My new bike...

[Neo]

OMG ITS A DUALLY :eek:

2003 Giant AC-1 w/ Swinger 4-way and Sherman firefly.

http://photos.nsmb.com/files/2/1/7/2/9/ac-1_04.jpg

http://photos.nsmb.com/files/2/1/7/2/9/ac-1_05.jpg

http://photos.nsmb.com/files/2/1/7/2/9/ac-1_03.jpg

http://photos.nsmb.com/browseimages.php?do=member&imageuser=21729


can't wait to replace the weak ass hayes with some hope mono-minis or avid juicys... :)

[spookymilk]

shuttling is ghey :lol:

ps-get Saints...I highly reccomend

[Neo]

shuttling IS ghey :lol: notice that i have it set for 5.5" travel and not the 6.5"...

no i don't need saints. the rf northshores will be fine for now. plus, i'm not a hucker so i'd probably get the XT's.

[spookymilk]

shuttling IS ghey :lol:

no i don't need saints. the rf northshores will be fine for now. plus, i'm not a hucker so i'd probably get the XT's.

i'm talking brakes old man

[Neo]

i'm talking brakes old man

do i need to switch hubs though? i thought you had to run the saint hub, derailler, etc. to run the saint brakes?

[spookymilk]

no, they give you the 6-bolt xt rotors and the center-lock rotors or whatever they're called

PS-http://photos.nsmb.com/files/2/0/6/2/0/IMG_0496.JPG

Sun Ringle Abbah hubs

PPS-welcome to team Giant

[Neo]

are they better than the juicy's? how much will they set me back? i love hopes the best, but sometimes its hell getting service or parts for them, so i'm looking at other options...

[dudski]

no saint brakes come with 4 rotors to a set.....two interlock and two 6 bolt. nutty good brakes. living like a true old man' reppin the grip shift i see. and i mean old man like when you call your dad old man. old man

[spookymilk]

are they better than the juicy's? how much will they set me back? i love hopes the best, but sometimes its hell getting service or parts for them, so i'm looking at other options...

are you sure you're not from PB? :lol:

I got my set (front and rear, with levers) for just over $500. I like them more than Juicy's but that's just me, if you really feel the need for all the adjustments, then there's no other choice then juciys. I went for the brake with the most stopping power and didn't weight a ton (hope 4 and 6-pots=nono)

[Neo]

:lol: well the grip shift was on there from before and i kinda like them. they shift really well. i'm gonna check out the saint brakes but only if they aren't super expensive...

[Neo]

no, they give you the 6-bolt xt rotors and the center-lock rotors or whatever they're called

PS-http://photos.nsmb.com/files/2/0/6/2/0/IMG_0496.JPG

Sun Ringle Abbah hubs

PPS-welcome to team Giant

holy f**K nice rig! i love those bikes :)

the only hopes i'd get would be the minis. but now i have to check out the saints.

[Hip Hop!]

you should have got a kona like dave watson!

[Air Supplier]

Stick with the hayes, I have had the saint and hayes brakes and the hayes are better.

[Neo]

Stick with the hayes, I have had the saint and hayes brakes and the hayes are better.

really? i just find the hayes have no "feel" to them - it's like on or off. but i'm probably just so used to my old hopes with the wicked modulation. the hayes have power i have to admit. i really like having more modulation.

[SkunkworkS]

8" Juicy 5s go for $180 each. Way cheaper than all the other brakes listed. But just as good.

[M@M]

Stick with the hayes, I have had the saint and hayes brakes and the hayes are better.
i never thought id see somebody say that. hayes generally....suck. well, not suck, but compared to saints, they do. Saints have awsome power and modulation, which is quite lacking in hayes.

[Neo]

i tend to ride mostly shore, so i'd sacrifice a bit of power for modulation and reliability.

[Neo]

these are what i really want:

http://www.hopetech.com/products/hyd_07.htm

or these http://www.hopetech.com/products/hyd_08.htm


but i've also heard good things about these, and they might be cheaper:

http://www.sram.com/en/avid/discbrakes/juicy5.php

[Wayne P]

Hayes were one of the best 5+ years ago, but that's because everything else on the market sucked. They haven't really changed their design in all that time, yet there are new players who have totally surpassed Hayes. Avid, Shimano, Magura, new Hopes, Gator, etc. Hayes aren't easier to bleed either - we all know how to do it by now!

I would swap out those brakes for a set of Juicy 5's, 7's, or if you're on budget, Deores or Louise FR.

[Neo]

yea i'm liking the look of the juicy 7's and 5's.

[white ri0t]

last year's technology at today's prices!

[Chunk]

dont get home mini's. Thats what im using right now and they just lack power. I found a guy who i am gonna trade my minis for his M4's though, so ill be good after that.

[Universe]

shuttling IS ghey :lol: notice that i have it set for 5.5" travel and not the 6.5"...



If you had any faith in how your bike pedals, that is a dumb-ass statement.

I'd invite you to ride, but you are across the moat. Sellout.

ps: don't waste your time...get the saint brakes

[Neo]

If you had any faith in how your bike pedals, that is a dumb-ass statement.

I'd invite you to ride, but you are across the moat. Sellout.

ps: don't waste you time...get the saint brakes


oh believe me, i intend on going with the longer travel at some point soon :lol: and i'm sure i'll be shuttling at least a few times this year so it can't really be that ghey!

[Universe]

Ah ha!

Congrats on the bike.

[VancouverIslguy]

woah, I thought I'd never see this day Blaine on a dually. Whatever happened to the 243?

[Neo]

i sold it to some sooke boys :lol:

[skimtb1]

Juicy 5's = funny noise and the bomb shit:)

[Trini-dad72]

I like it Dante. Looks good.

As for brakes, I run what I have on the bike cause I can't afford any better. But if I had the money, I'd be buying Juciy's for sure! Although, I have thought of stealing Elaine's XT 4-pot brakes, and putting the Hayes on her bike for some time now;)

[Neo]

wtf, i see in some places the saints are cheaper than the avids...

[Universe]

Then you know what to do.

[matt shaw]

wtf, i see in some places the saints are cheaper than the avids...


Do they come with the levers though? A few sets I have seen don't.

[Neo]

Do they come with the levers though? A few sets I have seen don't.

good point.

[Rosscofat]

hopes are nice

[Adam West]

i sold it to some sooke boys :lol:
:love:

[spookymilk]

good point.

The fact is, Saints are still better brakes.

[amg]

Just out of curiousity, is that the original fork? Mine came with a firefly, not a flick, were the different sizes were spec'd differently?

Enjoy the bike!

[Neo]

my bad, it is a firefly. i dont know why i said flick.

[Lady Gravity]

my vote is for juicy's. never tried saints but dont really care to since i'm happy with my 5's

oh and nice bike btw :D

[Chunk]

my vote is for juicy's. never tried saints but dont really care to since i'm happy with my 5's

oh and nice bike btw :D
Its funny thats what all the people who are still using hayes say.

"my vote is for hayes. Never tried saints but dont really care to since im happy with my hayes"

Except most of the time they will leave out the fact that they havent ever tried anything else. :lol:

[Universe]

I had Hayes for 5 years. Now I ride Saint and I'll never go back to Hayes (unless the come up with a new/better design).

[Neo]

well for now its gotta be hayes. the power is wicked. if i could get the pads from rubbing the rear disc i'd be happy.

[Neo]

these are sex: http://www.sram.com/en/avid/discbrakes/juicy7.php

but these are kick ass:

http://bike.shimano.com/media/images/cycling/products/bikecomponents/BR/BR-M800_popup_v1_m56577569830549995.jpg

[Universe]

With Dangerboy levers...

http://www.universe.bookerb.com/lever.jpg

[Lady Gravity]

Its funny thats what all the people who are still using hayes say.

"my vote is for hayes. Never tried saints but dont really care to since im happy with my hayes"

Except most of the time they will leave out the fact that they havent ever tried anything else. :lol:

so far i have used hayes, and juicys. maybe if i was spawnsrd and had shitloads of cash i'd have a set of every brake that's out there, however, i'm not and i dont, so i'm just offering my opinion fwiw.