DNV Trail User Survey

[Sharon]

The following is the trail user survey conducted by the DNV last year on Seymour and Fromme.

http://www.dnv.org/upload/documents//planning/Alpine/Alpine%20Survey%20Results.pdf

90% of the users are Mountain bikers!
46% riding on a weekly basis!

[Putty]

interesting that its mostly 30 to 40 year olds...i guess the groms keep to the street and stake parks.

[Team2K]

cool... i'm in the 90% and 46% :D

[Putty]

me 2, when I have a bike.

[Team2K]

Originally posted by putty
interesting that its mostly 30 to 40 year olds...i guess the groms keep to the street and stake parks.

ya... and 20-30 year olds is almost as high.... yet 10-20 year olds were only ~1/4 of either group...

[well ridden]

Originally posted by TeamK2
ya... and 20-30 year olds is almost as high.... yet 10-20 year olds were only ~1/4 of either group...

a lot of them can not get out there

[derwood]

Originally posted by well ridden
a lot of them can not get out there

Try pedalling........

So does this mean that the needs of riders will be taken more seriously when policy decisions are made in the future?

[Sharon]

only if this user group is louder then the other user groups.

they didn't spent $33,000 after a mountain biker complained...

http://bb.nsmb.com/newforum/showthread.php?s=&threadid=46896

[Zedbra]

I meet these averages......and I have a full eight inches

[Team2K]

8.1 eNVious?

[well ridden]

Originally posted by derwood
Try pedalling........

so your telling me to ride my 50lb bike with full face and back pack from port coquitlam to fromme??

[derwood]

sure,give it a shot.It'll be good for ya,put hair on your chest!!

[Incorrigible]

Two points come to mind:

1. Slightly older usually equals slightly more income, therefore higher potential impact on the local economy

2. Young people can't read anymore, so they didn't fill out the form.

[TheGiggler]

^^

i think the survery is pretty accurate in terms of age...

anyone who can't drive often has a hard time getting to the mountain, and obivously doing shuttles. sure some get rides from their parents, but not that many.

and, not to slag the kids of today, but when I see riders pedalling up the Cypress or Seymour road on big bikes, 90% of the time it's older people as the study shows...

i think this is why mtb street is so in these days ;) :)

[skifreak]

I like the survey option for getting there - "run" hahaha - maybe a cyclocross rider?

[TheGiggler]

i think that option was for the trail runners.

that survery will be WAY off on trail runners... they are gonna slip in all over the place, definitely not at the survey spots for the most part :)

[sanrensho]

Originally posted by Incorrigible
Two points come to mind:

2. Young people can't read anymore, so they didn't fill out the form.

As one of the volunteers that was involved in this survey, I can tell you that this is not the case. (I'm referring to the part about young people filling out the survey, not about whether they can read.:))

At least on Seymour, we only saw a few groups of groms. The overwhelming majority of riders were in their 20's/30's. Everybody that came through the Mushroom trailhead was asked to fill out the surveys, regardless of their age.

If anything, I would say that the groms were more willing to stop and take the time to fill out the survey. Whereas some adult riders were in a rush to get down the trail.

[Sharon]

I did a few stints at Riverside Drive. The proportion of runners at this point was a lot bigger. There were also more residents and dog walkers.

If we were able to get people doing the survey near St. Mary's I bet we would have got a lot more runners and dog walkers there as well.

[Team2K]

My parents live on St. Mary's and are dog walkers :P They are freaked out by the armor-clad mountain bikers doing high speed manuals down the road in front of their house after seeing a bad crash after one guy ran into another. They have walked up a mountain bike trail (dunno which one) with the dog and were mortified by the stunts. I told them it was probably best if they stayed off the biking trails and stick to the hiking trails, just to be safe in case they were walking up a run out to a drop or something.

Whats a good line to get from UOC to St. Mary's or St. Georges? I'd like to end up at their house one day after a ride. I usually just do the trails that end up back at Mountain Highway or McNair or the BP (and once the Dempsey trail).

[Sharon]

Originally posted by TeamK2
. They have walked up a mountain bike trail (dunno which one) with the dog and were mortified by the stunts.

Probably Groovula


Whats a good line to get from UOC to St. Mary's or St. Georges? I'd like to end up at their house one day after a ride. I usually just do the trails that end up back at Mountain Highway or McNair or the BP (and once the Dempsey trail).

Brew will take you to Prospect Pt or you can go along the BP until you get to Groovula and head down to St. Mary's. St Mary's trail actually starts Off Dempsey trail, crosses Lower Crippler, Diggger and Boundary and comes out right at St. Mary's. MOre XC at this point.

[switch]

I remember working on Ned's on a winter Saturday. Got there really early - still dark. No bikers came down for at least a couple hours. But in those first couple hours, there were over 20 trail runners going up the trail.

I believe that trail runners don't keep MTBer hours. ;)

[aShogunNamedMarcus]

Originally posted by switch
I remember working on Ned's on a winter Saturday. Got there really early - still dark. No bikers came down for at least a couple hours. But in those first couple hours, there were over 20 trail runners going up the trail.

I believe that trail runners don't keep MTBer hours. ;)

Perhaps they're trying to avoid any high speed encounters (read: collisions) with the 2 wheeled kind?

[switch]

Originally posted by aShogunNamedMarcus
Perhaps they're trying to avoid any high speed encounters (read: collisions) with the 2 wheeled kind?

I'm more inclined to think they live a healthy lifestyle, including getting up early.