New fork for new season

[michelin man]

So as whistler is approaching i have decided to get myself a new fork. My old Monster t is just too heavy sometimes so im thinking of getting a lighter fork. What should i be looking at, so far i have thought of the fallowing:
slider+
888
super t
i currently ride a 03 wadesimmons edition RM7

thanks for the help

[Sticky]

888 with flat crowns works well.

[Nelson]

66rc

[GRIZZ]

pure marz

[big ben]

stick with the monster t dude!:D

[hardy shawn]

i have a 888 on my 02 rm7. works well but flat crowns would be IDEAL in giving you a steeper head angle. wich you would want.

[michelin man]

how much are the crowns?

[Bryce]

the new ones come stock with flat crowns

[Jaysin]

I'd go for the 888R....I have been riding it the past season and love it!

[thewwkayaker]

If you can afford it - Fox40 fork - super light (claimed sub 7lbs!!), 8" (203mm) of actual travel (unlike say the SuperT with 6.7" really), not tall, more adjustments (for the higher end) than most forks, 40mm stantions and wide so it will have good turning radius = to or better than your old monster.

[jonny.zee]

Originally posted by Bryce
the new ones come stock with flat crowns

Are you sure about that? The ones I saw in the stores looked the same as last years.

And the ones pictured here:
http://www.marzocchi.com/System/8410/888RC-l.jpg
Don't look anything like the ones pictured here:
http://www.go-ride.com/goride_products/lowrider/lw_prdc.jpg

[michelin man]

Originally posted by thewwkayaker
If you can afford it - Fox40 fork - super light (claimed sub 7lbs!!), 8" (203mm) of actual travel (unlike say the SuperT with 6.7" really), not tall, more adjustments (for the higher end) than most forks, 40mm stantions and wide so it will have good turning radius = to or better than your old monster.
actually the fox only has 7.8

but still closer then -.4

[GRIZZ]

if ya have an 02 monster i will trade ya my 05 slider

[aShogunNamedMarcus]

The Fox40 would be prime if you're a high roller :P

I love my 888. I'll let you know how the low rider crowns work out when I get them on and my bike built.

[the flying moose]

super monster for those bender sized hits or just to look like a baller.

[CraigH]

Originally posted by Jay T
if ya have an 02 monster i will trade ya my 05 slider

He is on a 03 Wade RM7, they came with the 03 Monster.

[michelin man]

ya sorry its a 03 but if ur still intrested pm em

[GRIZZ]

Originally posted by CraigH
He is on a 03 Wade RM7, they came with the 03 Monster.

ya it was worth a shot though, i seem to remeber seeing pics of a wadesimmonsrm7 with a 02 monster

[AnTi-TrAiL_nAzI]

Robbert... get a RST! or a SR SUNTOUR!:thepimp: :thepimp: it would match your bike.. squeeky and ghey

[michelin man]

wow ur quite the funny guy ryan to bad you weigh as much as a house
back on topic please im leaning towards the slider if i had the cash id shure love to get the fox though

[switch]

It's $130 extra to get the Marzocchi flat crowns for the 888.


http://www.go-ride.com/suspension/marzochi/2005/crowns.jpg

[atb]

have you conciderd a boxxer. the 2005 are sposed to be much more durable then the older ones. thay have 8" of trave and are shorter then 888, and you dont have to buy extra crowns just to make your fork at a resonable hight.

[peachy-B]

it's interesting how many people recommend the fox40 when it's not even out in the market... and most likely have never ridden it. how can u recommend something that u haven't tried. assumming of course u haven't. if you have for some reason (you're a pro and sponsored by fox?) then i apologize. :rolleyes:

[IFO]

well its not like FOx is new to bike technology...

they have been around long enuf to know their shit..

i jumped at a chance to get a early run DH40.. with full faith in FOX's ability to produce a high end fork...

your fooling yourself if u dont want one cuz its "first year"....

[Nelson]

Originally posted by switch
It's $130 extra to get the Marzocchi flat crowns for the 888.


http://www.go-ride.com/suspension/marzochi/2005/crowns.jpg

the fact that marzocchi simply didnt change the crowns for 05 and you gotta pay to have a lower fork pisses me off. That right there shows how much we are getting owned by the big companies...

[peachy-B]

Originally posted by IFO
well its not like FOx is new to bike technology...

they have been around long enuf to know their shit..

i jumped at a chance to get a early run DH40.. with full faith in FOX's ability to produce a high end fork...

your fooling yourself if u dont want one cuz its "first year"....

IFO,

i'm not saying i dnt want one. sure i want one.... but i'm not recommending it to anyone coz i haven't ridden it. also 'first year' doesn't bother me. once the VPX shows it's head i'm getting one.

just because a company has been around for a while doesn't mean it'll always consistently produce good products. all i'm saying is pretty simple... unless u have tested the fork, how can u tell another person that the fork is good. sounds almost like listening to a used car salesman sell u a used car... when he drives a new sports car.

myb it's just me.

[switch]

Originally posted by peachy-B
just because a company has been around for a while doesn't mean it'll always consistently produce good products. all i'm saying is pretty simple... unless u have tested the fork, how can u tell another person that the fork is good. sounds almost like listening to a used car salesman sell u a used car... when he drives a new sports car.

Of course you can say it's the best thing since sliced bread. This is NSMB, and it happens all the time. Of course, there's been plenty of back pedaling later...

[thewwkayaker]

If someone says that the fork feels like butter and never bottoms etc. then that would require experience. On the other hand, if you just go by the fact that the fork is the lightest in it's class, has the biggest turning radius in it's class, more adjustability, built by a company that has a sound rep. and already produced well respected forks and that few forks by such companies are ever bad forks - then why not?

Look at the competition: Marz. - solid usually well built reliable forks but hasn't done anything new and inventive for years. The 888 is heavy and tall (but for more money you can reduce it's height by using an aftermarket fix - good response to the customer via Marz.) Rockshox boxxers - after 2 questionable years it looks like some promising improvements. It's a good bet the 05boxxer will be good - but then we can claim the same about the Fox40.

The thread starter asked about lighter forks - the Fox40 would be the lightest with 8" travel. Will it be a good fork? Most likely - many people will be willing to drop the big coin on it. Next in line would be the 05boxxers (for weight). Will the problems of the past be just that? Most likely. Finally 888. There were problems with the 888 when first introduced yet it sold like crazy. Problems (I believe) taken care of now. Is it light? No - well yes compared to a Monster, but it's still heavy in it's class. Plus there is the height issue.

[Rat]

Originally posted by IFO
well its not like FOx is new to bike technology...

they have been around long enuf to know their shit..

i jumped at a chance to get a early run DH40.. with full faith in FOX's ability to produce a high end fork...

your fooling yourself if u dont want one cuz its "first year"....


Just like the MRD Xworks

[hooli]

sometimes it is so funny reading thru this board...

unproven equipment recommended by children

ifo weren't you preaching the virtues of dorado x-works last year and where are they now...back in the factory being redesigned

if you need advice on equipment ask people who have ridden it not read about it

[thewwkayaker]

Wow - I've been called a child!!! If only it were true...then again I don't turn 40 until next year so perhaps I am but a child! (my friends in their 50s will be happy to know they are just teenagers or young adults!)

People riding equipment and giving a recommendation isn't always better than using common sense and reading stats about them. E.g. if you buy a bike, even if it turns out you weren't that happy with it - are you going to admit it? Few will. Other times people will overlook problems because they want the product to be considered good - e.g. there were problems with the 888s yet people still recommended them.

For me, the bottom line now comes down to the fact that Marz. (IMHO) has "dropped the ball" on fork improvements - sitting on their laurels thinking they have the market sewn up. The 888 is just a heavy tall SuperT with 8" instead of 6.7". Manitou has tried to add SPV - didn't work too well the first time, BUT, they stood by their product and allowed a free upgrade to the new version. I expect the same with Rockshox and Fox if there are issues.

When progressive came out with the 5th, many said they didn't like the feel of it (having never really tried one much) yet it became the must have shock in it's 2nd year. Fox tried to respond (afterwards - again they figured they owned the shock market) and on their 2nd attempt the FHX5.0 came to be. Before anyone really had tried one everyone wanted one - why?

Opinions (even people who've "tested" equipment) are as dangerous as reading literature - all biased and based on whatever people want to believe.

But then again I am but a child..... :-)

[IFO]

Originally posted by hooli
sometimes it is so funny reading thru this board...

unproven equipment recommended by children

ifo weren't you preaching the virtues of dorado x-works last year and where are they now...back in the factory being redesigned



theres nothing wrong with the MRD !!!

its just a case of the SPV damping system doesnt appeal to me.. its hardly defective...

thre are alot of people out there on SPV forks that love the way they ride...i just dont happen to be one of them...

dont confuse personal taste in ride quality with a "bad product"...

p.s. shy of the SPV damping not being to my liking, every other part of the fork was outstanding...

i certainly have no regrets having bought a MRD thats for sure.

oh yeah thx for calling me a child... :D been a long time since i was called one... u made my day...:beer:

[michelin man]

thanks for all the help, anything else i should know?

[nick1111]

Originally posted by IFO
theres nothing wrong with the MRD !!!


Yes, yes there is. That's why they cancelled it (for the 2nd time).

[Rat]

the "Must have new shiny gear syndrom" can afflict all of us but if you look back over the years at the big hype products you will see that

25% of them had problems and had to be revised in the next production run
50% of them worked OK but were not the hype that surounded the product
25% were killer products

Ill leave the first year products to the gearwhores and the odd occasion that one falls into my lap at a price I cant refuse.

[CraigH]

Rat, what is your pick of "25% killer products"?

Just curious.

[million dola "jules"]

Originally posted by nick1111
Yes, yes there is. That's why they cancelled it (for the 2nd time).

theres nothing wrong with the dorado mrd its the problems with the spv dampining device those forks are perfectly fine with tpc dampinging and my slider has the 04 spv and its not even that bad.

[Rat]

Im being generous with the 25% figure if you ask me.

the Push service for fox shocks would be one. but when your shock is already blown its pretty much a no brainer.

Lots of hype around the E thirteen guides and I think they have turned out pretty decent.

I think the sherman forks turned out pretty good compared to what else was on the market at the time.

Avalanche shocks would be anouther.

[TheGiggler]

you don't argue with Rat on gear.

this guy probably spends about $400 a year to keep all his bikes running. thru avoiding the shitty products and scoping out the best deals... :cool:

[Rat]

Originally posted by statix


this guy probably spends about $400 a year to keep all his bikes running.


I wish

[TheGiggler]

yea, me too.

wanna bring your Heckler out here weds/thurs for a ride? :)

[Rat]

perhaps thursday

[nick1111]

Originally posted by million dola "jules"
theres nothing wrong with the dorado mrd its the problems with the spv dampining device those forks are perfectly fine with tpc dampinging and my slider has the 04 spv and its not even that bad.

That's like saying there's nothing wrong with the car, just the engine. The internals of those forks (spv) were crap. Of course it would be good with tpc (probably amazing) but it's esentially a 200mm dorado dh, not an "xworks."

[Shmoe]

The #'s on the Fox dh fork look amazing. Im just not liking the rebound adjustment on the lower leg and the fact that one of their pro-riders forks at the world cup sounded like a 2001 marzocchi under braking.

Still I was close to buying one, Maybe ill wait until some other people own it for a few months.

[michelin man]

do u think the sherman slider plus would be good? that is wat i am leaning for right now

[switch]

You like your Monster T, but it's too heavy. So get a 888. It's essentially a light version of a Monster T.

Or PM Ross (bullit_kid). He was racing an RM7, and I believe he had a triple 8 on it.

[Coop]

dude I went from an 03 monster t2 to a 888....and it seriously feels like i'm going to go into orbit when I hop my bike now.

best $900 I ever charged to my account at the sho.. hahaha

[Faithless]

900? where did u get it for that price

[michelin man]

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