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FruitOfTheLude
09-16-2004, 12:33 PM
No!. I am a Rider, I am a skateboarder, and i can tell you without a doubt the mountain bikes do not belong in skateparks. The lines and flow ofa skatepark is designed for a little wooden board with four little polyurethane wheels, and that little wooden thing with those little wheels is designed for that park. now these big two wheeld softy things are designed for those big muddy rocky things that were created by the continental shift or glaciation. Mountain bikes are for the mountain. i hate all this new school street shit, the street is not a mountain, pegs do not belong on a suspended bike. the last few times i have been skating at the park and almost been steamrolled by some idiot on their mountain bike and i kindly point out to them the fact that there are no mountain bikes allowed in the skatepark they RAGE at me. Its a load of shit, they are called mountain bikes for a reason. i have been riding as long as i can remember and i dont see the reason one would want to waste their time and suspension in a park the was built for dude standing on wheely bords. i dunno im rambling, but leave street and park to bmx and skateboards. flame away but 1its the truth




KamRiderGuy
09-16-2004, 12:37 PM
yeah and your trend board isnt called a parkboard either, so what mtb riders ride a skatepark, i ride both my local skateparks and nobody says anything, is long as it isnt crowded who cares

yellowdogx
09-16-2004, 12:49 PM
Edit:

I really don't give a fuck anymore argue all you want I give up.

END.

SEKTER13
09-16-2004, 12:49 PM
and i dont see the reason one would want to waste their time and suspension in a park the was built for dude standing on wheely bords.

I dont see why someone would waste there energy in telling people to get out of a public park. The only problem with anyone(not just mtbers) is that they dont have good park manners. If everyone takes there turn and doenst cut anyone off there is no problem. The real problem is people like you telling people to get out. Why dont you take the time and calmly explain to them that its not polite to snake lines and cut people off. Everyone CAN get along if everyone was more understanding. Also the reason one would want to ride park on a mtb is cause its fun. I ride bmx and mtb, yes bmx makes a lil more sense in park, but who really cares? If there having fun thats all that matters, thats the whole point of all this is it not? Also some people love riding park but cant afford a bmx too.

Kye
09-16-2004, 12:53 PM
Originally posted by pincushion13M
I dont see why someone would waste there energy in telling people to get out of a public park. The only problem with anyone(not just mtbers) is that they dont have good park manners. If everyone takes there turn and doenst cut anyone off there is no problem. The real problem is people like you telling people to get out. Why dont you take the time and calmly explain to them that its not polite to snake lines and cut people off. Everyone CAN get along if everyone was more understanding. Also the reason one would want to ride park on a mtb is cause its fun. I ride bmx and mtb, yes bmx makes a lil more sense in park, but who really cares? If there having fun thats all that matters, thats the whole point of all this is it not? Also some people love riding park but cant afford a bmx too.

ditto:) :)

blinded
09-16-2004, 01:11 PM
all i know is that whenever a mtb'er shows up at the park, they seem to take alot of delight in jumping fromt the spine to flat.

there is one guy that is awesome at park though, he rides a spot. luke something. i havent seen him there for a long time but its too bad they all get branded cause most mtb'ers like to use their shocks to absorb drops off the deck. have some good etiquette and stop jumping the box jump over and over and theres no problem. but like i said, that one guy is an awesome rider and he has better manners than any skater there, so its really a never ending cycle.

Troup
09-16-2004, 01:16 PM
Yes, I agree with you for the most part! I ride and skate as well too and mountain bikes have the word "mountain" in the name for a reason=They're built for rocky,root infested trails with bridges, seesaws, hucks and dirt jumps and at most skateparks, especially flat street parks (eg. AMB, Centennial, Strathcona), Mountain Bikers just don't really seem to belong. I can understand wanting to ride parks with lots of transition (eg. Hastings, Kirkstone, Seylynn, Griffin, Richmond, Whistler and Parkgate), but that's a different issue. I ride the local park in Sechelt but only when skaters are at a minimum. I think it's called a skatepark for a reason, They are made for skateboards, it's not a bloody mtn.-bike park, that's Whistler and Sun Peaks in the summer. Get off the parks on your bikes or get interested in "bicycle motocross. At times skateparks are fun to ride, but certainly not everyday.

Duncan
09-16-2004, 01:33 PM
Originally posted by yellowdogx
I dont ride the skateparks but my and yours taxes pay for them, so I have as much right to be there as you have to bring your chuck of plywood and plastic wheels up to upper oil can...meet you there!


Yeah, and because I pay taxes doesn't mean anyone can tell me I have to drive my car on the right-hand side of the road, either. I have as much right to the left-hand side of the road as anyone. D.

SEKTER13
09-16-2004, 01:36 PM
Many new school "Mountain bikes" are not really mountain bikes at all, they were designed and produced to ride in urban areas and in parks. The only reason there still called "mountain bikes" is cause theyre branded that way simply because there a little larger then a bmx. MTB is facing the same uphill struggle that snowboarding and skateboarding had. In 10 years I doubt many people will slag people for riding a bigger urban bike. Some bmx pros use 24" cruisers for just ripping around. Riding will be better when people stop using the stupid BMX vs MTB thing. There should be just steet/park bikes, dirt bikes, mountain bikes(for actualy mountains) ect. Regardless of size. Not sure im making sense and probally just rambling ah well, my 2Ē.

SEKTER13
09-16-2004, 01:38 PM
Yeah, and because I pay taxes doesn't mean anyone can tell me I have to drive my car on the right-hand side of the road, either. I have as much right to the left-hand side of the road as anyone. D.

Worst comparison ever.

Kevan
09-16-2004, 01:59 PM
The way I look at it, although itīs a different environment is this: If some one built a "MTB specefic" DJ park, I wouldnīt want a swarm of BMXers showing up and hitting only the jumps that they can do well on a BMX. I can completely see why people who actually skate are the ones who donīt like bikes in the park. I agree that we donīt belong in a park, but hey...untill the city wants to make an MTB park everyones gonna have to learn how to get along. If itīs got wheels its good in my books.

Brad Dawg
09-16-2004, 02:05 PM
Originally posted by Duncan
Yeah, and because I pay taxes doesn't mean anyone can tell me I have to drive my car on the right-hand side of the road, either. I have as much right to the left-hand side of the road as anyone. D.


DUDE!! thats the worst comparison ever!!! i think you'd better just stick to the right hand side...

because i pay my taxes i should have the right to ride up ALINE and RIDE down the chairlift!

j tizzle
09-16-2004, 02:05 PM
a bike is a tool and you should always use the right tool for the job...a mountain bike beeing the right tool for the mountain. but at the same time i could really care less what your riding, as long as your not snaking everyone its all good. i think its kinda cool seeing a good shocker rip up the park sometimes...they interpret the terain a little differently, it can give you some ideas for new lines amd whatnot. personally tho i'll stick to my bmx, i dont care if i look funny on it..

aShogunNamedMarcus
09-16-2004, 02:13 PM
Nor do I care if I look funny on my Evil in a park.

BMXer's and skaters can say what they want but usually they're ok as I like to think I dont snake anyone and wait till the line I want is open.

Bryce
09-16-2004, 02:46 PM
its one thing if you're cruising through once in a while, but if you're riding the park a lot why not get a BMX? A BMX kills a MTB for that stuff

SEKTER13
09-16-2004, 02:51 PM
its one thing if you're cruising through once in a while, but if you're riding the park a lot why not get a BMX? A BMX kills a MTB for that stuff

I agree for the most part. If you want a bigger rig buy a cruiser. However some people who ride a lot of park, also ride an equal amount of trails. Sometimes they cant afford to have 2 bikes. Im currently in this category. I no longer have a bmx, just my mtb. Id love nothing more then to have another bmx, but I can barely afford university and still keep my mtb running. I prefer riding trails, so I kept the mtb instead of the bmx. I dont ride as much park as I used to. But when I do I bust out my dually, borrowing friends bmx's if theyre with me, I let em ride around on my mtb too, they have fun too. The way I see it is, as long as your polite to people, dont snake runs, no muddy tires or anything like that, then by all means do whatever the hell you want long as it makes you happy and you have fun.

Shocker
09-16-2004, 03:13 PM
As long as ur not in there with 2 shocks and mud on ur tires I say its fine, as well as not snaking of course.

eeyun
09-16-2004, 03:26 PM
This brings up another point.

Do longboarders belong in bike lanes or on bike routes?

:rolleyes:

Hasn't this topic been beaten to death yet?

Mountain Dewd
09-16-2004, 03:30 PM
^ werd, mtbers should be respectfull, and riding a dually in a park is just dumb. but bikes are bikes, if bmx's are let in, mtbers should be too.

bmx stands for bicycle motocross. not exactly the perfect discription for a skatepark toy.

but if mtbers are respectful and understand the culture of the skatepark its no biggie imo. there are plenty of jackass skaters and 20inchers that will get in your way more than your average mountain biker.

if you want mountain bikers out, start your own private park, and do whatever the fuck you want.

as far as the street argument goes, i have more fun riding my hardtail with a 4 in fork then a rigid 20 inch. whatever. we all ride bikes, bmx or mtb. i have shown up bmxers talking shit, and plenty of bmxers have shown me cool stuff. i ride with em a lot. i just hate the ignorant comments that come from the 10 year old newbs.

I agree that some parks just arent good for bikes, especcially 26 inch wheeled ones. but even if the trannies are tight you can still have fun, and there is no reason that you should be kicked out cause you have big wheels.


ahh. yah

Incorrigible
09-16-2004, 03:39 PM
Are you guys all 12? Cause that's what you sound like.
If everybody uses MANNERS there wouldn't be any problems.

Marsenault
09-16-2004, 03:56 PM
I do ride my dually in the park once in a while. only because its the only thing i have. i go when its not busy. I used to ride bmx. I sold it. I have ridden urban bikes. small bikes with 24" wheels and little front suspension and its way more comfortable to me than a tiny bmx. I dont see what is wrong with urban bikes. Its not my thing. i can see why skaters get pissed off though, i would too.

M.W.
09-16-2004, 04:22 PM
Swimming Pools aren't designed for skateboards, so I guess skateboarding should just shut itself down since they were skating pools before there were parks.

Fuck, everyone needs to just shut the fuck up and ride. Including me. If someone cares about MTB being bad at park because the wheels are bigger and "you'd be better on a bmx" boo hoo. Go die.

NOM4D
09-16-2004, 04:28 PM
NO WAY! mountain bikes are for me and shaun palmer to ride only. if you are not me or him, you should buy a road bike and call your self "lance" and only listen to sheryl crow.

ReCkLeSs RiDeR
09-16-2004, 04:29 PM
meh I ride my rigid ht in the park-no suspension and I like it. Is it wrong to enjoy it? I try my best to stay out of eveyones way and I only hit something once it looks like no one else is going.

the flying moose
09-16-2004, 05:19 PM
who cares? its all about respect. follow park rules and learn proper park etiquette. if everyone does that then there shouldnt be a reason why bikes, boards, blades, scooters, unicycles, and freestyle extreme runners cant get along.

GNARLY MAN
09-16-2004, 05:29 PM
Originally posted by eeyun
This brings up another point.

Do longboarders belong in bike lanes or on bike routes?

:rolleyes:

Hasn't this topic been beaten to death yet?

werd, thread ended here ^^

skimtb1
09-16-2004, 05:31 PM
meh, ride all you want in skateparks, but why not focus on what is unique to mountain biking? not what skateboards or bmsex's excel at:)

VancouverIslguy
09-16-2004, 06:07 PM
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v258/darktrunks100/horsebeating.bmp

Brock rocks.

NOM4D
09-16-2004, 06:10 PM
Originally posted by VancouverIslguy
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v258/darktrunks100/horsebeating.bmp
ahhaaa, didnt brock draw that like 2 years ago?

brock
09-16-2004, 06:11 PM
at least give me credit for that masterpiece

drunken_duncan
09-16-2004, 06:26 PM
Originally posted by brock
at least give me credit for that masterpiece

awesomest drawing ever.

END THREAD.

shore king
09-16-2004, 06:27 PM
does ur mom belong in my bed? no, but for sum reason she's always int here anyways

drunken_duncan
09-16-2004, 06:29 PM
i said end thread damnit....

DaveM
09-16-2004, 06:30 PM
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v57/inkpay55/smilies/beatadeadhorse.gif

VancouverIslguy
09-16-2004, 06:30 PM
Originally posted by brock
at least give me credit for that masterpiece

done and done.

NOM4D
09-16-2004, 06:44 PM
Originally posted by brock
at least give me credit for that masterpiece
iheartbrock, of course i give him props.

matt shaw
09-16-2004, 07:50 PM
bahhhh ive riddin a bmx and HATE IT way to short for my likin i can improve alot more on my snipes then a short ass bmx. i bet you one day the word "skateboard partk" will become universal with just a place to ride with cool stunts, well at least i hope so.

blinded
09-16-2004, 08:10 PM
I suppose the reason that most don't understand why justin is mad is cause your from vancouver. in van there are alot of kids on mtb's that are really good at riding parks, and are no different than any other skater or bmx'er. here it seems that the mtb's show up in packs and see who can jump the box jump the fastest and almost kill someone, or pedal as fast as you can off the deck. whatever bike you ride it really doesn't matter, but if your a douche and don't know how to not run into anything its not good just like any other person. ITS BOGGLING

superman_4
09-16-2004, 08:11 PM
why do people care so much about others instead of just focusing on themselves? ill bet if you spent half the time you spent bitching on actually skating you would be twice as good as you are now. if someone is snaking you or having bad etiquette, ask them to stop, no matter what they are riding (bmx, mtb, skateboard, razor scooter, frootboot, etc). When I go to the skatepark I ride for MYSELF, and I dont care what other people are doing. this is such an immature thread :rolleyes:

NOM4D
09-16-2004, 08:47 PM
freakin, most skateparks in california dont allow any kinds of bikes, bmx or mountain.
i get some flak when i ride at bmx night at vans skatepark in milpitas, but my friend who really rips it doesnt. (we are both on mountain bikes).

marksnet
09-16-2004, 09:01 PM
i ride what is called a mountain bike in a park, it has locked out forks a 24's. i also skate. im fine in the park, the real big bikes arnt' but if they want to come jump the box jump or whichever they do thats fine, we could jsut all getalong you know? its not that much of an inconvinience. latley i have been skating the whole time, so i know where your coming from.

M13
09-17-2004, 12:43 AM
why skaters hate big bikes in park:

- when you crash into them, most likely they get hurt way more

- they have to put more effort to get speed while you have your gears and easy pedalling. when you cut them off they have to do it over again, while all you have to do to gain speed again is to pedal couple times.

-they cant stop as fast as disk brakes can

i used to ride a huge bike at sk8 park because i could not afford small bikes and ride it there seperately. now that my big bike is broken i used my bmx more and got to love it alot more. if my big bike is fxed i probably wont ride the big bike at the sk8.

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M.W.
09-17-2004, 01:31 AM
Originally posted by brock
at least give me credit for that masterpiece

HOYLFUCKINGSHIT!!!

*heart* IT'S B-ROCK

(I met him once. I'm pretty sure he later denied it.)

Carbuncle
09-17-2004, 06:25 AM
I'm old, crabby, and I don't like listening to a bunch of bullshit when I ride, so I tend to ride park at about 7-8am, when the kiddies are still passed out or rocking the playstation and waiting for a ride to the park. ALL the lines are wide open, if there's glass or dirt in the bowl I'll clean it out, and when I'm gone no-one knows (except the golfers in the muni golf course next to my favorite spot, who choke and stutter at the drops and lines, and then become mysteriously silent when I take off my helmet to ventilate my big, bald head...) Sounds like some folks who ride the parks while others are there need to get some manners: as a former skater (the "Gator" Rogowski deck with Gullwings and big fat spacers, thank you) for years and BMX-er from back in the day when Kuwahara, Redline, and the PK Ripper where hot (mmm...Suntour gold-anodized cranks...mmm)I can say that we're all after the same thing through slightly different means, so why be jackasses to each other?

SR!
09-17-2004, 10:44 AM
:r:

brock
09-17-2004, 12:08 PM
http://www.brockmcnally.com/albums/album10/gay.gif

Late Bloomer
09-17-2004, 01:08 PM
This has been a good waste of a solid 15 min. of my life - I should be demanding a refund. There ARE some good points being made along the way though.
I don't ride skateparks only because I much prefer the dirt and lack the skills (in my mind) to ride them.
After reading this near-disaster of a thread, I have made some conclusions...
1st - most MTB's we ride these days are "freeride" spec'd...what is freeriding? (this is your chance to think about it).
2nd - If an mtb shouldn't be allowed in a SKATEpark, then why would a bmx?
3rd - STFU, get out there and ride whatever it is you like to ride. Learn to appreciate and respect what others are doing around you no matter what they do it with.
4th - Those that do use 26" bikes do need to be respectful of those that do have priority over the park. No muddy tires/bikes and be aware/respectful of others.
5th - If somebody on a 26" rig has the skills to flow a skatepark, then let them do it! Hell, you might actually learn something from those people.
6th - Some people need to stop worrying about everybody else's lives and focus on their own. Life it too short to get your panties in a bundle over something of this nature.

As mentioned earlier, everybody out there is into for basically the same thing...share the freaking vibes, folks!

p.s. - If anything, I would expect people to flame off on rollerbladers.;)

umbullit
09-17-2004, 01:16 PM
andy= :thepimp:

Well said..

Scryder
09-17-2004, 01:26 PM
you must like to just not have fun.....and come on here and tell people they cant ride where they want? thats laame and people dont put pegs on MTB.....thats just dumb but if you dont like MTB in skateparks then you can just go ride what you want to...:D

rfoubi
09-17-2004, 01:31 PM
i think the point is that the mountainbikers in kamloops who go to the park(for the most part) give riders a bad name, because as everyone already said, they dont know how to ride it. As long as people are obeying the "rules" of the park, they should be all allowed to enjoy the park though.

however,( this is a bit of a stretch) what if some dirt bikers wanted to hit the park? is that taking it too far? most would say yes, but where do you draw the line? I mean yes the park is designed for skateboarding, but if you look at it that way, and mountain bikers cant hit the park, then all of the skaters should stay off the stairs, rails, etc in the rest of the city since they were not "designed for skateboarding"

i dont know if im making any sense, but i just think that the issue is complicated, and no matter how much people like to think one way, everyone has different opinions and there is no real right answer.

and oh ya justin i guess you should stay out of the "snowboard park" on your double pointed skis then:eek: :lol:

ps got your pass yet?

rfoubi
09-17-2004, 01:34 PM
Originally posted by Scryder
you must like to just not have fun.....and come on here and tell people they cant ride where they want? thats laame and people dont put pegs on MTB.....thats just dumb but if you dont like MTB in skateparks then you can just go ride what you want to...:D


so first you say justin cant tell people what to ride or whre, then you go on to say that people using pegs on mtbs are "dumb"? seems a little hypocritical

Brad Dawg
09-17-2004, 01:48 PM
i dont know what all of the huff is about, ive never really had much of a problem at skate parks. If you can anticipate where people are going, then its fine. As soon as you start cutting people off, your hooped!

Broken Fusion!
09-17-2004, 01:55 PM
there wouldn't be a problem if the damn kids who show up on their brodie 9 ball with full armor and fullface covered in mud from riding rose hill, didn't show up at the park and truck around with no notice of the other users

thad
09-17-2004, 01:58 PM
"First we had skateboarders and BMX riders, and then the dignity of the halfpipe was blemished by the arrival of rollerbladers....but why stop there?"

http://members.shaw.ca/glurt/f/halfpipe/unicycle.jpg

http://members.shaw.ca/glurt/f/halfpipe/stilts.jpg

http://members.shaw.ca/glurt/f/halfpipe/wheelchair.jpg

http://members.shaw.ca/glurt/f/halfpipe/horse3.jpg

http://members.shaw.ca/glurt/f/halfpipe/lawn.jpg


http://www.kickersny.com/video.php?video=20

NOM4D
09-17-2004, 02:05 PM
Originally posted by SR!
:r:
SHUTUP SR!!!!:mad:

M.W.
09-17-2004, 02:10 PM
Originally posted by NOM4D
SHUTUP SR!!!!:mad:

Yeah, he's a jerlk.

NOM4D
09-17-2004, 02:19 PM
Originally posted by M.W.
Yeah, he's a jerlk.
you too, you horse hockey playing monkey face.;) :cool: :thepimp: :eek:

M.W.
09-17-2004, 02:28 PM
Originally posted by NOM4D
you too, you horse hockey playing monkey face.;) :cool: :thepimp: :eek:

OH SNAP.

Oh yeah, if you go up to seattle, Brian and I wanna drive down and get hassled by the Renton PD again.

Hey, I can drink down there now too. Radical.

derwood
09-17-2004, 02:30 PM
Originally posted by thad
"First we had skateboarders and BMX riders, and then the dignity of the halfpipe was blemished by the arrival of rollerbladers....but why stop there?"

http://members.shaw.ca/glurt/f/halfpipe/unicycle.jpg

http://members.shaw.ca/glurt/f/halfpipe/stilts.jpg

http://members.shaw.ca/glurt/f/halfpipe/wheelchair.jpg

http://members.shaw.ca/glurt/f/halfpipe/horse3.jpg

http://members.shaw.ca/glurt/f/halfpipe/lawn.jpg


http://www.kickersny.com/video.php?video=20

ABSOLUTE FREAKIN GOLD!!!!!!!!:D :D :D

NOM4D
09-17-2004, 02:33 PM
Originally posted by M.W.
OH SNAP.

Oh yeah, if you go up to seattle, Brian and I wanna drive down and get hassled by the Renton PD again.

Hey, I can drink down there now too. Radical.
i am gonna be there DOIT#772!

Late Bloomer
09-17-2004, 03:44 PM
:lol:Way to go, thad!!:lol:

Funny you should post that, 'cuz I was thinking "what would they think if some bros showed up in wheelchairs?". The rodeo one was the one that eventually got me ROTFLMAO.

Best post of the day as far as I am concerned:thepimp:

M.W.
09-17-2004, 03:54 PM
Originally posted by NOM4D
i am gonna be there DOIT#772!

Radicalx9

Millstone
09-17-2004, 09:56 PM
bleh, just use common sense and no one minds. hack it up on a big bike w/ dorpz to falt and you're owning no one but yourself.

spookymilk
09-18-2004, 12:08 AM
I think it's alright riding a MTB in skatepark even if it is just a large BMX. I'd ride MTB so I don't have to ride a cramped bike that pretty much only fits a 10 year old right. Also, what's wrong with a suspension...why should you have to be "forced" to put yourself through the punishment (for some people) of riding ridgid when you can just have more fun when the edge is taken off of some stuff. I know that BMX is way ahead of us, but so what, we're just riding bikes :)

RiDiCuLoUs
09-18-2004, 12:23 AM
bikes belong, as long as you dont get in the way its cool, i act, as if i was invitred there, and jsut stick to one area, like a quarter, adn jsut sesh one thing, and not move arund, alot:)

Zu
09-18-2004, 12:55 AM
personally, i beleive that most of this sports progress is happening at skateparks, and most of us cant ride this "glacier-formated mountains" you are talkin about every day.

skatepark is fun, whining and bitching about things that you cant control isn't.

M.W.
09-18-2004, 01:49 AM
Originally posted by MiniZu
skatepark is fun, whining and bitching about things that you cant control isn't.

I hate fun. Fun sucks.