DH Tubes

[ProBikeGeek]

I have been running DH tubes for a while now, and have learned their importance. I run Maxxis tubes, and they seem so heavy.

Any suggestions for some lighter tubes?

[thedude]

Tubeless

[the flying moose]

Tubeless

for sure. im gonna try and do the stans deal soon.

[ProBikeGeek]

What would it cost to get a good set of rims, with tires?

[ito]

Latex tubes and dual ply maxxis. No flats, no worries, super light.

Tubeless is ok, but the stan's stuff can be a mess with sealant. If you do use sealant try experimenting with lower amounts mixed with water. It dries and adheres to the tire rather than being a slime. Specialized was experimenting with it for a while, not sure if it is the suggested way to use stans or not, but it cuts a lot of weight.

The Ito

[Wayne P]

Latex tubes and dual ply maxxis. No flats, no worries, super light.

Tubeless is ok, but the stan's stuff can be a mess with sealant. If you do use sealant try experimenting with lower amounts mixed with water. It dries and adheres to the tire rather than being a slime. Specialized was experimenting with it for a while, not sure if it is the suggested way to use stans or not, but it cuts a lot of weight.

The Ito

I guess you don't have any rocks in dry Cali huh? I wouldn't mess around with lightweight tubes because the first time your rim bottoms out on a rock, they're flat.

Stan's is very easy to set up and you will never want to use anything else once you've tried it. I don't know what you're talking about exactly, sounds like you didn't do it properly. My sealant dries up along the bead and fills any and all holes in the tire.

Say bye to flats. I havn't used a tube in 3 years.

[thedude]

Mavic EX729 rims ~$90 each
Kenda Nevegal Tires ~$55 each
Hubs - Pick your price (front $50-150) (rear $80-400)
Spokes and build $100
Disks - $60 each
cassette - $90

New wheel sets are not cheap, but can make a HUGE difference in how your bike feels and how fast you ride.

Try the Ghetto Tubeless set up http://www.nsmb.com/gear/tubeless_12_04.php

[pano-dude]

i use cheap irc xc tubes and intense tires, no flats and it's damn rocky here in invermere. I'd like to try the stans, but tire changes would be a pain on race day.

[willmtbike4food]

If tire-changing is something you commonly do, maybe a new set of wheels is called for - UST tubeless, and it isn't a problem.

There used to be a company called "Love" - they made Love Tires, a "tubular" mountain tire, but it's still a clincher. Basically, the tube is incorporated into the design of the tire. I don't know if the company flopped or what - I haven't heard anything from/about them in a long time. Googling them comes up with nothing - maybe check eBay?

Also, I've heard that Tufo may be looking to get into the mountain bike tubular clincher tire market. That'd be amazing - their road tires are top-notch. I've ridden only one set of wheels with their "tubular clincher" tires, but I love them. Supple (high TPI), fast, light (no need for a tube or rim strip), etc.

Otherwise, tubeless, or risk it, and keep going with the light tubes... There are plenty of people doing both - the homemade tubeless seems to work, why not give it a try, if you have the time/patience...?

[sleeper72]

I've run my tires at 10psi, dented the rear rim, and never flatted the tube, and that is with el-cheapo MEC Continental mountain bike tubes. When I did buy a $16 DH tube once, it pinch flatted first day. Maybe it depends on the tire/rim combo. I run Kenda Nevegals with Mavic 729 rims.
I'd like to try Stan's just out of curiousity, but to me the expense isn't worth it.

[scottvelez]

I run lightweight XC tubes, Maxxis Minion or Michelin Comp 16s and have had exactly ONE flat in 3 years of Whistler, Shore and BC Cup races.
Obviously, I've been blessed by God.

[Wayne P]

I run lightweight XC tubes, Maxxis Minion or Michelin Comp 16s and have had exactly ONE flat in 3 years of Whistler, Shore and BC Cup races.
Obviously, I've been blessed by God.

Jeesus, I can get about 2 minutes out of an XC tube at about 35psi. Maybe I should have been picking better lines. Nah, I'll stick to Stan's.

[Dantes Inferno]

it doesnt matter what tubes i run, i always flat because i take stupid airs to stupid chunky landings.

i.e. 3rd section of psuedgasuida(flat alley) in squam, those water bars produce mad air.

does stans work good on double tracks? I know ill have to upgrade my Stouts but i wanna do that anyway.

[atb]

i'm thinking about going tubeless, on my 43lbs bike the wheels take up about 22lbs. i need to lose some rotating weight.

[scottvelez]

Jeesus, I can get about 2 minutes out of an XC tube at about 35psi. Maybe I should have been picking better lines. Nah, I'll stick to Stan's.
Or you could slow down and ride the same speed I do :agree:

[Beerme]

I run Stans on double track up front with bluegroove(Kevlar) works well no flats just have to check pressure if bike sits for a few days.

[Keefer]

I run ghetto tubeless on both my wheels, Doubletrack with a Big Earl up front, and Earl rim with a Michi comp 16 on the rear. I also ran my comp16 on a Doubletrack.

I don't think you'll necessarily ned to upgrade your stout to try the ghetto tubeless, as long as the sidewalls aren't extremely thin, you should be fine.

It's easy enough to do once you get the sealant, and it makes the world of difference. Well worth the little bit of time and energy you put in. When I changed my tire from the Doubletrack rim to the Earl rim, I just kept the sealant puddled in the tire, and I didn't even need to add more sealant, and it's holding fine.

If you're not running tubeless, you're missing out.