Broken odi grips, anyone?

[Ari]

http://koti.welho.com/akemppa5/odi/
Ever seen this happening?

I crashed hard after landing a 25x40' roadgap. Apparently because my grip failed catastrophically.
Apparently, because I cant remember anything from that day, or the couple of weeks after that..
According to the eyewitnesses, I landed on the spot, smoothly, no problem. But halfway through the tranny my steering just went off for no apparent reason.
I smacked to the flat ground after the tranny from
about 60-70 km/h. I had done the gap four times prior to that, so I got it dialed and well within my abilities.

Anyways, I fractured four vertebraes at chest height, punctured a lung and got a brain contusion.

That was three and a half months ago. Thankfully I am getting better, but still on the road to recovery. Now I have some titanium:thepimp: supporting my spine, and a cool scar to boot http://www.ridefree.fi/pics/rf1232.jpg :cool:

No more lock-ons for me. Or 661 helmets :rolleyes:
I hope to be back riding by summer if everything works out.

Four plastic tabs to hold you on you're bike.. Just something to think about.

[GRIZZ]

urban haxor did that to his grips, but he was just riding into something or something like that and his chain failed him

[r3volution]

When was the last time you replaced the grips? Obviously if you took better care of your bike you could have realized that it was starting to go bad and you wouldnt have had a problem.

[Faithless]

Holy crap what an injury :o

[Lady Gravity]

geez, sounds like you're lucky to be alive :eek:

so, from what i understand, the grips came apart at the ring section and rolled forward on the bars so you did an endo? (simply put). mine are starting to creak and shift...not that i do road gaps (quite the opposite :o ) but maybe it's a sign

[corey@nsmb.com]

How old are the grips? You probably torqued them when you landed such a big jump, and perhaps previously fatigued grips failed.

But, if you landed that hard, the odds are that any grip would have rotated on you, and you still would have wiped.

Glad you are healing!

[Ari]

Originally posted by r3volution
When was the last time you replaced the grips? Obviously if you took better care of your bike you could have realized that it was starting to go bad and you wouldnt have had a problem.
I bought them like less than six months prior? The surface is still in good condition and they showed no warning whatsoever.
All previous odi grips that i had, lasted fine for like a year of riding, and had to be replaced because of massive wear.
Honestly, who thinks that grips might snap all of a sudden? It is just something that gets overlooked easily. Theyre just grips, right? :rolleyes:

The landing itself is smooth as hell. But there is a softer spot later on. That is where it went, i suppose.
It would have snapped anyways somewhere.. Just happened to do it at the worst place possible.. Luckily no trees involved :eek:

[peachy-B]

what would u use now if you're not going to use ODI? wouldn't the other ones be worst? ripping that plastic tab like that would require a lot of force.

there's also the possibility that that force happened after u lost control of the bike... and not due to it failing.

[corey@nsmb.com]

Originally posted by Ari
It is just something that gets overlooked easily. Theyre just grips, right? :rolleyes:


As a general rule you shouldn't overlook the rider contact points on your bike. Pedals, grips and saddles are super important components.

ODI's are reputable grips. Everything breaks though, hell, it could have been your handlebar or something worse :eek:

Big stunts break parts and make for worse injury potential. Very good to see you are mending up!

[Ari]

Originally posted by peachy-B
what would u use now if you're not going to use ODI? wouldn't the other ones be worst? ripping that plastic tab like that would require a lot of force.

there's also the possibility that that force happened after u lost control of the bike... and not due to it failing.

I was thinking on the line of reqular grips + glue + wire. Motocross style.

Yes, it is possible that it broke in the fall.
It would require leverage, wich is hard to come by with hitting the grip on to the gound. And there are no major sheds to the surface or anything.

On the other hand, I dont know how I could have crashed like that. It is just riding in a straight line basically, and the tranny was in mint condition.

Oh well. I quess we shall never know for sure.
Just be aware to all kinds of failure possibilities. You never know..

[Keefer]

Sounds crazy man, I hope you heal up.

When I think about the forces though, personally, I can't see that much torque going onto the grips. Unless oyu were really leaning forward, I don't see how they'd spin like that. After I land a drop, usually I get my weight back and rely on pushing against my bars as opposed to twisting the grips to stay on the bike. It just seems really weird to me that the tabs would break like that! I doubt it would be from the crash though, there's pretty much 0 chance of your grips getting trashed like that on a crash.

Very puzzling, but you're right, i don't think we'll ever know. I think your idea is the best one out there.

Heal up quick man, 25x40 is a huge gap :|

[Scott C]

you look like doc ock in spiderman 2...

get well soon man.

[Sobot_FR]

Originally posted by r3volution
When was the last time you replaced the grips? Obviously if you took better care of your bike you could have realized that it was starting to go bad and you wouldnt have had a problem.
^^^^^^^^^^
Sorry, but I really don't like you. All your posts are so negative. it sounds like you're "trying" to be cool by saying things like this. What? Did you used to have a past-experience of being uncool, so now you're trying to make up for it? Next time say something that can help the person, not put them down.

...just an observation

PS.

Yeah, that happens to a lot of ODI lock ons, happened to my friend.
...that's why I just stick to BMX grips, they don't really break, they just wear out.

[*GiMpY_jR*]

thats nuts I would never have thought of the grips breaking..:eek: get better man!... also I have to look at mine now

and r3volution do you ever have positive posts?

also how would you take better care of grips? tightening the bolts would do nothing for the plastic breaking... correct me if im wrong

[The_Titan]

Hope you heal up soon man! Always good to get out riding:thepimp: got any pics of this 25x40 road gap tho?

[r3volution]

Why has this turned into a post against me:lol:. I dont have positive posts, but you people choose to look at my negative ones.

[FOX]

Thats what happens to me everytime I ride lock on (the grip body tabs breaking).
Thats why I make the old school grips
( http://www.243racing.com/page157.htm ).

When ODI starts to produce it's design for other companies, I'd love to do a steel body version with our grips.

Your a tough f'er - I hope you heal well.

FOX

[skifreak]

had mine break too twice - seems to happen when the grip has a chance to rotate... one end more than the other... best option which I did was take a knife and score in some marks on the inside of the lock-on clamp - this will help it get a better grip on the handle bar...

[PegCityThrasher]

Fox: Why not build your grips around a Lock-On compatible sleeve already? Or is there something proprietary about the way they're maufactured? And ODI's not the only one making them. Oury has a Lock-On and Primo makes several of it's grips Lock-On compatible.

[FOX]

Originally posted by PegCityThrasher
Fox: Why not build your grips around a Lock-On compatible sleeve already? Or is there something proprietary about the way they're maufactured? And ODI's not the only one making them. Oury has a Lock-On and Primo makes several of it's grips Lock-On compatible.

Actually ODI makes all those grips and licences the logo use from those companies, and yes - ODI holds the rights to that design.

I have ideas, but I've been a little too busy too deal with them.
One day.

FOX

[Couch_Surfer]

the ODI idea is solid - but the feel is shit. would love to see a similar design that gives a better feel..... as for breaking - how bout making them out of metal, not plastic?

since i'm a computer guy, i'll let you engineer types tell me why my ideas are shit

[Tomi L]

Some pics :)
http://koti.welho.com/akemppa5/images/permakerse.jpg
http://www.killrider.com/temp/calpis/
And the landing is unfinished on those "calpis" pics

[ReCkLeSs RiDeR]

ah heal up:)

[inshane]

This is the whole reason why i dont run Odi lock-ons anymore...
Run something normal like Primo logo grips!! They are so comfy and they never twist.

I hope you heal up 100% before summer comes around :thepimp:

[Desloc]

Originally posted by r3volution
When was the last time you replaced the grips? Obviously if you took better care of your bike you could have realized that it was starting to go bad and you wouldnt have had a problem.

It's sound like you're emulating a rep that's fielding a warranty claim :lol:



Ari, heal up dude... that's a harsh bail. Let me tell you I've never considered my ODIs failing like that, although I've pretty much considered every other part on my bike that may fail resulting in bodily harm =/


Des

[Bryce]

I was thinking that 25x40 was exagerrating but those pics don't lie. Healing vibes to ya

[Aldo Nova]

Originally posted by Bryce
I was thinking that 25x40 was exagerrating but those pics don't lie. Healing vibes to ya

[levon]

happy to hear ur healing up :D wow u must have hit hard, i would guess it happen on the fall, not on the landing. but what do i know :D

[Ari]

This turned out to be an interesting thread.
So some have had some issues with lock-ons. Makes you think if lock-ons are the best bet for our sport with increasing speeds and hits in more and more demanding trails. And the bike parks of today increase stress to all parts with their ski lifts and dozens of runs/day.

Originally posted by mark_hoppus16
you look like doc ock in spiderman 2...

:D

FOX, your grips look nice! Ill ask if Tarmo (local importer of .243) has some.

There was also a video floating around in the vid section with that gap in it. Here is the link: http://koti.welho.com/akemppa5/video/ei_natsaa04.avi
It is right at the end, after the dirtjumps and street stuff. Meh, check it out if you are bored or w/e.

But thanks everybody for the healing karma :thepimp: Take care!

[0_o]

Originally posted by Ari
http://koti.welho.com/akemppa5/odi/
Ever seen this happening?


It's happened to me a couple of times.
Wrap the section of bar under the grip with some hockey or electricians tape to get things snug before cinching up the collars.
It'll prevent any movement which may eventually cause the plastic tabs to break and will give a more solid feel overall.
Prevents creaking too.
And make sure you grease those tiny teeny bolts so they don't seize on you.

[Timmigrant]

That drop is large and incharge! Healing vibes Ari, I hope you're rippin' again soon.

I personally having had any issues with the ODIs, and I run them on all my bikes. Something to keep in mind though. It'd suck a big nut if your grip failed at 70km/hr!

[Rosscofat]

I say its just a freak accident. its like a new chain snapping or your new rim folding. you never expect it but it does happen. :( sorry to hear your accident but thats a scar that could get the chicks ;)

[jeremyb]

Bad luck dude, that sux!

I wonder if they were over-tightened tho', they don't need to be done up much to work, heaps of people strip the heads from too much tightening, most bike bits don't need super amounts of torque :)