding. Never trued one. The dirty hub is bomb proof. If your thinking arrow your not concerned with weight.

If your gonna brake your double track however, then your gonna break the arrow and the 729. So you can treat your self with strengh and insurance with arrow, or you can treat yourself with strengh and insurance as well as your wallet with a double track.

Double tracks also come in silver which looks sharp on alot of bikes these days.

Dantes Inferno
04-16-2006, 02:23 PM
I'd have to say Syncros DPS rims on Profile hubs.
If u can't get profile because of the price, go for hope hubs. The syncros rims are super strong and are pretty damn cheap. I personally think that the 729's are a rip, they are great rims, but there is definately better stuff you can get for cheaper.

I have two garbaged syncros DPS rims handing in my basement. They look worse than eggs. Its a very soft rim.

Although if its any consolation, they are still lazer straight. Tru Track tech. is good shit, just dont come up short.

http://i32.photobucket.com/albums/d48/DantesInferno666/Full.jpg

Dan CH
04-16-2006, 02:28 PM
Didnt you case a gap when you did that?

Dantes Inferno
04-16-2006, 02:30 PM
yep.

But I got another which was barely bumped in similiar condition. Rim is soft, that why it didnt snap.

NeRo
04-16-2006, 02:35 PM
well pros use these rims and they don't break them. i would suggest to not judge a rim cuz you broke it casing a huge gap. the rims you're suggesting would be wayy worse than that.

Supervokes
04-16-2006, 05:53 PM
Don't kid yourselves ... ANY RIM would have folded in that situation. Looks like a low tire pressure issue to me and not a rim thing.

dudski
04-16-2006, 06:32 PM
how hard do you people have to try to destroy 729's ?..jebus.

Bryce
04-17-2006, 02:41 PM
doubletracks have to be the most strength for the least $, or maybe a Mag 30

MIKAS
04-17-2006, 07:46 PM
just buy mine !
http://bb.nsmb.com/showthread.php?t=76910

spookymilk
04-17-2006, 08:20 PM
EX729 is about the tought rear wheel you can get that dosn't weigh a ton, 721's are very respectable too, just a little lighter, with a narrower profile (still fit 2.8 Michie's on mine though)

MIKAS
04-17-2006, 10:27 PM
729s are very sofyin my oppinnion on my first day with brand new wheels i made two hits on it ! i say there goodbut not that strong

Dantes Inferno
04-18-2006, 01:37 AM
well pros use these rims and they don't break them. i would suggest to not judge a rim cuz you broke it casing a huge gap. the rims you're suggesting would be wayy worse than that.

Does syncro send you a box of rims so when you brake them you get new ones? Or do you just put on the shiny white ones for the movie shoots?

Seriously, theres pros that ride on every rim. Doesnt mean their all invinsable.

Dantes Inferno
04-18-2006, 01:38 AM
Don't kid yourselves ... ANY RIM would have folded in that situation. Looks like a low tire pressure issue to me and not a rim thing.

That rim was soft. Yes any rim would have broke. But a stronger/ harder rim would have shattered. Im convinsed a 24" double track or Mag 30 would have survived though.

P.S.

I landed the gap, and rolled away clean. Just do to the soft nature of the rim it acted like a shock I didnt even know i broke it untill I stopped cus my spokes were rattling around.

spookymilk
04-18-2006, 01:43 AM
729s are very sofyin my oppinnion on my first day with brand new wheels i made two hits on it ! i say there goodbut not that strong

has to be the spokes.

at vedder, i jsut about full rear wheel cased a step-down twice and my rim is still perfectly true.

Bryce
04-18-2006, 02:53 PM
has to be the spokes.

at vedder, i jsut about full rear wheel cased a step-down twice and my rim is still perfectly true.

729's are strong but are more prone to flat spots when something does contact the rim. So the same wheel that survived a casing at higher tire pressure may come outta a lower pressure Ned's run with a few flat spots. Still, probably one of the best strength to weight ratios around. The MTX's are also looking pretty good, maybe better than the 729?