Tire Questions

[Rosscofat]

I have a Comp 16 2.5 and a comp24 2.5 witch is best for front tire or rear tire? and what direction? or does none of this matter... will mostly be for whistler?? dry weather... never had these types of tires so.. I dont know much about em.

[wheeler]

Put one on the front and one on the back, then take lots of pictures and let us decide.

[Rosscofat]

well diff tread pattern

[::Liam::]

softest grippiest one on the front. and the hardest compound, least grippy on the back...

logic for that is that its easier and faster to control the back sliding around rather than the front...

not falimier with those tyres though...

[Desloc]

Run the Comp16 2.5 up front reversing the pattern(run in backwards).

Run the Comp24 on the rear in either direction. Suggested direction has improved braking, but rolls slower than the reversed direction. Your call really.

Nice tires by the way. If you've never rode on this combo before you are in for a treat. They grip and rail so nice in our present condions. Remember, you can run these tires at lower pressure for more grip. For example, I ride mine around 20psi front and 26psi in the cold/rain and I'm 215lbs. I rode them at 16psi and 22psi in the snow :)

Enjoy.


Des

[eknomf]

Run the Comp16 2.5 up front reversing the pattern(run in backwards).

Run the Comp24 on the rear in the suggested direction


This is what I run as well and it works great for pretty much all conditions. The only problem is if you run one tire backwards the logos on the sidewalls won't match up, and then your bike would be ugly.

[NSTP]

for Whistler i'd prefer to run dual comp 24 in 2.2 they're fast in the dry and hook up better than a comp 16 in the dry comp 16 are much better in the wet.

[heckler]

Excellent choice Ross. Definitely put the 16 on the front and the 24 on the rear. Both in the suggested direction.

I'm not so happy with my new comp 16. It feels soft and mushy compared to the comp 24 I used to run up front. When the 16 is worn out, I'll be putting a comp 24 back on the front and running it in the reverse direction for way better braking.

And.... They're black! No jiffy marker required!

[Desloc]

I agree, the Comp16 in great in wet and tacky conditions. It's not so great in the loose dry, but still works.

Let's see what Michelin has to say about tire direction...

http://two-wheels.michelin.com/2w/front/affich.jsp?codeRubrique=8092004154751&codePage=8092004154751_03022006113300&lang=EN


Des

[Timmigrant]

For Whistler I would run a Minion or Nevegal up front. I find the Comp 16s aren't the best in dry weather, but they are amazing wet weather tires for the front. I seem to tear the side knobs off the Comp 16s though, so don't them at all anymore. The Comp24 in regular direction is still my favorite rear tire almost all conditions, 2.2" for dry and 2.5" for wet.

[Rosscofat]

hmmm I have minon front and Rear on now. new. Just are these tires even good for whistler? or will they run bad? I will be running 40psi almost always in both tires. at whistler or shore.

[Wayne P]

I agree, the Comp16 in great in wet and tacky conditions. It's not so great in the loose dry, but still works.

Let's see what Michelin has to say about tire direction...

http://two-wheels.michelin.com/2w/front/affich.jsp?codeRubrique=8092004154751&codePage=8092004154751_03022006113300&lang=EN


Des

Keep in mind that they are talking about climbing/XC type riding for running a rear tire backwards.

Ramped side of the knob hits the ground first for front and rear tires for riding DH.

[Nelson]

Excellent choice Ross. Definitely put the 16 on the front and the 24 on the rear. Both in the suggested direction.

I'm not so happy with my new comp 16. It feels soft and mushy compared to the comp 24 I used to run up front. When the 16 is worn out, I'll be putting a comp 24 back on the front and running it in the reverse direction for way better braking.

And.... They're black! No jiffy marker required!

Do what this guy said, but run them backwards.

P.s. Thanks Wayne.

[Desloc]

hmmm I have minon front and Rear on now. new. Just are these tires even good for whistler? or will they run bad? I will be running 40psi almost always in both tires. at whistler or shore.

Run your Minions in the dry and the Comp16/24 reversed for everything else.


Des

[Rosscofat]

ok then :) thanks :) so as backup tires both run them reverse :) sounds complicated but good thanks :)

[C.Lee]

desloc.. big man with 24psi in tire? whoa! haha kidding. but seriously?

[Desloc]

It's all about how hard you are on rims... well, and the fact that some tires will pinch at anything less than 30psi :)

For example...

I found a small nail stuck in my front tire(Comp16) after crossing ring road on SFU before starting Nicoles. I left it in the tire because the tubes/patches were in a safe place... the car.

It had little to no air in it by the time I hit the bottom. There was no damage to the rim and the tire stayed on without issue.

24psi in a front tire with solid sidewalls is not a low number. In the dry I run between 25psi-30psi in front and 30-35psi in the back.

and... 215lbs isn't that big ;)


Des

[Ooh, Shiny Bits!]

I herd something odd about the comp 16... basically that you run it backwards because thats the way the tread is meant to run but the mouldings used to make them were made incorrectly and the arrow points the wrong way! Can anyone verify that? Also for this year it may have changed anyway because the Comp 16 is now the Michelin Tribes DH16 AT and the 24 is the Michelin Tribes DH24 AT.

Back to the point... i ran 16's both front and rear briefly last year in the dry and they rolled really quickly with them both on backwards... The only complaints i have are that the metal bead was actually seperating from the tire on the pair i was using and the compound feels really quite soft (not a complaint as such... just means i have to buy them more often!) :)

[Wayne P]

I herd something odd about the comp 16... basically that you run it backwards because thats the way the tread is meant to run but the mouldings used to make them were made incorrectly and the arrow points the wrong way! Can anyone verify that?

That's what I've been saying for oh...about 5-6 years now. I had 2 comp16's in my hand with arrows going in different directions.

Anyone who tells you that the comp run with the sqaure edge of the knob hitting the ground first is obviously smokin' too much.

[C.Lee]

It's all about how hard you are on rims... well, and the fact that some tires will pinch at anything less than 30psi :)

For example...

I found a small nail stuck in my front tire(Comp16) after crossing ring road on SFU before starting Nicoles. I left it in the tire because the tubes/patches were in a safe place... the car.

It had little to no air in it by the time I hit the bottom. There was no damage to the rim and the tire stayed on without issue.

24psi in a front tire with solid sidewalls is not a low number. In the dry I run between 25psi-30psi in front and 30-35psi in the back.

and... 215lbs isn't that big ;)


Des


but but.. your SOO tall LOL ahaa. yeah.. solid sidewalls rock.. i love my intense 909 fro dh. its pretty darn thick but heavy. =)

[Rosscofat]

watch out for that 909 my sidewalls got a tear... even at 40psi.. less then 1 whistler season was pretty pissed when my 3 yearold arrow widebite 2.3 was still going strong :(

[Midas]

I need pics.

[RITALIN]

get short trackers for in the summer...they would make ur bike look 10X sicker swear to god...they made stubs bike look so much nicer

[Desloc]

watch out for that 909 my sidewalls got a tear... even at 40psi.. less then 1 whistler season was pretty pissed when my 3 yearold arrow widebite 2.3 was still going strong :(

That's funny that you mention the Arrow Widebites because this summer the Michis are coming off and I'm going to try to get my hands on the new 26x2.50" SRS-E casing Arrow Ramped Bites. As 'light' as a Comp16 2.5, but a claimed 400g lighter than the regular Ramped Bite 26x2.50" SRS... http://www.arrowracing.com/treads/rampedbite.html

I have never run an Arrow combo before, but everyone I've spoken to that has run the Arrow 24x2.75" SRS as a rear tire, loves it. 47(SRS) duro vs 50 duro found on the popular Kenda Nevegal 24x2.5". I know of two bros running 24" rear tires that won't go back to Nevegals after running the SRS 2.75". This has now become the tire that they will be running year round and I can understand why. Personally I've seen the Arrow grip to things using 30+psi that the Kenda would slide off at 25psi. Wear time of the two is comparible even though the Arrow uses a softer compound. The Arrow 24" is about 130g heavier than the Kenda too though, but that's pretty minimal. So there's a few of my reasons for strongly considering the 2.5 SRS-E for the dry season.


Des

[Rosscofat]

my widebite 26" 2.3 was like 70duro HARD HARD... 3 years running haha best tire i ever used

[Oldfart]

That's what I've been saying for oh...about 5-6 years now. I had 2 comp16's in my hand with arrows going in different directions.

Anyone who tells you that the comp run with the sqaure edge of the knob hitting the ground first is obviously smokin' too much.


Phhhhtttttsssss. cough cough cough. he he he. Hey let's like, go to Starschmucks and like order like 40 fuckin' biscoti man I'm like starvin'.

[Wayne P]

Stoner.

[peachy-B]

for whistler: i'm removing the comp16 in the front soon due to drier weather. thinking comp 24 front and back. yes or no? the other option is nevegal (front) / comp-24 (rear). what say you?

[scottvelez]

Let's see what Michelin has to say about tire direction...

http://two-wheels.michelin.com/2w/front/affich.jsp?codeRubrique=8092004154751&codePage=8092004154751_03022006113300&lang=EN

I read that page twice... still couldn't figure out what they were saying.

[Dantes Inferno]

Both tires reversed direction or ramped side first like every other tire and it will give you a faster rolling tire with better braking.

On the rear if you do alot of climbing is the only time i would run square edge forward and thats only for loose or mucky climbing.