Burke: Galloway fix up!

[billop]

Today me and a couple of friends built a new bridge and a nice huck. We haven't yet built a ladder so part of the trail is blocked unless you take the huck. We will build the rollover next week, but if anyone wants to build one we won't be angry.:D

[125]

the "huck" is like 2 feet high

[billop]

ok so its not a big drop...just letting people know:S

[LostBoyScout]

Cool. I'm gonna go check it out this coming weekend as long as the weather is somewhat ok, hopefully I can spend some time in there helpin' out too. Anything I do will be very high quality, don't worry bout that :)

[billop]

Great! Maybe later we can turn Flywheel back into a decent trail. Hope to see you up there;)

[twofortythree]

yup

[ATN]

Originally posted by LostBoyScout
Cool. I'm gonna go check it out this coming weekend as long as the weather is somewhat ok, hopefully I can spend some time in there helpin' out too. Anything I do will be very high quality, don't worry bout that :)

We are planning a vics ride for some fun... we could do flywheel after and see what needs to be done.

[Pioter]

Not a bad idea, would we have time to do galloway?

[twofortythree]

im thinkning galloway after????:dizzy: :banana:

[ATN]

sure

[twofortythree]

fly wheel is prob a mess like always

[Pioter]

Thats why we wanna ride through flywheel, to find out what and where drain the pits.

[billop]

So we have all next week to fix up Flywheel :lol:

But really me pioter and burkebuilder gots a week of no schoolins.
:D:D:D so maybe we can build a few drainages.

[Pioter]

Finally, a week of no shool. We could build drains, but should we finish buildin on Gallo first?

[ATN]

Originally posted by Szymon
But really me pioter and burkebuilder gots a week of no schoolins.
:D:D:D so maybe we can build a few drainages.

:duh:

good thing your english is next semester... you need some work.

[Pioter]

The english exam was long. I still dont understand these drainages:???: . If the go across the trail then they need to be in one certain spot, instead of area. Do gutters like in a bowling alley work?:D :D

[twofortythree]

im lost illl just go wit the rocking technique

[billop]

I would think we should do something like this. http://www.nsmba.bc.ca/structures/structuresgood.htm Check the part about drainages:thepimp:

[Pioter]

:lol::lol: Riders avoid riding over drainages. Wont dirt collect up under the drain blocking flow of any water:???:. Rocking would be another option, but people would avoid rocks even more than a drain. Lets just see what happens when we do rock or put drainages in:fix:

[billop]

And then there is a last resort of just building a gianormously long ladder that just stretches half way across the trail :rolleyes: That would be fun and it would take alot of work and lots of maint. too.:thepimp:

[burke_rider]

you could put the drains diagonally across the trail with a like a small 1ft ladder over it.

[billop]

Hey thats not a bad idea. You have a lot of 2x4's right. They may not be environmentally friendly, but there aren't any creeks or rivers or that many plants close by.:thepimp:

[LostBoyScout]

The nsmba link has great drainage info. Also very important when actually building a trail is to try to keep it out of low spots! But that can't really be helped for galloway :) The drainages with small ladders over it is a good idea. you can also build a dirt jump beside the ladder over it too!! :thepimp:

[Pioter]

Oh, I think I understand:rolleyes:. We build drainages in the pits or anywhere that water collects that we have to ride through and we can leave water pits that arent in our way, cuz they add to the scenery :D:D

[KamaKazi]

I think I like the ladder/dirt jump idea.
I have been on trails like that before where they built ladders, dirt jumps over the creeks and it was loads of fun to ride. you just need to make sure that everything flows(both the water and the rythem of the trail.)

[twofortythree]

Originally posted by The ATN Machine
We are planning a vics ride for some fun... we could do flywheel after and see what needs to be done.

hopefully on sun cause i couldnt come on sat:(

[burke_rider]

Originally posted by KamaKazi
I think I like the ladder/dirt jump idea.
I have been on trails like that before where they built ladders, dirt jumps over the creeks and it was loads of fun to ride. you just need to make sure that everything flows(both the water and the rythem of the trail.)

if ther was a drain it would just keep on wearing down the jump making the gap bigger and the jump not stable. And another thing ur not gonna be able to hit any jumps unless u take down trees on upper galloway

[burke_rider]

Originally posted by Szymon
Hey thats not a bad idea. You have a lot of 2x4's right. They may not be environmentally friendly, but there aren't any creeks or rivers or that many plants close by.:thepimp:

if we want to be enviromentally friendly......u sed ther was no creeks but wher do you think the water comes from and wher do you think it goes?

[twofortythree]

the water comes from the clpoudes in the sky.....

[burke_rider]

Originally posted by burke_builder2
the water comes from the clpoudes in the sky.....

shut the :censored: up i ment the water comes down a creek then on to the trail

[Pioter]

So you're saying that a creek goes to flywheel then disappears:???:.

[ATN]

the water comes from the clpoudes in the sky.....

the worst spots on galloway are caused by creek overflow and seepage through the soil.

So you're saying that a creek goes to flywheel then disappears

Flywheel is intertwined with that creek all the way down. Flywheel started off as a hiking trail by that creek... then was converted to a mountain bike trail. In someplaces flywheel is the creek....

[billop]

I noticed that when it rains, its almost like a life or death situation on those ladders. If you fall off you land in one of the lakes beside them and drown. They need some serious draining. Thats like a first priority thing.:thepimp:

[LostBoyScout]

Funny thing is I've always wanted to build a ladder trail elevated over a creek that followed the creek for a while. Building ladders over water is fine, as long as the ladders are easy enough for all the riders who ride the trail, and also are hiker-friendly (read: rungs CLOSE TOGETHER). :) Tough lines should always be alternate lines, with a well-thought out easy line included! (Which is sometimes a pain in the ass!)

[Pioter]

A ladder that goes from beggining to end of flywheel sounds cool, some of those puddles go as deep as my hubs and i almost endoed in one. we should build alot of neat and clean ladders.

[KamaKazi]

i'm in

[billop]

We just need to make sure that they're high enough to avoid the highest stream when it's been raining a while. High ladders are fun...and maybe scary for some of the newbs riding the trail.:rolleyes: :thepimp:

[LostBoyScout]

I enjoy ladders and the like, but the tougher ones need to be kept on higher/less known trails.. so to avoid conflict, and being destroyed or taken down by those not in the know.

[billop]

Yea i guess. Just long wide ladders for now then. :D:thepimp:

[Pioter]

Long ladders, that should be the new reroute. Just one long ladder with drops to the side and skinneys to another side and teeters along the way:D

[LostBoyScout]

Ladder to logride to ladder to teeter to logride to drop to ladder to... yes t'would be good :D

[Pioter]

I knew i was forgeting something, the log rides. That wood be a site, the ultimate trail, not even touching the ground, heh:D:D.

[billop]

Sure it would. We would need a lot of materials tho. And would have to put a lot of effort into it. Hey who knows, we might actually do this. I think we should turn flywheel into this trail. Or maybe we should wait and see what happens, then reroute around the houses.:thepimp:

[LostBoyScout]

I'm going to go wander the woods this weekend, I think if you go farther up you'll find areas much more usable for that kind of trail - many more fallen trees to allow log riding (I think the more natural stuff you can use over built stuff, the better personally).

Adding more ladders to Flywheel works for me too :) Maybe extend some of the logrides already build with more ladder work too?

[billop]

Just got back from Upper Galloway. Fun fun, we built a 4-5 foot drop. Good stuff. Now we have to fix up Flywheel. Still needs a lot fo work. :thepimp:

[Pioter]

The drop is fun, but its not straight:(. I've given up hope for flywheel.

[LostBoyScout]

haha yeah flywheel is a tough one. another thing about repairing the bottom sections - well trail repair is done for two reasons: one, for the rider's enjoyment, but also for the environmental aspect - keeping the forest pretty. Well if it's going to get flattened, that's a little more of an impact :D

I think it would be smarter to get started on the reroute. What would be really cool actually, would be to find out from the city exactly what is being planned to be developed and what will be left alone, so we could be safe. Hmm..

[billop]

Great, we don't need to reroute Flywheel. Now we can build all the bridges and ladders and structures neccesary for maximum fun.:thepimp:

[ATN]

Originally posted by Szymon
Great, we don't need to reroute Flywheel. Now we can build all the bridges and ladders and structures neccesary for maximum fun.:thepimp:

Not nessecarily. They are already surveying on Flywheel, so some sections may need to be rerouted.

What we really need is someone with a mapping gps to ride the trail and create a map of it. Compare that with the city's Official Community Plan... and we can prepare ourselves.