Whistler and stupid people!

[Supervokes]

Well i just got back from a fabulous week at Whistler, but have to comment on something I have observed too much last week.

Some VERY stupid people.

I saw four injuries in four days that involved young kids (under 18) who needed medical attention because ........ wait for it ........ they had no body armor on!!

At least wear arm and leg armor and quit trying to look cool in your shorts and t-shirts. I am tired of seeing you people taking such stupid risks and cannot feel one bit sympathetic for any of you, because almost EVERY injury I have ever seen could have easily been prevented had armor been worn!

[.Robinson]

w/e they can learn the hard way.....


and i hate stupid ppl riding whistler that stand on landings of jumps with there bike and somehow think there not in the way?....

[Hip Hop!]

watching crankworx with a broken ankle, some tard almost sat on my ankle. but his friend grabbed him right before he sat on it.

stupid whistler people

[Hip Hop!]

who ever built the hotels are stupid to. theres like 8 hotels in 1

[PhotoFyffer]

well ok, good and no. it is 35C out I usally wear full on chest armour, but leg has to do right now. way to hot out for that other stuff. But a fullface is a must.

[Beyr]

and i hate stupid ppl riding whistler that stand on landings of jumps with there bike and somehow think there not in the way?....

Friggin A, there was some kid standing on the long mellow table at the end of A-line, I slammed on the brakes and he barely even moved to let me by. What a idiot...

[S-Dawg]

im assuming u guys have skied/snowboarded there. You wanna talk about stupid people. As soon as u get half way down the mountain its like taking you life in your hands.

[RideCraft]

biking is a high risk sport, if you can't handle that people will get hurt doing it, (body armour or not) maybe you should take up shuffle board or something.

[ShoreIH]

im assuming u guys have skied/snowboarded there. You wanna talk about stupid people. As soon as u get half way down the mountain its like taking you life in your hands.


I learned that the hard way..ala korean tourist running you down...then over.

[Mark_H]

im assuming u guys have skied/snowboarded there. You wanna talk about stupid people. As soon as u get half way down the mountain its like taking you life in your hands.

i worked at cypress this winter and you would be amazed how many people ran into others or who are just riding totally out of control its quite amazing. They provide some entertainment for the staff until they hurt someone

[Darkjedi]

They should do tourist education that rent bikes and try every trail without know what its about. I had one group of tourists that decided to take pictures right on a bridge merging into fantastic??? WTF. They almost took a picture of my Demo9 slamming into papa standing beside little Huan....

[AnTi-TrAiL_nAzI]

They should do tourist education that rent bikes and try every trail without know what its about. I had one group of tourists that decided to take pictures right on a bridge merging into fantastic??? WTF. They almost took a picture of my Demo9 slamming into papa standing beside little Huan....
:lol: that is gold!

[axx]

Stupid people, when will they learn to wear armour

[AnTi-TrAiL_nAzI]

Stupid people, when will they learn to wear armour
i know, especialy those 'cool' kids with thier half face helmets!

[Supervokes]

biking is a high risk sport, if you can't handle that people will get hurt doing it, (body armour or not) maybe you should take up shuffle board or something.

Obviously you think its "cool" not to wear armor.

We all realize that biking is a high risk sport, but every effort should be made to minimize those risks. For example, not trying to perform stunts above your ability and WEARING ARMOR.

Almost EVERY injury I see is some young kid who does not have body armor on. I cannot tell you how many times I have ridden by somebody with blood spewing out of their arm or leg. STUPID!

I have crashed many times similar to the same people I have seen, but I wear armor and usually just dust myself off and walk away. Not close the trails down and lie there with blood spewing all over!

Oh and another "STUPID" move I see in Whistler ..... Here's news to you all that collect in large groups halfway down the hill (like snowboarders). When you see a rider wearing a pink jersey, chances are they are a female rider. Do not jump on the trail directly behind them and wonder why you encounter a slow rider on the trail. Maybe if you actually wait 30 seconds ... it would give the rider enough of a head start and not make them worry about 5 or more stupid people coming up behind them quickly--- more stupid people.

[RITALIN]

yeah ian u wont be looking like a lil fetus for much longer without wearing a full face...(knock on wood)

[teague]

I was up last week with a friend, and have definitely learned the value of body armour. I crashed hard on the big rock drop on Dirt Merchant (right after the entrance to rutabega). Tried to angle off the nub on the right side of the tip of the rock, didn't take nearly enough angle and clipped my pedal on the rock on the way down, nose dived and ended up in that creek/ravine on the right side of the run, looking up the run. Strangely enough, i was fine except for that my elbow hit something hard enough for the mesh on the inside of my pressure suit the slighty break skin, and some nasty tears on my t-shirt at the shoulder (that would have hurt too). I also put i nick gash in one of the plates of the spine protector, from landing back against the jacked rock on the backside of the ravine. So Yeah, if you've got it wear it.

[Sharon]

What kills me are the people on old school xc bikes with no armour but a full face helmet????

[Straw]

who ever built the hotels are stupid to. theres like 8 hotels in 1

Yes, I hate that. There are three companies in the one I work at, and then you have Strata to deal with too. Things would be so much easier if it was one hotel company per building.

[bcbud]

mmmm....Fairmont....good coompany...

[Gex]

my pressure has saved me plenty at whistler but when its 80+ out there is nothing like just some leg armor and a full face when cruising down aline. Just be a little more careful.

[enduramil]

Used to ski Whistler all the time and had fun. Lost interest when Harmony chair was put in and stopped skiing.

Unfortunatly stupid humans are more abundant now who are way over there head. They all think that because they saw Dangerous Dan ride this morning by 5pm will have his skill. I guess when you can memorize the physics 101 text you are an expert at everything.

What ever happened to being a student of a sport. To learn over time the skills to ride well and decrease chances of being hurt.

[phat-phur-knee]

^^^^^^^^^
Hey Enduramil
By the sounds of a couple of your posts, you & i have a fair bit in common as far as Whistler goes. Maybe I know u from those days. PM me if u want.

[gooch]

^^^^^^^^^
Hey Enduramil
By the sounds of a couple of your posts, you & i have a fair bit in common as far as Whistler goes. Maybe I know u from those days. PM me if u want.

get a room you two

[Jay T.]

jeeezzz guys, if you dont have a big dh bike with 10" of travel and so much armor on that you cant move then dont ride whistler!!! how hard is it to understand that

[enduramil]

jeeezzz guys, if you dont have a big dh bike with 10" of travel and so much armor on that you cant move then dont ride whistler!!! how hard is it to understand that

I think we are all missing the bigger problem here. That is a basic lack of common sense and ettiquete on the trails. Part of the problem is that alot of humans are never explained the trail rules both written and unwritten.

Sadly most buy or rent a bike, then simply jump on the lift and ride. They use the trails with ignorance to the ettiquete and do stupid things. Then bitch that they almost got run over by another rider.

Most need to be taught what to do and not to do. From my experience most seem to get it, though there is that daily handfull that remind me why some species simply kill and eat their young.

By the way I ride a hard tail and descend quite well.

[RideCraft]

Obviously you think its "cool" not to wear armor.

We all realize that biking is a high risk sport, but every effort should be made to minimize those risks. For example, not trying to perform stunts above your ability and WEARING ARMOR.



I wear leg/shin pads ocasionally, both times at whistler I wore it. I certainly don't think it's cool not to wear it but 90% of the time I find it to constricting and hot for normal riding, I also know that wearing armour is probably not going to save me for major injury. Armour is not going to stop me for breaking my ankle,leg,arm,wrist,shoulder, or neck.

[Jay T.]

I think we are all missing the bigger problem here. That is a basic lack of common sense and ettiquete on the trails. Part of the problem is that alot of humans are never explained the trail rules both written and unwritten.

Sadly most buy or rent a bike, then simply jump on the lift and ride. They use the trails with ignorance to the ettiquete and do stupid things. Then bitch that they almost got run over by another rider.

Most need to be taught what to do and not to do. From my experience most seem to get it, though there is that daily handfull that remind me why some species simply kill and eat their young.

By the way I ride a hard tail and descend quite well.

i am just being a smart ass, i want tog et my hardtail to whistler, i hate riding a dually, but i agree with everything you said above

[skimtb1]

I wear leg/shin pads ocasionally, both times at whistler I wore it. I certainly don't think it's cool not to wear it but 90% of the time I find it to constricting and hot for normal riding, I also know that wearing armour is probably not going to save me for major injury. Armour is not going to stop me for breaking my ankle,leg,arm,wrist,shoulder, or neck.

armour might not help for joints, but it certainly helps for arms and legs. its not gonna stop twisting breaks and shit but it will help for straight on contact

[phat-phur-knee]

Hey Porndog er i mean gooch MYOFB

[enduramil]

One big advantage to having started MTBing in the 80's is local knowledge. Plus having a shoreisized hardtail is being able to head to other parts of thearea and ride.


Once I move back to Van can't wait to ride Whistler again especially those DH's that can only be accessed by grunt work. One big plus is don't have to worry about buddy and his 25 family members on the trail.

[Rosscofat]

Ian U Dont Wear Body Armor

[patrolskid]

whoa enduramil , you are almost bitter and twisted enough to be a pro . . . .
















patroller









true ?











either way , welcome to the BB , you'll have lots of fun . . .

[enduramil]

Skid Work for a parks and Rec here in mind numbing TO watching a adult day care facility, oops I mean weight room. Was never a patroller though if I recall correctly was a pain when was racing.

Something about adult daycare and this thread are very similar.

Can't wait to go for a bit of a night ride tonight to clear the old head.

[Roasted]

who ever built the hotels are stupid to. theres like 8 hotels in 1

Huh....I assume you are refering to 8 different companies running rooms in one hotel...nature of the beast. No one wants to invest the money to own a hotel so building companies resort to strata concept to build them. Worst situation EVER.

[enduramil]

Huh....I assume you are refering to 8 different companies running rooms in one hotel...nature of the beast. No one wants to invest the money to own a hotel so building companies resort to strata concept to build them. Worst situation EVER.

Still a little slow on the learning curve aren't they. 10 years ago the muni where arguing about this and doing nothing. Couldn't even get facilities up for employees, some of them had to resort to sleeping in a tent on some guys balcony in winter.

Muni learned like like a rock and still aren't. Everytime I read the loacl papers from there it's the same repeated problems.

Man, my cola has a higher learning curve.

[Supervokes]

I wear leg/shin pads ocasionally, both times at whistler I wore it. I certainly don't think it's cool not to wear it but 90% of the time I find it to constricting and hot for normal riding, I also know that wearing armour is probably not going to save me for major injury. Armour is not going to stop me for breaking my ankle,leg,arm,wrist,shoulder, or neck.

You are right that armor is definitely not going to 100% protect you from a major injury but it MAY help. I hate to see or hear of anybody who has a major injury. Nobody likes that. What ticks me off are the people who lie on the trail with the arms and legs all scraped open, full of rocks, and blood everywhere. I can't feel sympathetic at all to these people, because injury's such as scrapes, low impact elbow and knee hits can be avoided by wearing some form or armor.

Most injuries and trails closures are the result of some young kid with no arm or leg protection on. When are they going to get it????

Its the avoidable injuries such as scrapes and bumps that really make me shake my head.

[teague]

Probably at least 90% of injuries are minor, though still painful, and could have been prevented or reduced by body armour, which is why i wear mine. I have never found my armour to be very uncomfortable either, besides maybe a few warm minutes in the lift lines, which is no big deal. I don't think it restricts movement at all either. And I am not wearing super expensive stuff, just a 661 pressure suit sp-1, and 661 race-lite knee/shin guards.

[parksvilleguy]

for rentals some general armour should be mandatory much like a helmet is including gloves. i've only gotten a sprained thumb and wrist from whistler which there isnt much to keep that from happening unless i maybe wear my old rollerbladin wrist guards

[NooNer]

and i hate stupid ppl riding whistler that stand on landings of jumps with there bike and somehow think there not in the way?....

hit them. tough love. stupid people get what they deserve. 200lb of rolling mass will teach a serious lesson.

[.Robinson]

hit them. tough love. stupid people get what they deserve. 200lb of rolling mass will teach a serious lesson.


i agree with that but i dotn want to get hurt......but the weekend of crank worx i did hit some one that was standign with 4 of his friends on a landing on D1 and he blamed me and said"its surprising how many people use there eyes around here"

i was shocked with how stupid this guy was,and cause of him i re injured my wrist from falling,so i just told him to stay of the fuckign landings.......

atleast my biek took the guy out so i was kinda stoked

and when we were leaving my brother skidded next to them and covered them in a huge cloud of dust,so that was also hilarious

[shorelocal]

How many of the pros rippin' the Slopestyle contest at Crankworx were wearing armour? That's who's setting the example for what's "cool".

[enduramil]

I assume these are the same types who would stand on the street at say Cambie and West Broadway while waiting for the walk signal. Then snivel and whine after they got run over by a vehicle.


As I mentioned a general lack of common sense. I learned from skiing that if you are stopped make sure you can see both above you and below. Basically stop just before the lip of the pitch and keep your self out of the way of others coming through.

And never, never stop in the transition or below the pitch's lip. Unless you have crashed of course.

Basically be aware and protect yourself not expect others too. Similar to that Defensive thing taught in driving.

If you can't follow that then you really should not be on the hill.

[Battlecat]

I just ride in a sleevless t-shirt and shorts.

used to have the full on long pants and black hoodie :lol:

[mbking]

I made a no armour mistake... first time in mountains this summer didn't think to much of it when I get there my friends all had full dianese armour. and I had well...jack all... boy falling on rocks sucks ALOT.

[Carbuncle]

my pressure has saved me plenty at whistler but when its 80+ out there is nothing like just some leg armor and a full face when cruising down aline. Just be a little more careful.

I'm sure the poor bastard I came across Sunday thought the same thing: I came off those progessive graded 4 jump/drops after Crank It Up and as I landed I looked downslope and saw a big cloud of dust with a helmet sticking out. After bud could talk and answer what day it was, he looked ruefully at his bleeding elbow and lower back and my armor and said something like "I have some of that..." Healing vibes to you, bro, I hope you didn't hurt your back as bad as it looked...

[ghostrider]

Hey,
my wife and i don't wear body armour either...then again, we DO have common sense and stick to the green and blue runs, and if time allows it, we get clear out of the way when the faster riders come through, and yes, we get off the landings to some drop at all times.
There's room at Whistler for everyone, but yeah, common sense is desperately needed.