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nsfreeriders
08-01-2005, 03:17 PM
benders no longer on the banshee team page??? is he off...




Brad Dawg
08-01-2005, 03:39 PM
benders no longer on the banshee team page??? is he off...

yes, he probably rides for canfield or somthing now.... i think they made him a bike....

they kicked him off...

nsfreeriders
08-01-2005, 03:45 PM
ye they did build him a huck hog not long ago.

mudpuppy
08-01-2005, 04:24 PM
Yeah, Canfield built him a bike...but the story at the time was he was still on Banshee and all was good.

M@M
08-01-2005, 05:29 PM
did his name just recently leave the banshee riders list?

nsfreeriders
08-01-2005, 11:51 PM
i think so?

synchro
08-02-2005, 12:00 AM
and all this matters because?

nsfreeriders
08-02-2005, 12:01 AM
just posted on NSF ,

Benders also no longer on smith team

Midas
08-02-2005, 12:03 AM
still drinks kavu though.

nsfreeriders
08-02-2005, 12:24 AM
thats the main thing.

intresting to see if he just fades away now or comes back with a bunch of new sponsors..

nsfreeriders
08-02-2005, 02:31 PM
this is the low down from pip the head hucho from banshee

"Hey elbry,



Good to hear from you again.

How’s the summer been over in the uk?

I hope you’re getting tons of sick riding.



We parted ways with bender in the spring but we’re still buddies.

I was just talking to him yesterday and he’s stoked up big time for an upcoming comp at silverton Colorado.



We’ve added a bunch of hugely talented riders to our roster this year but we haven’t updated our web site yet.

Included are grant allan from Australia and dangerous dan and his flow rider team.

Dalifted1
08-02-2005, 05:28 PM
so klassen goes to yeti and the flow crew drops them intresting

Tonestar
08-02-2005, 05:35 PM
so klassen goes to yeti and the flow crew drops them intresting

Yeti had a 2 year deal with the Flow Riders, it ended, they used the money to sign Super T instead. Less bikes to supply, more exposure with Super T. Ryan Hayes is still riding for Yeti, he was on a seperate contract for the Flow Riders.

mudpuppy
08-02-2005, 07:53 PM
so klassen goes to yeti and the flow crew drops them intresting

Yeah....Yeti and the flow show seperated a while ago...good to hear that pip is hookin them up.

Professor Frink
08-02-2005, 08:02 PM
I doubt Bender will ever make it big again. He hasnt been doing anything revolutionary to the sport. The movement of freeride has gone from big drops to big drops with big tricks. Things that Bender cant pull off.

white ri0t
08-02-2005, 08:06 PM
I doubt Bender will ever make it big again. He hasnt been doing anything revolutionary to the sport. The movement of freeride has gone from big drops to big drops with big tricks. Things that Bender cant pull off.
I don't remember him being "big". Only...lame.

SubPlop
08-02-2005, 08:10 PM
I don't remember him being "big". Only...lame.

That comments pretty damn lame too, its not even worth starting another damn Bender argument though, check Pinkbike if you want to get into that.


Glad Dangers got something going with Banshee.

chad

Get_Dirty
08-02-2005, 08:58 PM
Bender, bender, bender. dude it's over. nobody cares about 50 foot hucks anymore. we want to see some talent. time to hang up the Dainiese

bunny
08-02-2005, 09:19 PM
it's good that i'm still naive enough to believe that all of you slaggin him are that much better. and bigger.

RITALIN
08-02-2005, 09:29 PM
i like ur avy...it distracted me from ur post
wtf bender brought attention to our sport...fucking someone throwing down on some skinnies or singletrack wasnt what made it into like max x or anyshow like that...he gave mountain bikigng the exposure it needed

Hip Hop!
08-02-2005, 10:15 PM
bender rules! and he built the line that one kyle strait rampage

.Robinson
08-02-2005, 11:05 PM
benders off banshee probably cause they dont have a 12" travel bike and wasnt able to huck huge like he likes

nsfreeriders
08-02-2005, 11:42 PM
benders a icon, i love to see a small solid section in a movie with bender stomping a bunch of 30-45 foot dead drops. But i think people just wait for the crashes these days like they do with enslow in fmx. Long live bender...

ditchpig
08-03-2005, 09:06 AM
I went down to Silverton Mountain (Colorado) this past weekend, and talked to Bender for a bit. He was building a 40 foot gap over a creek for the freeride comp this Sat. He's living in Silverton and working down there building trails. He's still riding on Banshee bikes, but I dont think he has the "hook up" any more. He's a super friendly guy, really stoked about the sport - I think he's happy to fade into the background a bit, and still be involved.

seand
08-03-2005, 09:27 AM
josh is a class act...simple as that! As long as he is on a bike, doing his thing the way he wants, he is a seriously happy camper. I'm stoked that he found another sponsor who will treat him as well as pip&crew did :)

to all those who slag him, get over yourselves. You dont like threads about him? Dont click on them!

Like it or not, Josh is an icon for the sport...he was going huge before anyone else. His time in the spotlight has come and gone, much like it does for anyone in any sport who doesnt stay on the forefront of their profession. I can't wait to see what he creates in CO.

Farmer
08-03-2005, 09:46 AM
bender can still go bigger than most, if not all of you, so i wouldn't talk

nsfreeriders
08-03-2005, 09:47 AM
ye we should have photos from the comp next week on nsf

Bryce
08-03-2005, 12:48 PM
whether you like bender or not, ya gotta give him credit for doing stuff on a MTB that no one else had ever done. Not many of us can say that.

Tony
08-03-2005, 03:27 PM
Love em or hate him... he's still fun to watch. I still pop in the vids waiting for his section to come up. I love watchin that dude... land it or not. Is he a hack? Sure. But so am I. Huge hucks might be boring to some... but only the ones that have to follow the latest trend in mtbing and pretend like their at the top of the heap. I mean really.. how many of you (really) have done a 40ft dead drop? (I know there's a few so if you say you have, please provide pics.) Personally, it scares the crap out of me. I know that being fluid and pulling backflips or whatever is cool right now. (maybe it's the bmx influence) But history repeats itself and I predict that sooner or later going huge straight down will be back in fashion. We all started somewhere and Bender was doing crazy shit, crazy even by todays standards, back when nobody else was.

my 2 ¢

T.

mint
08-03-2005, 05:24 PM
'Yes' for Bender
'No' for haters

diddler
08-03-2005, 10:37 PM
If you can't respect a guy who chucks himself off of a 50ft drop, crash hard, push back up and do it agian and agian and agian. doesnt know the meaning of hard core. You wouldn't do it especially when no one else has so don't kid youself. He is the Seth Enslow of mountian biking and the sport needs guys like him.

nsfreeriders
08-04-2005, 12:07 AM
benders at silverton freeride fest this weekend if you want to see him.

i think your right, dead drops are not the big thing right now, but i think it will come around, hell my 243 dead drop photos got a lot more hits than if i had put gap jump.. Drops are cool and more tech than the haters think when you get over 25+ feet.. respect j.b and how long his been doing it.

Tony
08-04-2005, 07:41 AM
Honestly, I love big drops... probably because the potential for disaster is huge. I mean, shit man, it's takes big brass balls to go even half a huge as bender has. So what if the guys can't do a backflip-tailwhip, maybe those guys who can do that can't do 50 footers. It's all relative. The way guys wow the crowds with bmx inspired mtb tricks these days is the same way guys doing huge drops or riding mile high skinnies wowed me when it was cool. I say do what you like and have fun.

Tony
08-04-2005, 07:48 AM
Plus, I noticed the trend beginning to swing away from huge drops after Bender couldn't complete the Jah Drop. Maybe people saw the limitations of the "drop" in general and moved away from it into another area of biking that was more creative and/or progressive.

nsfreeriders
08-04-2005, 09:57 AM
your right tony, before the jah drop you had guys like super t stomping all his old drops, then after the jah nobody stepped it up ...

Criminal Robots
08-04-2005, 10:19 AM
your right tony, before the jah drop you had guys like super t stomping all his old drops, then after the jah nobody stepped it up ...

word on the streets...

i was talking to super t a couple months ago and hes considering doing the jah drop, bunch of dudes what to groom it and get that shit dialed....

seand
08-04-2005, 10:25 AM
i was standing ontop of jah last summer wondering why anyone thought it was a good idea to ride a bike off of it. If klassen wants to drop it, they better do some serious tranny work on that thing. It is flaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaat for how tall of a drop it is.

it would, however, be a fun powder huck :)

Tony
08-04-2005, 10:54 AM
word on the streets...

i was talking to super t a couple months ago and hes considering doing the jah drop, bunch of dudes what to groom it and get that shit dialed....

Dear God make that happen!!! To me, that thing is a deathwish. It's a ulagy waiting to happen. You wait, Tyler will stomp that muther and every kid from here to texas will he hittin hucks again. :dizzy: :dizzy:

I guess part of my facination with hucking is simply because I can't do it. The biggest thing I've ever tried was like 6"... and I became the human lawndart. (sad but true) I'm sure I would get dizzy just looking over the edge of that monster. I can't imagine, unless there were some heavy drugs involved, how Bender got the nuts to attempt it... a bunch of times at that.

T.

Tony
08-04-2005, 11:10 AM
Dear God make that happen!!! To me, that thing is a deathwish. It's a ulagy waiting to happen. You wait, Tyler will stomp that muther and every kid from here to texas will he hittin hucks again. :dizzy: :dizzy:

I guess part of my facination with hucking is simply because I can't do it. The biggest thing I've ever tried was like 6"... and I became the human lawndart. (sad but true) I'm sure I would get dizzy just looking over the edge of that monster. I can't imagine, unless there were some heavy drugs involved, how Bender got the nuts to attempt it... a bunch of times at that.

T.


Buwaaahahahaha!!! 6"...... might as well have been.

Sorry I meant 6'.... and it still blows.

SpeedFreak
08-04-2005, 11:25 AM
The Jah drop IMHO is totally do-able, but yeah the tranny would need some serious work. For anyone who was at last RedBull there where was one big ass drops that riders like Kinrade and Canfield where whaling off the tranny they where hitting was close to the Jah drop.

diddler
08-04-2005, 02:20 PM
If you think about it the sport and videos are starting to turn into oversized BMX vids. It seems that style and tricks are more important than lines and terrain. Soon every mountain will be a smooth groomed trail with a bunch of tables and we will be complaining if there is the odd rut or bump. We won't need suspension and you will be judged only by the amount of tricks you can do.

Freestyler
08-04-2005, 02:32 PM
This thread is awesome!!!11!!one!1

It should be a sticky,
am i RITE??///?

:dizzy:

Tony
08-04-2005, 02:51 PM
If you think about it the sport and videos are starting to turn into oversized BMX vids. It seems that style and tricks are more important than lines and terrain. Soon every mountain will be a smooth groomed trail with a bunch of tables and we will be complaining if there is the odd rut or bump. We won't need suspension and you will be judged only by the amount of tricks you can do.


I couldn't agree more. Using the terrain as it comes, it's allways something new... not just the same trick you've done 500 times and mastered. I mean if you look at the films that have been coming out over the last few years, they all kinda look the same... groomed trails, groomed gaps, doubles, hips, whatever. Everyone is jumping something. Where's the really killer terrain, the roots, rock gardens, the rain, mud, the dirt!!! It seems to be all about air and what you do in it once you're off the ground. Like Motox. I can't even watch that stuff. I seems like a bore untill they hit the jumps and slide of the saddle or whatever. That to me is boring. I don't know about you, but I like the feeling of my wheels on the ground more. Maybe I'm just a purest resistant to change, who knows.

Tony
08-04-2005, 03:09 PM
http://www.pinkbike.com/modules/photo/?op=view&image=425107

7 reasons why Bender still rocks.

S.

seand
08-04-2005, 03:13 PM
If you think about it the sport and videos are starting to turn into oversized BMX vids. It seems that style and tricks are more important than lines and terrain. Soon every mountain will be a smooth groomed trail with a bunch of tables and we will be complaining if there is the odd rut or bump. We won't need suspension and you will be judged only by the amount of tricks you can do.


...and you just described whistler! :)

Couch_Surfer
08-04-2005, 03:25 PM
...and you just described whistler! :)

and why whistler gets dull (for some people) after 12-15 days in.

seand
08-04-2005, 03:30 PM
12-15 days? id have to do 2 days in the park, 4 days on valley trails...
rinse, wash..repeat...

i dont think i could handle 12-15 straight days in the bike park...

Couch_Surfer
08-04-2005, 05:15 PM
oh man - definately not straight. i'd switch sports if i did 12-15 days straight in the park with no real trail riding in between. don't get me wrong, the park is fun and all, but it gets a bit repetitive.

wa90
08-06-2005, 06:57 AM
Check out Earthed and Earthed 2 if you want to see ragged trails and not just trick-fests.

Midas
08-08-2005, 09:11 PM
Check out Earthed and Earthed 2 if you want to see ragged trails and not just trick-fests.

also check synopsis.

*GiMpY_jR*
08-08-2005, 09:48 PM
If you think about it the sport and videos are starting to turn into oversized BMX vids. It seems that style and tricks are more important than lines and terrain. Soon every mountain will be a smooth groomed trail with a bunch of tables and we will be complaining if there is the odd rut or bump. We won't need suspension and you will be judged only by the amount of tricks you can do.

thats tottaly not it..
sure aline and that are fun to mess around on..
and there arnt any real riding skills involved compared to say
goat gully or somthing like that..
any one can let the breaks off on a groomed trail and find flow but try it through rock gardens..

and like some one said a bit up race movies are where the skills at.. earthed1/2 synopsis.. when you saw the circus come out around the time what ever kranked or newworld the skill was way higher..

"freeriders" huck
so can racers example.. gracia,straight,chase.. all race and pretty well are top at all mtb aspects..

what ever bikings biking its all fun but to say just because big hucks arnt cool that groomed trails are going to take over.. not likely...
skinnys and drops sure theres skill there.. but i betcha any other rider can do the same what not