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LostBoyScout
03-22-2003, 08:53 PM
i'll be about smack dab in the middle :) but we'll have the house pretty much ready within a month or so, but dont move for 3
i grew up on burke.. i can't just leave it :) besides, i got too many plans
twofortythree
03-22-2003, 11:54 PM
in tink we saw u in ur garden today
so flywheel trail day tommorow, 9 am:damn: i might be able to make it
twofortythree
03-23-2003, 12:34 AM
im goin for it
Fuck im sorry but im out again, Family shit to take care of.
LostBoyScout
03-23-2003, 02:15 AM
Originally posted by burke_builder2
in tink we saw u in ur garden today
i saw two peeps riding up the hill round... actually no clue, like 3 prolly. i said to my bro "damnit, i want to be riding" when they rode up hahah
twofortythree
03-23-2003, 12:42 PM
yah im prob just gonna ride up there today
BOUCH
03-23-2003, 07:30 PM
Dont touch our line we will break your legs
Trail Rider 1.0
03-23-2003, 07:56 PM
lol, way to tell 'em bouch:lol:
twofortythree
03-23-2003, 08:40 PM
Originally posted by hiphophero
what i was trying to say is, that the building of trails sutch as the abyss off a very well used trail is not the smartest move for the whole burke mtn scence. How i see it if u want to make a trail like the abyss why not make it some where hidden or a new completle line.
ppl goin bye c the trail and they will ride it once....if they think its too challenging after they ride it then they wont rie it again...
burke_rider
03-23-2003, 08:43 PM
or they can walk
twofortythree
03-23-2003, 08:46 PM
Originally posted by The ATN Machine
The creeks do seem to be in an environmentally senstive area. if we stay by them we should be fine. There are a couple of creeks farther east then flywheel that would be suitable.
One thign is: creeks are lowlands, so we need to take care to keep the trail dry.
creeks also flood onto the trail
burke_rider
03-23-2003, 09:55 PM
tyler wat drop is that on ur things?
twofortythree
03-23-2003, 09:56 PM
ask alex for my msn..
twofortythree
03-23-2003, 10:36 PM
no more burke builder 2
Millstone
03-23-2003, 10:45 PM
Originally posted by BOUCH
Dont touch our line we will break your legs
PWNED.
BOUCH
03-23-2003, 11:04 PM
:dizzy:
Action Hero
03-23-2003, 11:43 PM
Jesus Christ John fucking drop the act. There is nothing wrong with our line, nor is there anything wrong with anything we have worked on.....so skip doing us favors by fixing our "PIECE OF SHIT" work.
Originally posted by tweek
Jesus Christ John fucking drop the act. There is nothing wrong with our line, nor is there anything wrong with anything we have worked on.....so skip doing us favors by fixing our "PIECE OF SHIT" work.
Um, What happened to that trail beside apoc? Uhhhh yeah......
Anyway I was just gonna take a look.
Action Hero
03-24-2003, 02:54 PM
Originally posted by m33p
Um, What happened to that trail beside apoc? Uhhhh yeah......
Anyway I was just gonna take a look.
Shane and you guys took that one over.....those skinnys came from that kid on the Banshee.
billop
03-24-2003, 05:00 PM
:) I missed 13 pages while I was gone....stoopid addictive game. Other trail including last run = fine. Upper Galloway + Flywheel = need a lot of work. You understandy?:D
twofortythree
03-24-2003, 08:40 PM
is there gonna eb another flywheel trail day????
twofortythree
03-24-2003, 08:42 PM
icicic...so there isnt a date yet
flywheel needs work badly
Originally posted by 125
flywheel needs work badly
Most of that is just the unfortunate string of weather we have gone through. It was so bad on saturday that the new rockwork after the log was underwater.
After 2 weeks of sun, if the trail is still bad in places, then those places need work.
BOUCH
03-24-2003, 09:00 PM
Originally posted by twofortythree
icicic...so there isnt a date yet
whatd you guys do to the gap to ladderbridge thing thats in ur signautre? did u just put dirt on it or did you put wood all the way to the end?
Originally posted by BOUCH
whatd you guys do to the gap to ladderbridge thing thats in ur signautre? did u just put dirt on it or did you put wood all the way to the end?
rungs were in short supply.
we put more rungs on where it isnt over that log. the log was covered in dirt. if more rungs can be found then we can put rungs on all the way.
billop
03-24-2003, 09:15 PM
He's not a "nangel tard" (wtf?) We just need all the help we can get. Also, he just so happens to be more experienced then us.
burke_rider
03-24-2003, 09:24 PM
well then he can work on one long ladder through the swamp
Originally posted by burke_rider
well then he can work on one long ladder through the swamp
Ladder isn't high on the list of plans. The availability of the correct wood in that area is too scarce, rocks are more abundant.
billop
03-24-2003, 09:56 PM
How can rockz be "gay". First, they last longer so you don't have to keep eplacing them. It didn't exactly work the first time someone decided they wanted to put a bunch of ladders in a wet swampy area. You wanna build ladders? Great!! You'll be the one replacing the every year.
twofortythree
03-24-2003, 10:16 PM
:flame: :flame: :flame: :flame:
burke_rider
03-24-2003, 10:17 PM
?????????
burke_rider
03-24-2003, 10:21 PM
for what?
i was kidding about the mom part...
couch@nsmb.com
03-24-2003, 11:28 PM
Originally posted by burke_rider
simon is gay simon is gaysimon is gaysimon is gaysimon is gaysimon is gaysimon is gaysimon is gaysimon is gaysimon is gaysimon is gaysimon is gaysimon is gaysimon is gaysimon is gaysimon is gaysimon is gaysimon is gaysimon is gaysimon is gaysimon is gaysimon is gaysimon is gaysimon is gaysimon is gaysimon is gaysimon is gaysimon is gaysimon is gaysimon is gaysimon is gaysimon is gaysimon is gaysimon is gay
Tell me why I shouldn't ban you and remove this thread. Make it good as I am serious.
Originally posted by The ATN Machine
Hopefully when the weather becomes more predicatble and John sorts out his life.
After today I don't know about that.
We'll talk this saturday and I'll try my best to keep sunday free.
cam@nsmb.com
03-24-2003, 11:42 PM
Burke_rider
This is your one and only warning.
I don't care if Szymon is your friend, your brother or even your boyfriend, it is not acceptable to use the term 'gay' as an insult on this site.
It is as offensive to us as racism - meaning we have absolutely no patience for it. And don't tell me that you 'don't mean it that way'.
That's what people used to say about the word Nigger.
Is that clear?
seand
03-25-2003, 02:18 PM
whoa, heh.
seand
03-25-2003, 02:21 PM
im going to assume your last response was not a reply to cam's warning or couch's request....if my assumption is wrong, keep it to yourself. lets just move on from here and put this behind us...
JSinclair
03-25-2003, 03:10 PM
Originally posted by burke_rider
im not fucking gay u applegate fuck tard and what the fuck what if there was a afro american or and african or a jamacan you droped the "N-Bomb" and now all those guys with the fros all hate you and you should be banned you fuck nuget
ok. Bye Bye.
:banned: :clap:
hes gone, hes finally gone:)
billop
03-25-2003, 06:51 PM
I think soon he'll be sending a letter asking to delete his acount here for good.:D:D:D ;)
twofortythree
03-25-2003, 08:02 PM
:D
anyone wanna ride vics on the weekend?
twofortythree
03-25-2003, 09:28 PM
:eek: :eek: :eek: :eek: i do
Millstone
03-26-2003, 09:59 PM
Originally posted by 125
anyone wanna ride vics on the weekend?
I might be up for it if my brake is back. My knee hurts now but it's only wednesday, friday is pretty far away.
which trail is vics again?
vics is the one right beside the second gate
the really steep and technical one
Millstone
03-26-2003, 10:10 PM
That's upper vics right? I don't think I've ever ridden it. How steep are we talking? Is it x-treme or what?
unblock me on msn and i'll tell you how extreme it is:)
twofortythree
03-26-2003, 10:18 PM
:D ill hit up
twofortythree
03-26-2003, 10:26 PM
it sounds buck:D :thepimp:
twofortythree
03-26-2003, 10:27 PM
yes i will.....how long is the trail???
um upper vics is like around 30 min and lower vics is about the same
twofortythree
03-26-2003, 10:31 PM
ic..is there ne stunts at all??
Vic's is a classic line down the hill. Love that trail soooo much. Upper is a lot steeper. Lower is a great flowing trail and my favourite trail in the lower mainland right now.
twofortythree
03-27-2003, 06:29 PM
ok...ill have to hit it
Millstone
03-28-2003, 12:05 AM
Originally posted by m33p
Vic's is a classic line down the hill. Love that trail soooo much. Upper is a lot steeper. Lower is a great flowing trail and my favourite trail in the lower mainland right now.
Edit:
Nevermind, I've ridden lower. Fun trail.
twofortythree
03-28-2003, 08:07 PM
Originally posted by phlegm
Edit:
Nevermind, I've ridden lower. Fun trail.
u gonna come..if so pm me or add me too msn
i'm not going all the way to abyss me and ian might do last run
twofortythree
03-28-2003, 08:10 PM
wut about vics...i might be able to give u ride to the gate
Millstone
03-29-2003, 12:43 AM
No front brake til probably some time next week. Looks like it's bmx for me this weekend... shitty too, I was really hoping to get some trail riding in.
Originally posted by phlegm
No front brake til probably some time next week. Looks like it's bmx for me this weekend... shitty too, I was really hoping to get some trail riding in.
I rode without a front brake for a 2 months.... it's an experience.
Right now I damaged my hose so I'm shortening my rear disc and putting it up front, with a v in the back. I just need an adaptor.
twofortythree
03-29-2003, 11:53 AM
io think today were gonna do log trail or somethin and then last run
BOUCH
03-29-2003, 12:52 PM
Originally posted by twofortythree
io think today were gonna do log trail or somethin and then last run
i gonna meet you homies at station then go to coquitlam with you
:eek: :eek: :eek:
twofortythree
03-29-2003, 01:26 PM
:eek: :eek: :eek: :eek: :eek: :eek: :eek: :eek: :eek: :eek: :eek: :eek: :eek: :eek:
Millstone
03-29-2003, 02:43 PM
Originally posted by The ATN Machine
I rode without a front brake for a 2 months.... it's an experience.
I try my best not to skid out the trails, and going slow is boring.
twofortythree
03-29-2003, 03:57 PM
:D :D :D :D :D :D i did s2 drop:D :D :D :D :D :D
billop
03-29-2003, 05:46 PM
r u srious? Too bad i wasnt there...r u rilli serious?
twofortythree
03-29-2003, 06:34 PM
bouch has picage:D :D :D
twofortythree
03-29-2003, 07:50 PM
props to hark for stair gapping:D
Originally posted by phlegm
I try my best not to skid out the trails, and going slow is boring.
Not riding for two months was out of the question.
Millstone
03-29-2003, 09:07 PM
Originally posted by The ATN Machine
Not riding for two months was out of the question.
That is why I ride street. I can't wait to get back on the trails though.. I need it. I want my brake so bad.
I've only ridden up Burke once in like 3 weeks, and that was on my little bro's bike with dual v's.
I was just in garage fixing the situation tho.... altho I believe I am missing some important v brake parts :rolleyes:
Originally posted by JSinclair
ok. Bye Bye.
:banned: :clap:
good ridance jay
that kid was really annoying
such a joke
*DELETED!!!!*
Originally posted by mike
good ridance jay
that kid was really annoying
such a joke
*DELETED!!!!*
Yes, we've finally sorted all the people out, and got rid of confusing soundalike names. Props to all mods.
PS, when did you join the Burke Thread mike? Nobody has read the entire thing... I only got halfway through (to the exact post on pg 17 where it was ruined)
Action Hero
03-30-2003, 08:28 AM
Originally posted by BOUCH
i gonna meet you homies at station then go to coquitlam with you
:eek: :eek: :eek:
Don't quote me on saying this, and if you say I said this I'll deny it...but I think I wanna go hit up a trail one of these days.
I'll even throw on my frnt Hayes. :lol:
After I get all of our bike crap delivered, obviously.:lol:
What type of trail? What's your current setup like?
Action Hero
03-30-2003, 09:25 AM
Banshee Morphine
243 stem
243 bar
243 caps
Hayes HMX-9 (8 inch, rear only) (frnt for trails 8 inch)
FSA headset
02 DJ One
Formula hub (frnt)
DT spokes (black)
Sun 26" singletrack
Novateck SS hub w/nutted axel (rear)
DT spokes (black)
Atomlab 24" Trail Pimp
Maxxis Highrollers (24", 26")
FSA Crankers (I forget which...from the gucchi package)
Macneil Sprocket/guard
Axiom pedals
Velo Camo BMX seat
Yup, add the front brake and you are set.
Action Hero
03-30-2003, 12:06 PM
Of course, I am riding a Banshee.
I read in the papers recently that they want to turn one of the mtns in the provincial park into a ski resort in the next seven years, and have Lift Assisted Biking there. Any thoughts?
It would be about a 30 min drive, so it would be worth a seasons, maybe even get a job as a liftee.
Action Hero
03-31-2003, 03:07 PM
Originally posted by ATN
I read in the papers recently that they want to turn one of the mtns in the provincial park into a ski resort in the next seven years, and have Lift Assisted Biking there. Any thoughts?
It would be about a 30 min drive, so it would be worth a seasons, maybe even get a job as a liftee.
If thats the case, I'd get a job thier in a minute.
Only problem is that it would take up to 7 years to open, making me 22-23.
Makign sure granny doesn't get knocked over by the chairlift isn't my longterm career goal, altho as a summer job it would get me through university.
twofortythree
03-31-2003, 04:20 PM
:D :D :D second a-line
Millstone
03-31-2003, 05:43 PM
Originally posted by twofortythree
:D :D :D second a-line
Word. But at the same time I would like to keep the classics on the mountain. I would be opposed to having to pay to ride trails I ride for free now.
It is not on Burke, but on a mountain behind or to the side of it.
Pinecone Burke Provincial Park is larger than just Burke.
This mtn supposedly has 30 feet of snowfall a year, that isn't Burke for sure.
twofortythree
03-31-2003, 10:32 PM
:D :D :D :D u cna c that one when u r comin into river springs..it looks liek a glacier
Millstone
04-01-2003, 02:04 AM
Originally posted by ATN
It is not on Burke, but on a mountain behind or to the side of it.
Pinecone Burke Provincial Park is larger than just Burke.
This mtn supposedly has 30 feet of snowfall a year, that isn't Burke for sure.
Yeah, I caught the front page column. I didn't read the full article, though.
We'll see. There's a lot of development going on up on Burke Mt. and it's angering me quite a bit. I don't think that it's a bad thing, I just like the mountain the way it is.
I like it fine too.
The only trail that seems to be affected is Flywheel, lower dump is already closed. For shuttlers, this will have no real affect, as they can drive to the gate, but for me.... I get no reward for the Coast climb.
Pennywise
04-01-2003, 09:57 AM
hey evan what size is your banshee?
Action Hero
04-01-2003, 03:24 PM
14 inch...the smallest one...big ht's annoy me.
twofortythree
04-02-2003, 08:22 PM
hey even...how do u like ur bike, weight wise and the feel
Action Hero
04-02-2003, 11:49 PM
Originally posted by twofortythree
hey even...how do u like ur bike, weight wise and the feel
It's a heavy bike, but it's damn near indestructable..... I'd say it's the most solid bike I have ever ridden. It feels great to ride.
Yer a PoCo kid, I'd let yah give it a test ride.:P
billop
04-03-2003, 08:17 AM
I'm a PoCo kid. Hell I even see you at school all the time. Could you give me a new BB? J/K J/K. 125, Tweek=Even ;)
Action Hero
04-03-2003, 03:25 PM
Originally posted by Szymon
I'm a PoCo kid. Hell I even see you at school all the time. Could you give me a new BB? J/K J/K. 125, Tweek=Even ;)
What? how many of you punks ride at Fox? :lol:
I have a square taper BB if you want it. :lol:
Tweek= evAn:mad: :D
billop
04-03-2003, 03:36 PM
Are you serious about the square taper BB. Mines messed and I'm saving for ISIS, but I don't wanna spend any money untill i get the ISIS. And spending $$$ on a BB that will warp in one ride at lafarge isn't worth it.
P.S. Sorry about mispelling your name about a bizillion times :)
P.P.S. There's probably about 15-20 of us punks
billop
04-03-2003, 03:41 PM
:lol: I just remembered what you looked like back in the day with your thick glasses. You were friends with my brother, you guys went to birchland, I saw you a lot. Good times. :lol: you looked like a total :nerd: But you look way better now. Waaaaaayyyyy better.
Action Hero
04-03-2003, 03:52 PM
Originally posted by Szymon
:lol: I just remembered what you looked like back in the day with your thick glasses. You were friends with my brother, you guys went to birchland, I saw you a lot. Good times. :lol: you looked like a total :nerd: But you look way better now. Waaaaaayyyyy better.
Who's your brother?
Thanx dude but I'm taken :lol:
I have an LX or XT BB you can have.
Your a good man evan...
Simon, dont follow tyler's spellings... didnt "gerg" or 'amtt" tell you?
billop
04-03-2003, 06:05 PM
Originally posted by tweek
Who's your brother?
My brother is Andrew/Booger/Blazej
Originally posted by tweek
Thanx dude but I'm taken :lol:
Worth a shot:rolleyes:
Originally posted by tweek
I have an LX or XT BB you can have.
Sweet deal. Maybe I can get riding again, if they're the right size. Do you have a BB tool too. I'm not paying $20 for a 10 minute job (with the right tools).
Pioter
04-03-2003, 06:32 PM
Ooo... finally gettin a bb, or at least a temporary one. You can come ridin' again:D. I go to Fox, and I've never seen evAn:D:(.
twofortythree
04-03-2003, 06:52 PM
Originally posted by tweek
What? how many of you punks ride at Fox? :lol:
I have a square taper BB if you want it. :lol:
Tweek= evAn:mad: :D
u have ne extra parts that u havent given to bouch that u could hook me up with
KamaKazi
04-03-2003, 07:54 PM
what kind of parts are you looking for? i have lots i am trying to get rid of.
Tyler basically wants a fifth bike, minus fork and front wheel.
billop
04-03-2003, 08:56 PM
He's not rich, we're just poor. Anyways, who hear is goin to the NSMBA trail day on the 13th?
I'm going to see if I can make it... if I can I will have 3 seats for the taking.
twofortythree
04-03-2003, 09:40 PM
im nmot rich and its not a fith bike...i need headset front tire, tube, handle bars and stem
your 13, you have a stinky with supers, your gonna get a 243. i think your rich
Pioter
04-03-2003, 11:12 PM
Originally posted by 125
your 13, you have a stinky with supers, your gonna get a 243. i think your rich
:lol::werd:
As for the trail day, I'm not going since I'm probably going to check out how Manitou Sherman's feel.
Action Hero
04-04-2003, 12:34 AM
Originally posted by Szymon
My brother is Andrew/Booger/Blazej
Worth a shot:rolleyes:
Sweet deal. Maybe I can get riding again, if they're the right size. Do you have a BB tool too. I'm not paying $20 for a 10 minute job (with the right tools).
I lost my BB tool....I'll try to make it work tho.
BOUCH
04-04-2003, 12:56 AM
Originally posted by tweek
I lost my BB tool....I'll try to make it work tho.
i think i have your bb....ian has a tool
Action Hero
04-04-2003, 01:07 AM
Originally posted by BOUCH
i think i have your bb....ian has a tool
Really? I think I have another.... I'll check tomorrow.
billop
04-04-2003, 08:18 AM
Originally posted by 125
your 13, you have a stinky with supers, your gonna get a 243. i think your rich
:werd: Exceptionally wealthy. Let's face it, he doesn't live in a mantion(sp) and have robotic buttlers.
Originally posted by Pioter
:lol::werd:
As for the trail day, I'm not going since I'm probably going to check out how Manitou Sherman's feel.
Can't you do that this weekend, or next Saturday?
Also, you can go to JH before or after the trail day.
billop
04-04-2003, 08:31 AM
I'm sure there are other reasons, he just wanted everyone to know he was getting shermans.:rolleyes: But still, lame excuse.
twofortythree
04-04-2003, 04:15 PM
Originally posted by 125
your 13, you have a stinky with supers, your gonna get a 243. i think your rich
2001 supers:lol: :lol:
BURKE PHANTOMS
04-04-2003, 04:42 PM
This thread has deteriorated into a chat session. I just reviewed over twenty pages of useless information. Is anyone doing anything to flywheel?? I see that ATN is trying to do work and all that he gets is crtisism, whats up with that. I think people need to put down their keyboards and go out to build. I really think that everyone or anyone that does not have enough time to contribute should restrict their feedback and ensure that it is postive or constructive. And by the way I am not a militant builder that thinks you need to build to ride I just think that a person should put their money where their mouth is.
Well... unfortunately, I've only really got up there once. We hiked it in the rain, and saw were the puddles were (read: EVERYWHERE) and it's not been too dry since then.
I agree with the chat session thing.... I think everything since page 17 should be nuked. One day I read the thread and on page 17, found the post that ruined this thread.
And you know who made it.
BURKE PHANTOMS
04-04-2003, 04:54 PM
That' cool, at least you guys are fighting the good fight. Stay determined guys, in a few months you will be kick ass builders and all the wannabe's will have nothing to say.
Originally posted by BURKE PHANTOMS
That' cool, at least you guys are fighting the good fight. Stay determined guys, in a few months you will be kick ass builders and all the wannabe's will have nothing to say.
Thanks for the support.
Anything cool going up on abyss?
Also, what is your opinion on realigning the exit of upper dump so that it comes out at Flywheel, and doesnt cross the creek into the mudpit? Start before the last a-frame, 20 m long maybe....
We took a look at that area on that sunday and it was bad.
Pioter
04-04-2003, 05:06 PM
Ok, sorry, i thought NSMBA trail day was this week, not next.
We ought to try another trail day for flywheel and mabye fix up ending of upper dump while we're there?:???: ?
Currently what happens with trail days is the morning of I wake up early to find it's raining buckets and John's bailed (but I understand)
And no one comes out that I couldn't just contact through msn or pm's.
New plan = check your pm's or msn on sunny weekends.
BURKE PHANTOMS
04-04-2003, 05:09 PM
We've got a little sump'n, sump'n in the works. I will keep you guys posted
billop
04-04-2003, 05:21 PM
I suggest tomorrow we start scouting out a new line for bottom upper dump. Sorry about all the useless useless posting...I guess I get really bored and inconsiderate when I'm not riding a bicycle...bicycle. I needsers my bike fixed...:(
Anyways, that's what I propose. Maybe we can get something done?
twofortythree
04-04-2003, 08:14 PM
not doing any...i dont want to start a fight or anything but like alex said its been very crappy weather...weve been trying to get up but carrying tools from our house all the way up is quite a big job...weve done some building on last run and s2..
BOUCH
04-04-2003, 08:37 PM
Originally posted by twofortythree
not doing any...i dont want to start a fight or anything but like alex said its been very crappy weather...weve been trying to get up but carrying tools from our house all the way up is quite a big job...weve done some building on last run and s2..
youre tyler right?
im gonna finish my roll of film tonight i think so ill proalby develop those pictures of you sometimes next week
Originally posted by BOUCH
youre tyler right?
im gonna finish my roll of film tonight i think so ill proalby develop those pictures of you sometimes next week
http://bb.nsmb.com/newforum/images/sendpm.gif
twofortythree
04-04-2003, 08:44 PM
Originally posted by BOUCH
youre tyler right?
im gonna finish my roll of film tonight i think so ill proalby develop those pictures of you sometimes next week
ok dude.....we rode wit even today:)
BOUCH
04-05-2003, 01:59 AM
Originally posted by twofortythree
ok dude.....we rode wit even today:)
OMGOMGOMGOMGOMG EVAN HOMGREN
:eek: :eek: :eek: :eek: :eek: :eek:
he broked his fork at port moody tongiht, i laughed
Action Hero
04-05-2003, 02:17 AM
Originally posted by BOUCH
OMGOMGOMGOMGOMG EVAN HOMGREN
:eek: :eek: :eek: :eek: :eek: :eek:
he broked his fork at port moody tongiht, i laughed
;) :love: :kiss: muah!
When are we gonna go on that double date? :eek:
I RODE SOME TRAILS TODAY, HOLY SHIT!
Adamski
04-05-2003, 01:57 PM
I drove by lafarge today, looks like a good place to ride. Do any of you go there often? How is it?
Adamski
04-05-2003, 02:02 PM
:poland: :poland:
billop
04-05-2003, 02:18 PM
Hey guys, lets try to get back to discussing Burke. This thread has gone into a major downhill spiral. Czesc Adam. :poland:
Adamski
04-05-2003, 02:32 PM
Czesc:poland:
are you guys going up Burke anytime soon to build\repair?
You guys still go to Fox?
The lafarge jumps are not dry yet.
As for burke, the weather sucks right now and my bike wasn't working. I can't drive up there so I have to bike.
Yeah, still got 7 semesters left as a raven.
Action Hero
04-05-2003, 05:08 PM
I rode there today....most of it is dry.
twofortythree
04-05-2003, 06:23 PM
there is alot of ply wood there....i wonder if we should start rocking on some of the trails on burke...or is it not an issue yet with erosion on burke...for example the part on upper ryans that was rerouted???
The upper ryan's reroute - the one before the wide creek that the phantoms rebridged?
That reroute made the line easier, yet more fun.
As for rocking... yes, trailwork is good. What trails to do... the triple crown run is the most ridden trail on Burke. Phantoms are doing ryan's.... so galloway and flywheel?
twofortythree
04-05-2003, 08:19 PM
phantoms and us should rock some places on abyss..they have done a good job at the bottom of the rolls wit rocking
Abyss is doing great. The level of workmanship is awesome.
Upper Ryans needs work more than lower IMO.
twofortythree
04-05-2003, 08:59 PM
yah upper ryans is sketchy in some places from the mud...maybe we can do somethin out on the power lines like a bridge or somethin
So many ideas, so little time.
twofortythree
04-05-2003, 09:17 PM
yes but that trail gets so much wear it would be worth the climb:D
It will all work out.
Come summer we will all be bored out of our skulls!
twofortythree
04-05-2003, 09:28 PM
:fro: :clap: :werd: i have to go up wellgood next time
Trail Rider 1.0
04-06-2003, 12:58 PM
well, i haven't been on here much lately, i've been soooo busy, and iwont be on much for the next month and a half either. anyways, i think what we really need to do is come up with a plan of whatwe want to do and then justwork down the list. it doesn't have to be on a timetable, just an order that we can work through.
right now, i think the number one priority should be a flywheel upgrade/re-route. I'm still not completely convinced thatit's worth fixing flywheel if it is gonna get torn down in a few years. the way i see it, even if it takes a little while do to some information hunting to find out exactly where a trail will be safe, it'll be worth it to make a new one that won't get torn down
after that huge devellopment goes in on burke, just imagine the traffic a flywheel-like run will get. IMO, we should find out exactly where housing is NOT going to be, and then build a super burly trail that wil handle the abuse. I won't have a lot of time for the next while, but during summer, I'm down with doing some investigating on this, providing I can get some support from others.
Paul
Trail Rider 1.0
04-06-2003, 01:03 PM
Originally posted by Trail Rider 1.0
after that huge devellopment goes in on burke, just imagine the traffic a flywheel-like run will get. IMO, we should find out exactly where housing is NOT going to be, and then build a super burly trail that wil handle the abuse.
just to add on to that point, I don't mind building a trail that is "easy" and will cater to the masses that will be riding their costco bikes down the only shuttle accesable trail on burke. i think whats important, is that we do something low-key, without a lot of stunts, and that does not require alot of maintenance. right now, even a paved path through the forest would be more fun than riding down coast to get down.
Welcome back, o thread creator!
The sale of the land has not gone through yet. Once it's sold, then the devlopers must submit all their documents on what will be built.
I hope that that will happen by summer.
PS. do you have time to look over a couple paragraphs in French for my project?
Originally posted by Trail Rider 1.0
just to add on to that point, I don't mind building a trail that is "easy" and will cater to the masses that will be riding their costco bikes down the only shuttle accesable trail on burke. i think whats important, is that we do something low-key, without a lot of stunts, and that does not require alot of maintenance. right now, even a paved path through the forest would be more fun than riding down coast to get down.
That has always been one of my beliefs.
Speed is fun.
Trail Rider 1.0
04-06-2003, 01:15 PM
Originally posted by ATN
PS. do you have time to look over a couple paragraphs in French for my project?
sure, just send me a pm.
hmm, i didn't know the sale hadn't gone through yet. i remember reading something in the local paper a few weeks ago, i just forget what it said:( anyways, come this summer, if anybody wants to join me in putting on some nice clothes and sweet talking some people at coquitlam city hall, i think our cause couls use some solid info:)
Originally posted by Trail Rider 1.0
hmm, i didn't know the sale hadn't gone through yet. i remember reading something in the local paper a few weeks ago, i just forget what it said:( anyways, come this summer, if anybody wants to join me in putting on some nice clothes and sweet talking some people at coquitlam city hall, i think our cause couls use some solid info:)
I'm not actually sure that it hasn't gone through... all I read about is just proposals.
I'm quite good at putting on nice clothes ant talking to city council, but I've never tried Coquitlam's. We need Brent or Dion or Jason to help because they actually live in Coquitlam.
And then I have some nice formal wear to wear to team awards, etc.
billop
04-06-2003, 02:23 PM
I'm sure if we get enough people to ask, they might tell us something.
Found some more nice stuff.
The real subdivisions don't seem to affect Flywheel, but then why are they surveying on the upper part? Also, Flywheel never turns right (toward Coast) until the lower part. Every right turn on the upper part is just to make the trail go straight down the mountain. That means that the trail never gets nearer to Coast than the the start.
http://www.coquitlam.ca/Business/Developing+Coquitlam/Strategic+Plans/_Northeast+Neighbourhood+Plan+Process.htm
scroll down to Lower Hyde Creek Village and jsut above there is a link to a map.
http://www.coquitlam.ca/Business/Developing+Coquitlam/Strategic+Plans/Citywide+Official+Community+Plan.htm
A copy of the Citywide Official Community Plan can be purchased at:
Planning and Development
Coquitlam City Hall
3000 Guildford Way
Coquitlam, BC
V3B 7N2
For more information, please call 604-927-3430.
Looks like finding out may cost us.
http://lwbc.bc.ca/applying_for_land/burke_mtn.htm
is the government organization selling the land.
wheres the ski resort thing gonna be? the one that was in the newspaper
twofortythree
04-06-2003, 10:12 PM
there is a mountain behind burke that it is aparently gonna be on...this wont happen for a few years adn plus there gonna have to make a road to it
billop
04-06-2003, 10:25 PM
That means more trails....right? And shuttles straight to the trails. Now that's freeriding at its best.
Originally posted by twofortythree
there is a mountain behind burke that it is aparently gonna be on...this wont happen for a few years adn plus there gonna have to make a road to it :???: which one, are there any maps that show it?
Pioter
04-06-2003, 11:15 PM
Paved roads mean more traffic and more maintenance on trails, unless you mean more trails on the mountain thats gonna have the ski lift.... Trails there would be nice :D:thepimp:
rOOfToP
04-07-2003, 12:36 AM
this is not rooftop.
flywheel is a waste of time to fix up guys. Put your time and effort into trails that are higher up lots could use some good work. Example:sawblade, well good, the log trail. Fixing flywheel is a waste of time it was good 4 years ago when 12 people rode it a mounth. Even if this plan doesnt say it we all no all the lower parts of burke will be developed. Work higher up. If your gonna build a trail build one off the back side wayy way way way way up and dont tell anyone about it.
Action Hero
04-07-2003, 12:46 AM
I build dirt jumps where no one will look :)
rOOfToP
04-07-2003, 12:51 AM
quite frankly tweek i dont care where u build dirt jumps next time i see u at terry fox im gonna kick your teeth in
Action Hero
04-07-2003, 01:41 AM
Originally posted by rOOfToP
quite frankly tweek i dont care where u build dirt jumps next time i see u at terry fox im gonna kick your teeth in
See you tommorow.
rOOfToP
04-07-2003, 01:43 AM
damit i posted that msg like 34 or so mintues before u wanted to kick my ass funny how that workd
Action Hero
04-07-2003, 02:00 AM
Originally posted by rOOfToP
damit i posted that msg like 34 or so mintues before u wanted to kick my ass funny how that workd
See you tomorrow.
As of yesterday:
The guys who built Westwood Plateau have successfully bought 179 acres of the core lands. The are bidding on another 238 I believe. The city of coquitlam has not okayed the delopment permits yet.
Millstone
04-10-2003, 12:58 PM
Originally posted by ATN
As of yesterday:
The guys who built Westwood Plateau have successfully bought 179 acres of the core lands. The are bidding on another 238 I believe. The city of coquitlam has not okayed the delopment permits yet.
Is there any sort of map of the developments?
I need to know which trails to go say goodbye to. :(
Originally posted by phlegm
Is there any sort of map of the developments?
I need to know which trails to go say goodbye to. :( probably only flywheel, the rest of the trails are in a provincal park whiich is protected land
Flywheel - toast, maybe not in the first or second phases, but eventually, it's gone
Lower Galloway - Already gone
Upper Galloway - although I doubt it, it may become a bit shorter.
S2 - The land on the coast merid side of the hyde creek is the first phase. That's right next to s2.
Action Hero
04-10-2003, 07:05 PM
Originally posted by ATN
Flywheel - toast, maybe not in the first or second phases, but eventually, it's gone
Lower Galloway - Already gone
Upper Galloway - although I doubt it, it may become a bit shorter.
S2 - The land on the coast merid side of the hyde creek is the first phase. That's right next to s2.
S2 however is not safe enough land to phase out and build on...It stays.
Originally posted by tweek
S2 however is not safe enough land to phase out and build on...It stays.
That's nice, although I thought you weren't taking care of it anymore? Wasn't the plan "evan's secret jumps"
Action Hero
04-10-2003, 09:10 PM
Originally posted by ATN
That's nice, although I thought you weren't taking care of it anymore? Wasn't the plan "evan's secret jumps"
Where did I say I was taking care of it?
Evan is too lazy to build secret jumps....unless Nigel makes me.
Originally posted by tweek
Where did I say I was taking care of it?
Evan is too lazy to build secret jumps....unless Nigel makes me.
Umm.... you built it.... etc.... I just assumed....
Evan do nothing?
Action Hero
04-10-2003, 09:27 PM
Originally posted by ATN
Umm.... you built it.... etc.... I just assumed....
Evan do nothing?
I had enough with that place when people started modifying the jumps so they could hit them rather than leaving them with vert lips ect. I was going to build jumps hidden in the mountain but still haven't found a spot I am really stoked on.
Originally posted by tweek
I had enough with that place when people started modifying the jumps so they could hit them rather than leaving them with vert lips ect. I was going to build jumps hidden in the mountain but still haven't found a spot I am really stoked on.
That explains it.
As for spots, I do not know any either, as I do not know what exactly you want, and how far a hike up you are willign to make to get to it.
Also, if I knew.... I know.
Action Hero
04-10-2003, 10:08 PM
Originally posted by ATN
That explains it.
As for spots, I do not know any either, as I do not know what exactly you want, and how far a hike up you are willign to make to get to it.
Also, if I knew.... I know.
I know a spot I am going to get Levin to look at for bobcat big jumps....but I want somthing small to call my own.
If I knew, I know?
If I knew a spot to build, and you built there, then I'd know you'd built there.
Bobcat... above or below gate?
Action Hero
04-10-2003, 10:14 PM
Originally posted by ATN
If I knew a spot to build, and you built there, then I'd know you'd built there.
Bobcat... above or below gate?
Not even on the mountain.
twofortythree
04-13-2003, 01:51 PM
im prob gonna ride abyss todaY so ill try to pile some rocks
twofortythree
04-13-2003, 05:55 PM
we didnt end up riding it becasue of the rain:(
inshane
04-14-2003, 01:11 AM
I will be at S2 when im able to ride again :)
Action Hero
04-15-2003, 04:27 PM
Originally posted by ~Inshan£~
I will be at S2 when im able to ride again :)
Break a leg. ahahahahhahahhahahaha :kiss:
twofortythree
04-18-2003, 04:26 PM
we rode abyss today and the trail is in pretty good shape..it was kinda muddy adn needs a bit of rock work but ptehr wise al good
twofortythree
04-18-2003, 04:26 PM
has anyone ever rode lost and lazy..we saw that trail today but werernt sure about it
KamaKazi
04-19-2003, 11:42 AM
i rode it a long time ago and it was pretty good. it starts out into a log ride that has huge drop on one side(or atleast it seemed huge at the time) and then it is mostly DH stuff(so i remember) it was my 2nd ride on my hardtail, so that makes it about... ...1.5 years ago that i rode it
April 19th:
Galloway - same as always... not much new, just a lot of mud and garbage.
Flywheel - someone's been doing some work... and some of it I don't agree with. There's lots of mud, and with the new stuff, some lines don't work out (overshoot corners etc)
I may have to go up and fix.
how do you manage to go up to burke so often?
In the last 6 weeks I only got up there 2 times.
The rest of the time, it's just because I live close and have lots of friends that ride it too (altho everyone but Dion and Tyler have broken bikes)
twofortythree
04-20-2003, 11:10 AM
:woot: :woot: :werd: were prob gonna ride lost and lazy today..i heard taht the trail splits up somwhere..any one wanna coem wit us
twofortythree
04-20-2003, 04:18 PM
me and atn rode upper and lower vics today and then last run...lowwer vics was awsome
I went down Flywheel again and got some pics of two areas that concerned me:
http://www.pinkbike.com/modules/photo/?op=view&image=80813
Piles of rotting wood..... is that the best thing?
http://www.pinkbike.com/modules/photo/?op=view&image=80812
Notice how it doesn't line up.... you can see tire tracks heading towards the tree. Looks like the berm needs extending.
Originally posted by 125
flywheel needs work
Yes, but today I noticed a lot more survey signs (tape, cut down trees, spraypainted numbers) Most of it was stuff that I probably just rode past before.
I am becoming skeptic.
LostBoyScout
04-21-2003, 12:29 AM
the rockwork in the pic you posted is too narrow for that spot for sure. but you're right... Flywheel is a dying cause. That doesn't mean we shouldn't do anything to it... I say fix what's broke, and live with the rest. I'm going to personally put my efforts into higher trails.. but that's a personal choice.
Millstone
04-21-2003, 12:43 AM
Good riddance to Flywheel.
Originally posted by LostBoyScout
the rockwork in the pic you posted is too narrow for that spot for sure. but you're right... Flywheel is a dying cause. That doesn't mean we shouldn't do anything to it... I say fix what's broke, and live with the rest. I'm going to personally put my efforts into higher trails.. but that's a personal choice.
I find it funny that right now we have 2 upper portions of trails in that area (Flywheel and Lower Galloway before private property) that are nice right now, and no lower portions (swamp or private property). In time, we will have 0 upper portions, and maybe 1 lower if we are lucky.
twofortythree
04-21-2003, 06:09 PM
Originally posted by 125
how do you manage to go up to burke so often?
i go up tehre liek t times on the break...i just know other ppl taht live close liek me...on sat we rode m\from my house up triple:eek: :eek:
Action Hero
04-22-2003, 03:30 AM
Any of you PoCo/ Coquitlam kids ride street?
Originally posted by tweek
Any of you PoCo/ Coquitlam kids ride street?
I try.... need to find some good streets tho.
When you think about it, I'm mostly XC.
billop
04-22-2003, 02:48 PM
Originally posted by tweek
Any of you PoCo/ Coquitlam kids ride street?
I like the riding of streets plus I ride a HT :D
An ugly one tho...
Originally posted by tweek
Any of you PoCo/ Coquitlam kids ride street? i try
chopcity
04-22-2003, 06:44 PM
FLYWHEEL is dead dont even try working on it work on abyss or something higher no one even rides flywheel as much as they use to
IM BACK:eek: :D
billop
04-22-2003, 06:52 PM
Originally posted by BURKE_RIDER$
FLYWHEEL is dead dont even try working on it work on abyss or something higher no one even rides flywheel as much as they use to
IM BACK:eek: :D
:cry: He's back...but for how long?? And maybe more people would ride flywheel if it wasn't soo crappy. I know I would ride it if there wasn't as much mud.
chopcity
04-22-2003, 07:18 PM
[QUOTE]Originally posted by Szymon
[B]:cry: He's back...but for how long?? And maybe more people would ride flywheel if it wasn't soo crappy. I know I would ride it if there wasn't as much mud.
Forever szymon forever dont u no i am god.. flywheel is like impossible to fix up ther eis never a trail day there or any thin gto fix it up just a few ppl once and a while go up and do some rock work. Im down if there was a taril day or some sort at flywheel
All the survey lines are scaring me shitless
I don't really feel like doing anything on a big scale until I know what's getting paved and what isn't.
Sure, an afternoon or two could be spent doing the really awful corners (like the 2 I posted) but nothing real big
ATN
chopcity
04-22-2003, 07:48 PM
Originally posted by ATN
All the survey lines are scaring me shitless
I don't really feel like doing anything on a big scale until I know what's getting paved and what isn't.
Sure, an afternoon or two could be spent doing the really awful corners (like the 2 I posted) but nothing real big
ATN
The clearing of flywheel is coming im like 2-3 years nothing to be worried about. why not do as much as we can to make it a good trail that goes down then a pice of crap trail. its down low so u dont have to hike high or anything so mise well make it as good as possible. we could always reroute where its terribly muddy and a horrible part, no use trying to fix it if it wont fix
Yeah, I think that too.... you can see in the history of this thread.. back when it was me, jason and paul, and the phantoms.
Right now I'm entering in a really hectic time of the year, starting in 2 weeks I have 7 swim practices over the course of monday to friday, XC races & practices, and a swim meet every weekend starting on the 25th of May. Once I get out of school it will be easier.
I'd like to see how things work out over the summer, also with getting supplies. Pangor made me very envious, being in a cedar forest with lots of rocks.
chopcity
04-22-2003, 07:58 PM
ok i see what ur saying
chopcity
04-22-2003, 10:16 PM
Hey noonan me and tyler wanna start rebuilding that trail u guys started a while ago wanna help us?
Originally posted by BURKE_RIDER$
Hey noonan me and tyler wanna start rebuilding that trail u guys started a while ago wanna help us?
Don't call me noonan, I hate that name. As soon as I witness a violent crime, it's gonna go!
And no.
twofortythree
04-22-2003, 10:27 PM
Originally posted by tweek
Any of you PoCo/ Coquitlam kids ride street?
im alright..i wanna start building up a ht..i can do nose bonks and wallrides and junk..not as good as u even:P
chopcity
04-22-2003, 10:30 PM
NOONAN NOONAN NOONAN NOONAN
chopcity
04-22-2003, 10:31 PM
im calling u that for now on :D
twofortythree
04-22-2003, 10:32 PM
i wanna rebuild it..just cut the whole thing and pout a few launches in...anotehr route besides fly whell....abyss needs alot! of rockwork
twofortythree
04-22-2003, 10:33 PM
ill be down for helping on the weekend phantoms...u jsut go up too early
Action Hero
04-22-2003, 11:21 PM
Originally posted by twofortythree
im alright..i wanna start building up a ht..i can do nose bonks and wallrides and junk..not as good as u even:P
Even!?
When are you building up yer bike?
Originally posted by twofortythree
ill be down for helping on the weekend phantoms...u jsut go up too early hey richy rich
Pioter
04-23-2003, 12:39 AM
Originally posted by tweek
Any of you PoCo/ Coquitlam kids ride street?
I ride street :D I find it a bit harder on a dual suspension than a ht.
I didn't need your bb, i thought i did but nope... do you want it back or shall i keep it??
LostBoyScout
04-23-2003, 01:40 AM
Of course Flywheel is going to really suck right now though, think about the weather lately - 45ish days in a row now that it's rained. CBC is closed... because it's too wet.
Once the dryer season comes, the trail may not fully dry or become the bomb... but it'll be fully acceptable as a means to get down the mountain. That's really all you can ask of a trail like that.
As for PoCo riders who ride street... I do, but on my trials bike
Originally posted by LostBoyScout
Of course Flywheel is going to really suck right now though, think about the weather lately - 45ish days in a row now that it's rained. CBC is closed... because it's too wet.
Once the dryer season comes, the trail may not fully dry or become the bomb... but it'll be fully acceptable as a means to get down the mountain. That's really all you can ask of a trail like that.
Very true. When we get sun and I get more time then we can assess the time needed.
billop
04-23-2003, 09:07 AM
Originally posted by BURKE_RIDER$
Hey noonan me and tyler wanna start rebuilding that trail u guys started a while ago wanna help us?
Sweet guys, you can count me in. We gotta actually scout a line this time tho and biuld stunts that are a little bit better then the originals. Also, for the last section of upper dump, we could reroute that muddy mess to hook up with the new trail. Eh?
BURKE PHANTOMS
04-23-2003, 11:49 AM
hello everybody, haven't had the time to participate in awhile. I did however have a chance to ride flywheel. I don't see the big problem, all the work that has been done has been a valuable addition. Flywheel is a long trail and it will continue to take work. ATN, I think that you are right on the money with just going up and working. I don't know how many times I saw you try to get a big work day going only to be thwarted by bad weather(Weather doesn't reall matter if you wear proper gear) To make my point short don't give up on flywheel. There is quite a bit of cedar down there and once the dryer weather comes the trail will be awesome. Anyway all I'm saying is keep your head up and stay involved your efforts are worthwhile
Action Hero
04-23-2003, 02:50 PM
Originally posted by Pioter
I ride street :D I find it a bit harder on a dual suspension than a ht.
I didn't need your bb, i thought i did but nope... do you want it back or shall i keep it??
Give it to someone who needs it.
twofortythree
04-23-2003, 04:28 PM
Originally posted by tweek
Even!?
When are you building up yer bike?
i have been looking for a frame and i already have front wheel and foprks
Originally posted by BURKE PHANTOMS
hello everybody, haven't had the time to participate in awhile. I did however have a chance to ride flywheel. I don't see the big problem, all the work that has been done has been a valuable addition. Flywheel is a long trail and it will continue to take work. ATN, I think that you are right on the money with just going up and working. I don't know how many times I saw you try to get a big work day going only to be thwarted by bad weather(Weather doesn't reall matter if you wear proper gear) To make my point short don't give up on flywheel. There is quite a bit of cedar down there and once the dryer weather comes the trail will be awesome. Anyway all I'm saying is keep your head up and stay involved your efforts are worthwhile
Thanks man...
BTW did you see the 2 pics I posted a page back? What do you think about those sections?
twofortythree
04-23-2003, 04:35 PM
this thread is getting good again:D
i might be able toi us that bb Even
billop
04-23-2003, 04:42 PM
Originally posted by BURKE PHANTOMS
hello everybody, haven't had the time to participate in awhile. I did however have a chance to ride flywheel. I don't see the big problem, all the work that has been done has been a valuable addition. Flywheel is a long trail and it will continue to take work. ATN, I think that you are right on the money with just going up and working. I don't know how many times I saw you try to get a big work day going only to be thwarted by bad weather(Weather doesn't reall matter if you wear proper gear) To make my point short don't give up on flywheel. There is quite a bit of cedar down there and once the dryer weather comes the trail will be awesome. Anyway all I'm saying is keep your head up and stay involved your efforts are worthwhile
Then keep working we shall. BTW, his name is evAn with an A. One E, one A, one V and one N.
god damn richy, its EVAN not even
chopcity
04-23-2003, 05:13 PM
if its sunny tommorw lets go to that trail u guys made or started i might have a chainsaw by then:D :D :D
BURKE PHANTOMS
04-23-2003, 05:38 PM
ATN, the first photo shows the rotten wood. The rotten wood will decompose and it will not set up properly. I would suggest rock work and raised elevation combined with a water bar to let the water pass and drain. To fix low spots you need to either 'a' raise them up or 'b' create a lower spot for the water to find. I find many spots of trail need this. The abyss is going to need this in a few places to make it a viable heavy usage year round trail. In regards to the second picture it is very tough because what is a could line now will most likely be to tight for how fast we will be going in the summer. I suppose that changes will have to be made once the trail gets drier and we figure out exactly where we overshot our corners.
Originally posted by BURKE PHANTOMS
ATN, the first photo shows the rotten wood. The rotten wood will decompose and it will not set up properly. I would suggest rock work and raised elevation combined with a water bar to let the water pass and drain. To fix low spots you need to either 'a' raise them up or 'b' create a lower spot for the water to find. I find many spots of trail need this. The abyss is going to need this in a few places to make it a viable heavy usage year round trail. In regards to the second picture it is very tough because what is a could line now will most likely be to tight for how fast we will be going in the summer. I suppose that changes will have to be made once the trail gets drier and we figure out exactly where we overshot our corners.
That's what I was thinking for the first photo, although that area may just need a 20m long reroute. I don't exactly feel like bringing in enough material to raise it (the entrie section is low) and I do not have a way of getting cedar cut up, plus why build a bridge when you can go without?
twofortythree
04-23-2003, 07:01 PM
we could bridge it??? that might be the easiest way..on the first photo there is the mud whole..we coudl bridge that too
Originally posted by twofortythree
we could bridge it??? that might be the easiest way..on the first photo there is the mud whole..we coudl bridge that too
When you are trying to add flow, bridges should be the last option.
twofortythree
04-23-2003, 07:38 PM
i think bridges would flow through that mudwhole fine
twofortythree
04-23-2003, 07:40 PM
i think there our best chance there its too much of a mess...and how it dips in the ground and how low it is..plus the log on the side would make it pretty hard to drian things out
billop
04-23-2003, 07:43 PM
Sure but what's more flowy, ladders or mud? You said yourself you don't want to elevate it with dirt. I think an elevated ladder would be the second best thing to do in this case.
chopcity
04-23-2003, 07:43 PM
What are u talkig about if its a good ladder is make nice flow mise well use a ladder that takes much less time then putting rocks in that takes much longer plus ladders are more fun
chopcity
04-23-2003, 07:46 PM
Originally posted by Szymon
I think an elevated ladder would be the second best thing to do in this case.
2ND best u mean the best
billop
04-23-2003, 07:48 PM
Originally posted by BURKE_RIDER$
2ND best u mean the best
No elevated rock work would be the best but since Flywheel is devoid of rocks we have to go with a ladder made of imported wood.
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