What happened to mountian biking??

[|2ipper]

How come its cool to look poor?
How come its cool to dress our bikes up with 80's colours??
How come its cool to look like a "dirtbag"?
How come its cool to act like where black, when really where just a skinny long haired kid still in highschool?

what happend to day trips?
what happend to being "bros" with everyone in the biking commuity?
what happend to sharing riding locations?
what happend to using full words, ie. "emo"?? wtf!?!?

Now these questions are not pointed at anyone, just what i have seen over the past year of not riding as much as i did before.

[Dan0]

Its because mountain biking is now "cool"

[allex]

its the north van kids starting all the trends

[TheGiggler]

bitch less ... ride more

who gives a flyin eff what others are doing.

[Del]

i think its sort of funny that sometimes i have no idea what buddies are saying. Creepers like Kyle Hansen calling everything Cute now that steeze is out of fashion :lol:

[Dan0]

Originally posted by Location:.
its the north van kids starting all the trends

I hear they're pretty hip

[BrianPark]

I blame capitalist society.

Actually, fuck that. I'd take a poor looking, skinny long haired kid, with a bike that has 80s colours, riding around town alone, over a rich looking kid with $4095 Raceface shorts, on a bike with 74 Fox stickers, doing shuttle runs in his moms SUV with his hack buddies.

[Ashek]

i dunno bout you, but i dont see shuttles full of dirtbag homeless crackers in knee-high socks and neon tights riding around... is that a surrey thing? :D

[wickedmcdougle]

werd /\

[wickedmcdougle]

agh, I meant the one above it

[wilkez]

im cool, and im none of the above...so eat me

[Scott C]

Yeah, but you're in PG; you don't count. :D

[toy4-jay]

i honestly don't give a fuck about the current trends in MTBing....

nothing on my bike is pink.

i keep stickers to an absolute MINIMUM.

I don't like feeling or looking like a dirtbag

and its MY SUV, not my moms:P

[BrianPark]

Didn't you know? Pink makes you ride better.

[bikesrfun]

Damn those trends, there should be a MTN bike fashon show.:rolleyes:

[Farmer]

Fuck trends, I'm 14, and ride w./ clipless (if it is during race season) and where lycra under my baggies when It is a long ride up to the trail, and I can still kick my friends asses at riding:thepimp:

[IP FreeLee]

I think this is a wicked post!

Fo Sho NV GEO Thugz be gettin givin it g styles...

I know we just started a racing forum but I think a fashion and trends forum would be for better ...
What do you say mod's???

On the runny kine

:)

[cam@nsmb.com]

It's still like that with the over 30 crowd.

It's unbelievably liberating to know you aren't cool and not care - well not too much.

As far as sharing riding locations goes many of us still live by the old code.

Originally posted by |2ipper
How come its cool to look poor?
How come its cool to dress our bikes up with 80's colours??
How come its cool to look like a "dirtbag"?
How come its cool to act like where black, when really where just a skinny long haired kid still in highschool?

what happend to day trips?
what happend to being "bros" with everyone in the biking commuity?
what happend to sharing riding locations?
what happend to using full words, ie. "emo"?? wtf!?!?

Now these questions are not pointed at anyone, just what i have seen over the past year of not riding as much as i did before.

[GRIZZ]

Originally posted by cam@nsmb.com
It's still like that with the over 30 crowd.

It's unbelievably liberating to know you aren't cool and not care - well not too much.


man the 30+ club is so rad, everyone seems to have alot more fun and they do stuff for themselves not to show off...i have my funnest rides when i hook up with the crowds of guys an gals who in the 30+ group

[sooke hooligan]

hahaha how come this buddy doesnt get thrashed for worrying about what other people wear ??

anyways i think its people attempting to look normal while bike riding. mtn biking was flooded with so many hardcore trends that so many of you indulged in. how can u badmouth "trends", when most of the people themselves were the ones sporting fox moto gear, throwing the horns and hacking up some trail.

why do u care what other people do ? im not supporting some of the things u describe but im not condeming them.


ps: check out this site. prolly suits u better

www.metalmulisha.com
www.freestylemotoxxx.com

[Farmer]

Originally posted by cam@nsmb.com

As far as sharing riding locations goes many of us still live by the old code.

what is the old code?

[RITALIN]

Originally posted by GRIZZ
man the 30+ club is so rad, everyone seems to have alot more fun and they do stuff for themselves not to show off...i have my funnest rides when i hook up with the crowds of guys an gals who in the 30+ group

totally agree

[brignall]

yeah i know what you meen i agree

[LIGHT]

As I have gotten older I have realized the best thing about mtn biking is that it can be a soul sport (ie surfing). I don't like to race anymore, it ruins it for me. I am a little too competitive and it only becomes about winning. People who appreciate the soul aspect of the sport ride because it makes them feel good to be out getting exercise in nature and challenging themselves mentally and physically. I worry about mtn biking sometimes, and I don't want to generalize, but when I am at Whistler or riding Seymour among the shuttlers, I don't feel the soul. I notice a totally different feeling between riding Fromme or Seymour. I used to ride Seymour almost exclusively and now I tend to ride Fromme. Fromme just feels better. Sometimes I think people worry too much about which suspension design is best or that they have a square taper BB. I think like everything, you don't appreciate the soul of mtn biking until you age. It also feels really good to ride things at 35 that I could not ride at 25.

[Midas]

"emo" isn't a mountain biking term, get on the indie rock culture scene, not the wigger scene. Mountain biking just got COOOL.:thepimp: :thepimp: I'd have to say its progression, street riding is big, youre on the streets in public, you need to look normal. not like a storm trooper riding around at the skateparks. its moved to the mountain. I support looking good, fashion and riding. Oh yeah. I wear jeants and t shirts when i ride. maybe some sweet looking shorts that arnt basketball ones but yeah riding shorts that arnt really lame looking. looking casual is what its all about becuase riding is casual and chill.

[sooke hooligan]

exactly. why do we need shorts that are 15 inches thick for riding ??? its rediculous, seriously. I think the problem is people got so used to dressing up like a storm trooper they got so carried away they didnt realise what hey look like.

[Midas]

they complain we care about fashion because we were normal clothes. but they go out and buy stormtrooper suits that "look cool" and then deny they bought it for fashion and for purpose. when it doesnt make a differance safety wise

[DaveM]

Originally posted by |2ipper
How come its cool to look poor?
How come its cool to dress our bikes up with 80's colours??
How come its cool to look like a "dirtbag"?
How come its cool to act like where black, when really where just a skinny long haired kid still in highschool?


This is where you're mistaken. These things were never cool.

It's cool just to ride your bike and not care about what someone else is doing.

[Jerry-Rig]

I blame Danny Brody.....

[bullit_kid]

i blame me, for being to hip

[Wayne P]

All mountain bikers look like dorks. Damn!!:mad:

[Midas]

thats why i wear snowboard clothes.

[switch]

Originally posted by cam@nsmb.com
It's unbelievably liberating to know you aren't cool and not care - well not too much.
Amen.

I'd hate to be 16 and having to look the part. Riding a bike with my jeans half way down my thighs and my ass-crack showing would suck.

Remember kids, roadies and XC riders have tried it all, and lycra shorts actually do feel great when you have to pedal.

Speaking of pedaling, why is it always "old" people who are pedaling up Seymour? I don't think I've ever seen any teens climbing the mountain.

[old_school_n00b]

Originally posted by Farmer
what is the old code?

First blood buys the first round of beers after the ride, yield if someone yells "track" or "piste" or "on yer left," and don't talk about it if you poached it. :D

[Solar_mtb]

Originally posted by Midas
"emo" isn't a mountain biking term, get on the indie rock culture scene, not the wigger scene. Mountain biking just got COOOL.:thepimp: :thepimp:

I always thought emo was an nsmb thing. shows what i know... i used it in a convo w/ sum friends one day a while back after seeing all u nsmb'ers using it, and now it seems everyone around me says "emo" like, 3 or 4 times a day. :???:

[TheGiggler]

Originally posted by switch

Speaking of pedaling, why is it always "old" people who are pedaling up Seymour? I don't think I've ever seen any teens climbing the mountain.


cause it takes too long... duh!

and you can't get in 5 runs that way.

[hooli]

i blame poor edumacation...the spelling in this thread is horrible

less riding ....more lernin

[RITALIN]

Originally posted by switch

Speaking of pedaling, why is it always "old" people who are pedaling up Seymour? I don't think I've ever seen any teens climbing the mountain.

well first of most of us 16 year olds dont drive so we rely on our rentz or friends for rides to mountains and then if u only have 3 hours for a fromme ride then whats the point of climbing up in a shorter time when u will be done the ride in like 2 hours and end up waiting or asking ur ride to come earlier

[Lady Gravity]

Originally posted by Wayne Parsons
All mountain bikers look like dorks. Damn!!:mad:

mmm not really
the sexiest thing on 2 wheels has to be a guy with full gear, fullface helmet and a hot bike :drool:

you want dork, that would be me right after a ride :lol: covered in dirt and my hair plastered to my head with sweat...ooo yeah

[trout]

Bah, when I was a grom we wore lycra.

[Duncan]

Originally posted by switch
Amen.


Remember kids, roadies and XC riders have tried it all, and lycra shorts actually do feel great when you have to pedal.



They've tried it all and then some ... especially when you get old enough to the point where your gut hangs out of the lycra, and even 25-panelled teflon-reinfoced spandex shorts can't hide your sagging ass. And still you go out and ride. Now THAT'S cool. D.

[synchro]

Originally posted by Duncan
Tried it all and then some ... especially when you get old enough to the point where your gut hangs out of the lycra, and even 25-panelled teflon-reinfoced spandex shorts can't hide your sagging ass. And still you go out and ride. Now THAT'S cool. D.

it's not nice to say things like that to switch

[mrraulduke]

that's wy they make lycra bib shorts...

[Duncan]

Originally posted by synchro
it's not nice to say things like that to switch

Actually I wasn't slamming anyone ... I think everytime anyone anywhere goes for a ride, wearing whatever, the world becomes a better place. (Unless they are doing one of those LA-style bicycle drive-by shootings). D.

[synchro]

Originally posted by Duncan
Actually I wasn't slamming anyone ... I think everytime anyone anywhere goes for a ride, wearing whatever, the world becomes a better place. (Unless they are doing one of those LA-style bicycle drive-by shootings). D.

lol - sarcasm my friend. if it wasn't rob i wouldn't have bothered

[Putty]

i would pay good money to see rob and his bro in matching, mario brothers colored spandex.

as a matter of fact they should come to my party dressed like that.

[aShogunNamedMarcus]

Originally posted by Farmer
what is the old code?

I do believe if you dont know where it is and its not on a map, then it stays that way.

Or if you know, and someone doesnt, take them there and ride it with them, dont just tell them.

Along those lines I do believe.

[Tom]

I ride bikes because it's fun. I can't imagine riding a bike in jeans would be at all comfortable, but to each his own.

[FroJoe]

Originally posted by statix
who gives a flyin eff what others are doing.

ditto. ride for yourself, that is what it's all about.

in addition, everytime i ride it's just a shirt, and pants or shorts. i dont get all dressed up in "the gear" (excluding a helmet) because i like to feel casual. with just my regular clothes i feel like i'm just "hopping on the bike for a ride" and more connected with the bike.
not the case if i put on $500 worth of flashy riding gear which makes me look like i'm going to do battle with the mountain. even when i ride shore on the big bike, i'm pretty sure the forest doesn't give a hoot if i have the latest oakley jersey or whatever.

but hey that's just my opinion, if one cares to get all dressed up, thats them and thats coo with me.

[corey@nsmb.com]

Originally posted by BrianPark
I blame capitalist society.

Actually, fuck that. I'd take a poor looking, skinny long haired kid, with a bike that has 80s colours, riding around town alone, over a rich looking kid with $4095 Raceface shorts, on a bike with 74 Fox stickers, doing shuttle runs in his moms SUV with his hack buddies.


I can tell you one thing...attitudes like this and terms like "hack" and "mom's SUV" never used to exist in MTB.

This kind of attitude (which is critical, bitter and judgemental) hurts the sport more than anything.

[Purecanadianhoney]

Originally posted by |2ipper
How come its cool to look poor?
How come its cool to dress our bikes up with 80's colours??
How come its cool to look like a "dirtbag"?
How come its cool to act like where black, when really where just a skinny long haired kid still in highschool?


I had no idea any of these things were cool :lol:

Acting like 'wigga' doesn't make you look cool, it makes you retarded!

[Putty]

Whatever happened to - twin sets
Whatever happened to - hi-fi
Whatever happened to - TV sex
Whatever happened to - you and I

Your passion is a product
(of) highlight and detail
That come hither look
Bonus offer retail

Whatever happened to - pick-up trucks
Whatever happened to - yellow pages
Whatever happened to - burning books
Whatever happened to - new ages

Your emotions are cheap
Cut price cash and carry
Your heart on your sleeve
For any Tom, Dick or Harry

Your love is a cashed-in cheque
Oh oh that's the way of all flesh

Whatever happened to - Chairman Mao
Whatever happened to - God above
Whatever happened to - the cow
Whatever happened to - plug-in love

Your pasteurised life so fit for consumption
Ooooo those undressing eyes so strictly commercial

Your love is a cashed-in cheque
Oh oh that's the way of all flesh
All flesh
All flesh

[Ned]

I dunno man, my watch keeps on ticking in spite of the sport's growing pain lickin'. Just keep it smart and don't make too big a deal of things so as not to draw too much attention. Under the radar...

What's that saying Mulletron coined?

R I D E M O R E B I T C H L E S S :)

[taprider]

Originally posted by switch
Speaking of pedaling, why is it always "old" people who are pedaling up Seymour? I don't think I've ever seen any teens climbing the mountain.
Originally posted by statix
cause it takes too long... duh!

and you can't get in 5 runs that way.

I'm one of the old guys. It takes me 1 hour 20 minutes to ride from the Stupor Store to CBC to Bottle Top and back out.

The shuttlers I see need time to meet and load, then to drive up and park, put armour on ride the road to the trail head, then at the bottom take off armour get into another vehicle, then drive back up Seymour to retrieve first vehicle, drive back down, transfer gear. Still takes 1:20 I bet

[switch]

Originally posted by synchro
it's not nice to say things like that to switch
Bastard! I'm gonna poach your trail in full lycra and take pictures.




Originally posted by putty
i would pay good money to see rob and his bro in matching, mario brothers colored spandex.
Come ride with us - that is our normal attire. :D


http://www3.telus.net/switch/misc/lycra.jpg

[sooke hooligan]

Originally posted by corey@nsmb.com
I can tell you one thing...attitudes like this and terms like "hack" and "mom's SUV" never used to exist in MTB.

This kind of attitude (which is critical, bitter and judgemental) hurts the sport more than anything.

explain to me what "never used to exist in mtn biking" is supposed to mean.

[derwood]

Originally posted by sooke hooligan
explain to me what "never used to exist in mtn biking" is supposed to mean.

Riding used to be just about riding a bike ,laughing and getting dirty.

For some of us it still is.

[nedonator]

Freak Fantastic....Rock for tha Masses!!!

[sooke hooligan]

Originally posted by derwood
Riding used to be just about riding a bike ,laughing and getting dirty.

For some of us it still is.

i ride my bike for fun and i laugh and sometimes get dirty.

it seems the older guys on here seem to prefer the way it once was, while i could argue from my standpoint ,mtn biking is getting better and better every year.

ps: im pretty sure lots of people used the term "hack" back in the day. you were probably too busy moderating to have heard it.

[Incorrigible]

I can tell you that 10 years ago, nobody shared riding locations. They showed you, unless they took off so fast you couldn't follow. So don't get the impression that anything has changed for the worse. On the contrary, it's way more open now than it ever was - and better. I like the fact that it's less "clubby".

[switch]

Originally posted by sooke hooligan
i ride my bike for fun and i laugh and sometimes get dirty.

it seems the older guys on here seem to prefer the way it once was, while i could argue from my standpoint ,mtn biking is getting better and better every year.
It is getting better in many respects.

The point I was making was that riding is just that - riding. If there's no shuttle, I'll still ride. That's the way it was, but that's not exactly the way it is today.

[corey@nsmb.com]

Originally posted by sooke hooligan
explain to me what "never used to exist in mtn biking" is supposed to mean.


People never used to have that kind of attitude. It did not exist...ie: it was not there ie: nobody was like that ie: you never heard comments like that

Anything else I can help you with?

[thedude]

Everything changes.

Bikes
Fashion
Trails
The Weather
Your Age
Your Maturity

Your Attitude

[Biking Fiend]

im not cool in the biking scene someone said to me at the outdoor show "whats with the peircings and gelled hair"

[corey@nsmb.com]

Originally posted by sooke hooligan
ps: im pretty sure lots of people used the term "hack" back in the day. you were probably too busy moderating to have heard it.


The more you type the more you are illustrating the main points in this thread...

A simple discussion about how the bike scene has changed, and you find a way to work in a challenge to the people discussing it (where you sarcastically ask me to define what not existing meant) and then you take it to the next level, sharing your bitterness, with a little personal jab at someone taking part in the thread ("you were probably too busy moderating to have heard it").

Why the sour attitude? How does a discussion about the changes in biking justify your little shots at people in the discussion?

I recall a time where the bike scene was small and everyone was always stoked to be out, and to talk about it, etc. It's gotten a lot bigger, and I'm stoked to see it grow and to see new people get into it.

I don't like that despite all the great folks it's brought into it, how it's also attracted the kind of sour, unfriendliness that we are seeing in this thread. That, my friend, didn't use to be nearly as common.

If it helps you get stoked to ride, so be it...

[Jamie_k]

I blame the internet. Not anything against this site, there nothing you can do about peoples attitudes/lingo/gay fasions. Some change is good. some not so much. (ie. EMO) There is not much you can do about it.

Jamie

[NickS]

emo just sucks leave it at that and let it die. I ride in whatever, for street or some Djs im not gona go out there in a jersey and big moto pants it just dosent fit. I wear whats comfortable which is some shorts or jeans and a t shirt usually. Look at every other new progressive sport like this they also wear casual clothes. The thing is let people do what they want. As said before ride more bitch less. Dont worry about what other people do just keep on keepin on.


Also i find it funny that you say whats with all the abrieviations like emo then follow it up with wtf.

[sooke hooligan]

Originally posted by corey@nsmb.com
The more you type the more you are illustrating the main points in this thread...

A simple discussion about how the bike scene has changed, and you find a way to work in a challenge to the people discussing it (where you sarcastically ask me to define what not existing meant) and then you take it to the next level, sharing your bitterness, with a little personal jab at someone taking part in the thread ("you were probably too busy moderating to have heard it").

Why the sour attitude? How does a discussion about the changes in biking justify your little shots at people in the discussion?

I recall a time where the bike scene was small and everyone was always stoked to be out, and to talk about it, etc. It's gotten a lot bigger, and I'm stoked to see it grow and to see new people get into it.

I don't like that despite all the great folks it's brought into it, how it's also attracted the kind of sour, unfriendliness that we are seeing in this thread. That, my friend, didn't use to be nearly as common.

If it helps you get stoked to ride, so be it...

my question was not sarcastic, i was serious.

i honestly think that the biking scene hasnt changed as much as all of you would like to beleive. of course almost everythign has evolved. Although I think you will see a diffferance in peoples opinions and peoples actions, of course if you ask such an open ended questin on an anonymous internet forum, your bound to get some uprising but i think that generally speaking people are all out there to have fun. I dont think anyone is going to make fun of anyone for clothes they wear or bikes they ride ? but hey, sure lets make it an nsmb topic.

that being said, ive heard alot of older 30's+ category guys ragging on "street riders" at whistler for using a hardtail up there. " get back to the skatepark" haha !. just tohught i'd point that out, i dont tihnk it has anything to do with this.

[corey@nsmb.com]

Originally posted by sooke hooligan

that being said, ive heard alot of older 30's+ category guys ragging on "street riders" at whistler for using a hardtail up there. " get back to the skatepark" haha !. just tohught i'd point that out, i dont tihnk it has anything to do with this.


I think that sucks, and it does indeed relate to this. It's the pre-occupation with what other people are doing and how they are doing it... it shouldn't matter what people ride or how they do it, 'cause we all do it for the same reasons.

Sounds like jealous old guys to me. ;)

:)

[brentomatic]

Originally posted by sooke hooligan

ps: im pretty sure lots of people used the term "hack" back in the day. you were probably too busy moderating to have heard it.

:lol:

[trout]

Originally posted by sooke hooligan

ps: im pretty sure lots of people used the term "hack" back in the day. you were probably too busy moderating to have heard it.

In the old days the term was "jitbag".

[hobo man]

Originally posted by Dan0
I hear they're pretty hip
u kdis r sooo stupid. we bike for fun, and do our thang and have fun and sudden;ly we r ruining mtn biking for everyone else, bike for ur own reasons where what uw ant i don't effing care, just don't bitch about it.

[Coop]

BUILD BRIDGES NOT WALLRIDES !

[sooke hooligan]

Originally posted by Coop
BUILD BRIDGES NOT WALLRIDES !

thats one of the worst things ive ever read on here.
can we please have an OLD guy who hates NEW stuff forum. :rolleyes:

[biopace]

Yeah, this sport has come a long way. But while it has progressed a lot, I think the issues you raise aren't so much resulting from the progression, but from the inclusion of so many more people, and different types of people.

When I started riding, anyone who had an actual mountain bike was automatically "hardcore." It wasn't cool yet, so it only attracted those people who were in love with bikes.

Now, mountain biking is cool. More people are getting involved (not saying that is a good or bad thing), and different people are getting involved. But there is still the core group of riders who are simply in love with biking. Others who ride because it is cool will be on to the next thing when it hits. But that core group will remain.

ps riding to the trails means you are warmed up for the first dh!

[taprider]

what does emo mean?

something to do with riding in jeans?
how do people ride in jeans or long baggy pants without getting them caught in the chain anyway?

[marksnet]

im not sure how you guys can sit on here and argue all day, dont you get it, people all have there own opinions, and as you mature, these can change! most people arguing are stuborn, and its pointless arguing. clearly guys that are 30-40+ are going to view things different, think of it this way, would i really want my dad doing stuff that i was into? no, he would collapse! bald guys dont look good in hats. dont take fasion so seriously, im still going to ride in my jeans and tshirt for the majority of the time. it never seems to click in when i read it, but actaully TRY and not complain so much on here!

[Ned]

Hey, I heard Lee is holding a leg shaving clinic in his garage tonight. Shaving isn't what it used to be...

On that note, I'm gonna hop on the rig and go fer a ride and laugh at all the pretentious digital dicks in their wheeled cages on my way home :D

[synchro]

Originally posted by corey@nsmb.com
People never used to have that kind of attitude. It did not exist...ie: it was not there ie: nobody was like that ie: you never heard comments like that

Anything else I can help you with?

ahhhh, the smell of irony gently wafting from the monitor

[corey@nsmb.com]

Originally posted by synchro
ahhhh, the smell of irony gently wafting from the monitor

:lol:

I know I know.... you would respond the same! :lol:

[synchro]

Originally posted by corey@nsmb.com
:lol:

I know I know.... you would respond the same! :lol:

but of course. that is what makes roasting the keepers of the asylum that much more fun.

[Duncan]

Originally posted by corey@nsmb.com


I recall a time where the bike scene was small and everyone was always stoked to be out, and to talk about it, etc. It's gotten a lot bigger, and I'm stoked to see it grow and to see new people get into it.


I've been riding since the 1980s (on and offroad), and there have always been elitists, people who were too cool to talk you or acknowledge the existence anyone they didn't consider cool. It doesn't bother me since people ride for many different reasons, but a shared sense of community is always nice to see. D.

[counterpoint]

spandex/powerbars/alone in the forest/away from the kids/holding on to the last shred of youth

+

snow/skate attitude/pushing the limits/style to match the smoothness/ today I'm better than the top pro from 2 years ago

=

Free ride mountain biking today.

[Coop]

Originally posted by sooke hooligan
thats one of the worst things ive ever read on here.
can we please have an OLD guy who hates NEW stuff forum. :rolleyes:

nah i was trying to be funny or ironic or something.

[TheGiggler]

Originally posted by counterpoint
spandex/powerbars/alone in the forest/away from the kids/holding on to the last shred of youth

+

snow/skate attitude/pushing the limits/style to match the smoothness/ today I'm better than the top pro from 2 years ago

=

Free ride mountain biking today.


exactly why i dunnot do "Free ride mountain biking"


god i hate the word "freeride"...

[Midas]

Originally posted by taprider
what does emo mean?

something to do with riding in jeans?
how do people ride in jeans or long baggy pants without getting them caught in the chain anyway?


Emo is a trendy indie rock stereo type, gererally music where the singer cried about how nobody loves him or understands him and how his heart is broken and wants to cut wrists. Typical dress is black hiar with whispy bangs off to the side, tight jeans, shirts converse shoes and ear plugs.

[Universe]

Originally posted by counterpoint
spandex/powerbars/alone in the forest/away from the kids/holding on to the last shred of youth

+

snow/skate attitude/pushing the limits/style to match the smoothness/ today I'm better than the top pro from 2 years ago

=

Free ride mountain biking today.

Haha, right on Jer. Hey gimme a shout when you are in town next. Go for a rip.

[HIBuLlitT]

Sometimes I feel as though I'm intruding on your space because I don't live on the "shore".

BUT...everytime I make a comment, or ask for help, information or whatever, I am made to feel welcome by all (most). The point I'm trying to make is that the styles you see on the trails are more reflective of the TV/general public culture that we all live in one way or another. I ride with kids sometimes (yes anyone less than 30 y/o is a kid to me as I'm probably the 'old man' to them). I'm sure that without the common desire to bike (street/mountain/dj or whatever) we would never hang out.

WITH mtb'ing in all it's forms I am exposed to more cultures/personalities and I feel more enriched because of it.

I think that instead of looking down on other people for what they wear while riding, look at their face, if their smilling that's what matters. Body armor is a nice thing for someone like me, because it hurts like hell to drive a boat at 22kts with broken ribs and I plan on hucking bigger every year till I can't get my leg over the top tube (then I might get a girlie bike;-).

I don't wear lycra and my bike is not pink, but I lived through the 80's and my pink izod shirt has long since rotted away.

As far as telling people about secret trails, the old code still exists, I've had a few offers to be shown when I go to BC this August...come here and I'll show ya mine.

Just remember...the first rule of fight club-DON'T TALK about fight club
:thepimp:

peace

[cam@nsmb.com]

Originally posted by Farmer
what is the old code?

When the rider is ready the trail will appear.

Essentially if you think somebody is worthy of a particular trail - say one that isn't well known - and they won't be an indiscrete trail snitch you take them there.

You don't give directions over the phone or on the internet - you personally go on a ride with them.

Trail knowledge doesn't spread like syphilis when this rule is adhered to - it happens at a more linear, organic pace.

[couch@nsmb.com]

Originally posted by |2ipper
How come its cool to look poor?
How come its cool to dress our bikes up with 80's colours??
How come its cool to look like a "dirtbag"?
How come its cool to act like where black, when really where just a skinny long haired kid still in highschool?

what happend to day trips?
what happend to being "bros" with everyone in the biking commuity?
what happend to sharing riding locations?
what happend to using full words, ie. "emo"?? wtf!?!?

Now these questions are not pointed at anyone, just what i have seen over the past year of not riding as much as i did before.

I have no idea what you are talking about.

[IP FreeLee]

I agree with Da Rig, it really is Danny Brodie's fault...

Dang Brodie !!!!

I am going to go ride with my Bell V1Pro helmet and grateful dead shirt saturday and see if I get teased cuz I am not cool enough...wait.. I always get teased.... Way to go Brodie!
Ok maybe I will see if I get teased more than usual :)

[Wayne P]

No way. Its the hippy's fault.

[Shocker]

Originally posted by IP FreeLee
I agree with Da Rig, it really is Danny Brodie's fault...

Dang Brodie !!!!

I am going to go ride with my Bell V1Pro helmet and grateful dead shirt saturday and see if I get teased cuz I am not cool enough...wait.. I always get teased.... Way to go Brodie!
Ok maybe I will see if I get teased more than usual :)

damnit jay im on vacation leave me out of this ! maybe i can set the TAN trend too ;) BTW ---- brodY :) peace out from COZUMEL . Note its 11:30 at night and nothing to do on the ship and thats why im wasting my time on nsmb ...

[Midas]

Danny youre on a cruise ship. there is alwyas something to do. didnt you say you were going out tonight aswell. geeze. BRODIE

[sooke hooligan]

Originally posted by IP FreeLee
I agree with Da Rig, it really is Danny Brodie's fault...

Dang Brodie !!!!

I am going to go ride with my Bell V1Pro helmet and grateful dead shirt saturday and see if I get teased cuz I am not cool enough...wait.. I always get teased.... Way to go Brodie!
Ok maybe I will see if I get teased more than usual :)

i couldnt agree more. i also blame danny for all of these 12 year old mtn bike groupies we have nowadays. what happened ?

[switch]

Originally posted by Midas
Emo is a trendy indie rock stereo type, gererally music where the singer cried about how nobody loves him or understands him and how his heart is broken and wants to cut wrists. Typical dress is black hiar with whispy bangs off to the side, tight jeans, shirts converse shoes and ear plugs.

So, kinda like Johnny Cash?

[|2ipper]

Originally posted by couch@nsmb.com
I have no idea what you are talking about.

my entire point of living is now ended :lol:



i'm just tryed of seeing kids thinking that they are hot shit.
when i was there age if i did stuff like they do now, i'd get the shit beatin outta me

[Joe Dick]

Originally posted by switch
So, kinda like Johnny Cash?

no, the Cash man is more about how life is a mean SOB and you've got to kick the shit out of it, or it'll kick the shit out of you..

[CraigH]

Originally posted by taprider
what does emo mean?


I thought they did a movie about finding emo?






















http://backyardmissionary.typepad.com/backyardmissionary/nemo.jpeg

[hobo man]

Originally posted by |2ipper
my entire point of living is now ended :lol:



i'm just tryed of seeing kids thinking that they are hot shit.
when i was there age if i did stuff like they do now, i'd get the shit beatin outta me
no oen thinlks thjere the shit. that's the problem, people like u see kdis not exactly caring what people like u think Znd they do their own thign without worryign about it and all of a sudden we trying to be "the shit"

[Lady Gravity]

Originally posted by CraigH
I thought they did a movie about finding emo?


:lol: :lol:

that's NEMO

N E M O

:P

[CraigH]

Thanks!

I'll be here all week.

Don't forget to tip your servers.

~~~~~~~~~~~~

Actually, this is Emo.

http://www.comedystars.com/Bios/_pics/phillips_emo.jpg

http://www.comedystars.com/Bios/phillips_emo.shtml

[Jerry-Rig]

I have noticed alot more attitude in Whistler than the Shore..... I still blame Danny Brody and MTV.

[taprider]

I've heard of Paul Brodie
who is Danny Brodie?

[Jerry-Rig]

a picture is worth a thousand words....

http://www.pinkbike.com/modules/photo/?op=view&image=57069

EMO wannabe

[switch]

Originally posted by Jerry-Rig
EMO wannabe

Yeah, but he can take some nice pics.

[Jerry-Rig]

Originally posted by switch
Yeah, but he can take some nice pics.

and a rad bicycle rider...


http://www.pinkbike.com/modules/photo/?op=view&image=244531

[SIDESHOW]

Originally posted by Farmer
what is the old code?



we'll tell you when your 30.
































maybe....

[SIDESHOW]

Mountain biking has always been cool. Thats why I started.

There were some of "US" who thought it was really cool and saw the future. we were involved in early free-ride projects, and lots of years of heated conversation about where it should go.

I am about to turn 31, and I am riding at the peak of my progression, I now ride for all the right reasons, and some of the new found maturity that is a part of my non-riding life has helped me to concentrate when I rip.

I might even go ride for a few videos this year, I'm gettin tired of watchin ghey steez in videos, time for the return of the sideshow, don't have to go huge to make er look nice for the lense, and smooth feels good.


So ya, the +30 club is treating me all right.

[taprider]

QUOTE:
Originally posted by sooke hooligan
thats one of the worst things ive ever read on here.
can we please have an OLD guy who hates NEW stuff forum.
Originally posted by Coop
nah i was trying to be funny or ironic or something.

"Build Bridges not Wall Rides" is laugh out loud funny (how come there isn't laugh my guts out icon?)
Sooke is probably too young to get it, or he wasn't paying attention in geography or history class ;)

[mas]

Originally posted by cam@nsmb.com
It's still like that with the over 30 crowd.

It's unbelievably liberating to know you aren't cool and not care - well not too much.

As far as sharing riding locations goes many of us still live by the old code.

I hear that...I'm over 30 and so are most of my riding buds. We like to think we're cool, but we know we're not. haha

Our top priorities:

- enjoy the ride
- avoid the emergency room

Life's hard enough...keep the biking part simple!

[HIBuLlitT]

The 'new' body armor for the 'old' bodies.:crazy:
wops! forgot the link (must be the vicodin )ftp://www.motorcycle.com/pub/videos/vest03.mpg

BTW- how is the ER in BC?

[XXX_er]

Soon as you think you are cool... yer not ,but you are probably cool as long as you remain oblivious


most of my riding buds are 40+ and into the 50's

[Late Bloomer]

If you have to rely on what others think of you to feel cool, then you're probably not cool.

I probably look ridiculous more than half the times I'm out riding but I could care less. I'm out there riding - that's what really matters.

HIBuLlitT - cool vid...that dummy is a jedi-endo-machine:cool:

[whistler110]

You guys are great, this was a very entertaining read.

I watched the 70's-80's BMX scene in the interior from the sidelines and then the NS scene in the 80's and 90's but didn't hang with the "cool crowd" and thank god it has evolved. Can you imagine still riding XC hardtails with catilever brakes and 2.2 tires? Since when did gear not matter, that has always been a big topic. ROACH armor came out when and for who?

Things haven't changed, you have. Some of the guys in the 80's & early 90's were/and still are as elitist or arrogant to the outsiders as some of the kids are now. We rebeled against society by doing what was unheard of with our bikes and now the Groms are rebeling against us by pushing the limits even further.

Bring it on, lets keep evolving. Just please don't bring back neon colors.:D

[Desloc]

Cool is getting out on your bike... no matter what it is and what you wear. Judging others based on one's limited vision is very uncool.


What happened to mountain biking?


Everything, it's better than ever and I'm having a blast~! :thepimp:



Des

[switch]

Originally posted by whistler110
We rebeled against society by doing what was unheard of with our bikes and now the Groms are rebeling against us by pushing the limits even further.

Driving fashion in a sport isn't exactly pushing the limits. Neither is seeing how many times you can get your mom to shuttle you.

[DangerBoy]

How come its cool to look poor?
it's not, we just are poor. The cool part comes later

How come its cool to dress our bikes up with 80's colours??
cause bright colors are awesome

How come its cool to look like a "dirtbag"?
I have one word for you. Fubar

How come its cool to act like where black, when really where just a skinny long haired kid still in highschool?
that's not cool

what happend to day trips?
Nothing, they still exist

what happend to being "bros" with everyone in the biking commuity?
we are.

what happend to sharing riding locations?
we do.

what happend to using full words, ie. "emo"?? wtf!?!?
we as north americans have gotten lazier and lazier. I mean what's the typing Be Right Back when I can just substitute it for brb.

[whistler110]

Originally posted by switch
Driving fashion in a sport isn't exactly pushing the limits. Neither is seeing how many times you can get your mom to shuttle you.

I agree they have nothing to do with performance, but function in clothing/gear can and some people do care about how they look. I don't but my wife keeps telling me I should, so I guess she does and she's a hardcore ripper on the DH runs.

What's wrong with seeing how many shuttle laps you can do in a day, it's not the same as how many laps on Fromme you can do or how fast, but it's still riding. Are you saying you've never counted and compared how many laps you've done over a few beers at the end of the day?

[switch]

Originally posted by whistler110
I agree they have nothing to do with performance, but function in clothing/gear can and some people do care about how they look. I don't but my wife keeps telling me I should, so I guess she does and she's a hardcore ripper on the DH runs.
You mean there are wives that don't say that? :D


What's wrong with seeing how many shuttle laps you can do in a day, it's not the same as how many laps on Fromme you can do or how fast, but it's still riding. Are you saying you've never counted and compared how many laps you've done over a few beers at the end of the day? [/B][/QUOTE]
Nope. Never.

[wickedmcdougle]

Originally posted by whistler110
...a few beers at the end of the day?

more than a few....

the only time I compare laps is after whistler, after riding fromme once I'm just too lazy to point the bike uphill again

[Coop]

Originally posted by taprider
"Build Bridges not Wall Rides" is laugh out loud funny (how come there isn't laugh my guts out icon?)
Sooke is probably too young to get it, or he wasn't paying attention in geography or history class ;) [/B]

glad someone enjoyed it ;)

[Bukkake]

The kids starting these new trends aren't mountain bikers. They're BMX'ers having an identity crisis.

[sooke hooligan]

Originally posted by "Bukkake"
The kids starting these new trends aren't mountain bikers. They're BMX'ers having an identity crisis.
how do clothes affect what bike u ride. :???:

[taprider]

Originally posted by sooke hooligan
how do clothes affect what bike u ride. :???:

jeans and long baggies get caught in the chain

[Ned]

Yes indeed. There's riding and then there's riding.

[whistler110]

Originally posted by "Bukkake"
The kids starting these new trends aren't mountain bikers. They're BMX'ers having an identity crisis.

I think "Mountain Biking" is having an identity crisis. How many times have you heard XC riders say that DHing isn't true mountain biking yet that's how it started in Marin with the repack crowd, they were shuttling to DH then they added gears to get up the hills easier. Oh no, now they're XC. Then comes the Shore with it's technical moves and harsh terrain that requires moves like wheeley drops, which we didn't invent we took from trials. Time goes by and the equipement gets better and we start going faster, start looking for more jumps and flow and start using skills that, OH MY G*D, BMXers have been doing for years before us just on different terrain. Now you have DH parks where we don't climb much, MMMHHH, sounds like shuttling but without the vehicles. Back to the top.

Mountain biking doesn't need to be pigeon wholed, that's what makes it soo great.

How many of you that have been riding for more than 5 years are still riding the same type of rig on the same terrain with the same skills? Better yet how many of us only have one kind of bike?

What do you feel like doing with your bike today?

[switch]

Originally posted by whistler110
How many of you that have been riding for more than 5 years are still riding the same type of rig on the same terrain with the same skills?

http://www.fotosearch.com/comp/EYW/EYW136/e002978.jpg

[Flow]

ahaha Man people worry too much! Trends come and go...and we're all gunna look back in 5 years and think we looked like idiots anyways so dress and ride how you like to, trendy or not.:D

[Midas]

Originally posted by switch
So, kinda like Johnny Cash?

No way. Nothing like Cash. More crying in high pitch tones and more bitching about teenage love. Also more black hair.

[synchro]

Originally posted by switch
http://www.fotosearch.com/comp/EYW/EYW136/e002978.jpg

ahhh BULLSHIT!

i doubt you rode a 6 and 6 bike 5 yrs ago

[Midas]

Just ride in this and youre way cool.

http://www.improb.com/airchives/paperair/volume4/v4i4/grizzly.jpg

[HIBuLlitT]

QUOTE:
Originally posted by switch
So, kinda like Johnny Cash?

No way Cash was cool

[Ned]

Originally posted by synchro
ahhh BULLSHIT!

i doubt you rode a 6 and 6 bike 5 yrs ago

Maybe not but I just assembled a knockoff of my 1992 bike, albeit with discs instead of forst run XTR canti's. Full rigid coming to a trail near you :cool:

[CraigH]

Originally posted by Ned
Maybe not but I just assembled a knockoff of my 1992 bike, albeit with discs instead of forst run XTR canti's. Full rigid coming to a trail near you :cool:

I ride a full rigid occasionally too, I just can't do it all that often as my ankles and hands don't take the beating like they used to.

Built the bike up to fool around on as a beginner trials, but I've ended up using it riding trails more.

http://gallery.consumerreview.com/webcrossing/images/karakoram600.jpg

Back then I used to ride a GT Avalanche in a larger frame size so this is very close, other than the Maguras are much better than the canti & U-brake combo on the Avalanche!

[synchro]

Originally posted by Ned
Maybe not but I just assembled a knockoff of my 1992 bike, albeit with discs instead of forst run XTR canti's. Full rigid coming to a trail near you :cool:

i have two more bikes to buy. a nice full squish xc and a rigid

[switch]

Originally posted by synchro
ahhh BULLSHIT!

i doubt you rode a 6 and 6 bike 5 yrs ago
Maybe not, but close. The rest is true.

10 years ago. Riding Bridal Path out to Hyannis, then along the Seymour River, Twin Bridges, to the dam, back on Fishermans / Riverside / Seymour parkway. That was really fun. Can't be done any more with toe clips - Bridal is a lot harder.

With the exception of the additions of fenders and a rack, the bike is as stock as the day Chaz sold it to me (tires just never wore out!).

http://www3.telus.net/switch/images/bv.jpg



This is 5 years ago (only major diff is a 4" fork):

http://www3.telus.net/switch/images/robert1.jpg


I'll snap a pick of my much older bike and post it up - funny as hell.

[XXX_er]

I still got my bear valley ,I think it was an 86 the 1st year they made em.Light action ,u-brake under the chain stays,over 30lbs ,they came with really shitty narrow tires cuz the duty was less with 1.5inch tires or something along those lines