manual vs wheelie

[axisofevelknievel]

What's the difference between a manual and a wheelie? It seems like the terms are used interchangeably, and I wasn't sure whether that was because they were in fact the same thing or whether people were using the terms incorrectly. Is it similar to how snowboarders use the skate term 'switch' when they really mean 'fakie' because it sounds cooler?

[derwood]

wheelie=peddaling

manuel=coasting

[*GiMpY_jR*]

Originally posted by derwood
wheelie=peddaling

manuel=coasting

and your front wheel is in the air but if your back one is in the air its a nose wheelie or nose manual!

[derwood]

its "Manuel" ,A Mexican bicycle manuvre from the 70's:bandit:

[Battlecat]

Switch jsut souds cool compared to fakie

but manual and wheel are different, as said above^^^^^^

[LOBOTIDULATOR]

if wheelies are pedaling then whats a catwalk?chopped liver?!?!?!?

wheelies=lifting up your front and or back wheel for a short period of time

manuals=lifting and holding your front and or rear wheel for a prolonged period of time

catwalks=lifting and holding your front wheel up by means of pedaling your ass off to stay up

[coverider]

catwalk is just the n00b way of saying, and doing a wheelie.

[wheeler]

manuals are almost always standing up and wheelies are mostly sitting down.
but not always. jsut from what i've seen.

[samsquampsh]

manuals are 10 times harder

[Wes]

Hahaha. So many differen confusing posts.

I'll lay it out for you.

Wheelie: pedaling wjile keeping your front wheel in the air.

Manuel: Keeping your front wheel in the air with out pedaling. (takes more skill).

[Putty]

wheelie - peddaling to find sweet spot and keep bike there
manual - shifting weigth to find sweet spot and keep bike there

[TheGiggler]

some will tell you the difference is...

wheelie - pedalling while seated
cat walk - padalling while standing

[brock]

Originally posted by axisofevelknievel
Is it similar to how snowboarders use the skate term 'switch' when they really mean 'fakie' because it sounds cooler?

I hate the switch/fakie thing. Most skaters don't even use it right. You have to actually "switch" your stance to call it switch. Not just ride backward.

When I lived in Utah and snowboarded just about every day, I'd set my board up switch and go cruise on hardpack days just to mix it up. It is a much different deal that riding backward.

I don't expect anyone to really care what I think but I figured I'd get that off my chest anyway.

[NickS]

Manual- keeping front wheel up w/o pedaling

Wheelie- Pedaling standing or seated to keep the front wheel up.

Catwalk -noob way of saying either of above. Please people let it die never use it again.

[DangerousDean]

what about a pop-a-wheelies ?

[brock]

Originally posted by NickS

Catwalk -noob way of saying either of above. Please people let it die never use it again.
I've never said catwalk in my life but I am gong to start now just to annoy you. I'll stop when you stop saying this


Switch and fakie are the same


;) :D



EDIT: hey you edited your post dammit! :D

[Revscene]

Originally posted by brock
I hate the switch/fakie thing. Most skaters don't even use it right. You have to actually "switch" your stance to call it switch. Not just ride backward.

When I lived in Utah and snowboarded just about every day, I'd set my board up switch and go cruise on hardpack days just to mix it up. It is a much different deal that riding backward.

I don't expect anyone to really care what I think but I figured I'd get that off my chest anyway.

i dont know how snowboarders do it... i dont think you could really call it switch or fakie, cause you are really not switching your stance or foot position, your just doing the same thing 180 degrees different. on a skateboard, fakie, would be riding your board with your feet in the normal position, but rolling the oppositie of the normal direction, ie: normal rear foot at the front. switch is rolling normal direction with the bad foot at the back

[well ridden]

a wheelie isnt a cat walk, its just when you lift your tire off the ground like when you were little and you were like watch me pop a wheelie

[Oysterboyz]

I can't do any of those so I don't bother...

[brock]

Originally posted by Revscene
i dont know how snowboarders do it... i dont think you could really call it switch or fakie, cause you are really not switching your stance or foot position, your just doing the same thing 180 degrees different. on a skateboard, fakie, would be riding your board with your feet in the normal position, but rolling the oppositie of the normal direction, ie: normal rear foot at the front. switch is rolling normal direction with the bad foot at the back


right right and right.

Fakie = riding backwards in your normal stance.

Switch = riding forward in the opposite stance.

There is a difference.

[NickS]

Originally posted by brock
I've never said catwalk in my life but I am gong to start now just to annoy you. I'll stop when you stop saying this




;) :D



EDIT: hey you edited your post dammit! :D

Haha im glad after reading your post the switch fakie thing made sense but i come from a skiing backround and there its all backwards.

[Loopie]

why are you guys refernecing "catwalk" to "nOOb"? I've heard the term catwalk since the early '70's...though not recently, that's for sure:)

[woodlotrider]

I don't see the problem with catwalk. I use it reffering to pedaling some distance with the front wheel up, as opposed to wheelie, which would be to get the front wheel up for only a couple of peadal strokes.

[hampstead bandit]

b*llocks to wheelies and manuals


its all about NO-FOOTED MANUAL ROLLS


give 'em a try, down a hill at 30mph


if you don't fill your trousers, you'll be addicted :cool:



the other one i'm lovin, doing one-footed manuals and turning the bike over 45 degrees so you're almost rolling on the back tire's sidewall


its all good:thepimp:

[corey@nsmb.com]

Originally posted by NickS
Manual- keeping front wheel up w/o pedaling

Wheelie- Pedaling standing or seated to keep the front wheel up.

Catwalk -noob way of saying either of above. Please people let it die never use it again.


The term "catwalk" was being used to describe wheelies long before you groms were even born.

Wheelie and manual is the n00b way to say catwalk, that son, is a fact. :)

[ride24/7]

Yup I'm 38 y/o and we "catwalked" or "wheelied" our bikes when we were kids... both pedal and motor bikes. A "manual" was what you read when you needed to fix something.

[grashopa]

Originally posted by *GiMpY_jR*
and your front wheel is in the air but if your back one is in the air its a nose wheelie or nose manual!

Nose wheelies, my favourite.. Nothing like pedalling with your rear wheel in the air. :D

[Neo]

manuals rock. catwalks are for banana seats.

[pete]

the real question is whose ever seen a cat do a catwalk?

[.Robinson]

^^^^ i wish ....thad be cool!

[Kyle the Hun]

Originally posted by brock
I hate the switch/fakie thing. Most skaters don't even use it right. You have to actually "switch" your stance to call it switch. Not just ride backward.

When I lived in Utah and snowboarded just about every day, I'd set my board up switch and go cruise on hardpack days just to mix it up. It is a much different deal that riding backward.

I don't expect anyone to really care what I think but I figured I'd get that off my chest anyway.

AHA but what if I have my snowboard set up with the bindings at 0* and 0*...so my feet are pointed the exact same both ways. Is it switch or fakie then? Or is it both?

[skimtb1]

who wheelies standing up? it is insanely tiring and it looks like you're humping your stem:P

[brock]

Originally posted by Kyle the Hun
AHA but what if I have my snowboard set up with the bindings at 0* and 0*...so my feet are pointed the exact same both ways. Is it switch or fakie then? Or is it both?


Is the stance centered in the board too?


I would say that you are just riding a retarded setup.

Lemme guess. Baseless bindings too? ;)

[axisofevelknievel]

Originally posted by Kyle the Hun
AHA but what if I have my snowboard set up with the bindings at 0* and 0*...so my feet are pointed the exact same both ways. Is it switch or fakie then? Or is it both?

Not only would the stance have to be centered, but the board would also have to be a true twin tip. Remember - riding switch is supposed to be the equivalent of going from regular to goofy, not just riding backwards.

[Kyle the Hun]

Originally posted by brock
Is the stance centered in the board too?


I would say that you are just riding a retarded setup.

Lemme guess. Baseless bindings too? ;)

:(
Well I rode switch (or should I say backwards) for pretty much half of the time last season so 0* and 0* was pretty superb for me... now my setup is being made fun of, it is sad.

[brock]

I actually thought you were joking but if 0-0 works for you, go for it.

I am pretty sure that you know what I was getting at and know the difference.

[rcoope]

It's useful to start from the question, "what looks cool whe you have the front wheel in the air?" Well, standing up and coasting is very cool. Sitting down and pedalling for an extendend distance is sort of cool. Sitting down and coasting downhill with the front wheel in the air is really cool, especially if you do it for many blocks. Standing up and pedalling is definitely uncool unless you are a little kid on a BMX. So on that basis, it makes sense to have "manual" mean coasting standing up, and wheelie to refer to coasting and pedalling sitting down and otherwise to try to discourage adults from doing standing, pedalling whellies because it looks highly uncool. Also, if you don't do these things, be aware that manauls and pedalling or coasting wheelies are very different skills dynamically, so that nomenclature makes sense. the term cat-walk is silly and therefore should be abandoned. Remember, wheelies and manuals are about showing off that you have style without apparent effort. Uncoolness must hence be avoided. Otherwise you might as well tape a sign to your shirt saying, "I'm a nerd of the greatest order"

[andytheaussie]

Another definition...

Wheelie: can do it in my sleep
Manual: can do it in my dreams

I WILL learn...

[Neo]

Originally posted by rcoope
It's useful to start from the question, "what looks cool whe you have the front wheel in the air?" Well, standing up and coasting is very cool. Sitting down and pedalling for an extendend distance is sort of cool. Sitting down and coasting downhill with the front wheel in the air is really cool, especially if you do it for many blocks. Standing up and pedalling is definitely uncool unless you are a little kid on a BMX. So on that basis, it makes sense to have "manual" mean coasting standing up, and wheelie to refer to coasting and pedalling sitting down and otherwise to try to discourage adults from doing standing, pedalling whellies because it looks highly uncool. Also, if you don't do these things, be aware that manauls and pedalling or coasting wheelies are very different skills dynamically, so that nomenclature makes sense. the term cat-walk is silly and therefore should be abandoned. Remember, wheelies and manuals are about showing off that you have style without apparent effort. Uncoolness must hence be avoided. Otherwise you might as well tape a sign to your shirt saying, "I'm a nerd of the greatest order"

w3rd!

[axisofevelknievel]

Originally posted by Kyle the Hun

Well I rode switch (or should I say backwards) for pretty much half of the time last season so 0* and 0* was pretty superb for me... now my setup is being made fun of, it is sad.

0 & 0 is made fun of for a reason - not only does it look weird, most people's feet don't want to be in that position for any length of time. If you want to have a symetrical foot position, try 10 & -10 or something and do your knees and hips a favour.

Try this test. Stand on something 2-3' off the ground. Jump. What position are your feet in when you land? For most people, their toes are further apart than their heels, which is why 0 & 0 is a bad set up.

Now back to biking...

[Neo]

if you can speed manual to a stop and pedal kick/lurch without dropping the front end, you have it mastered. :)

[taprider]

the difference between catwalk and wheelie is duration
a catwalk is a sustained wheelie
I've been around even longer than Loopie and Corey and catwalk has always been cooler than wheelie, no matter what the Language Nazi Robin says

[Derp]

Whats dead sailor mean?????

I only hear it now and then and can never put together what it is, if its airing with no style or ditching the bike in the air or what...

[Neo]

i am master of dead sailors. it means no style in the air and looking like your dead before you even hit the ground. hell i can do a dead sailor to manual landing :P

[Duncan]

I think "catwalk" is an old-fashioned "wheelie", from before the days of BMX or MTBs. The only times I've heard "catwalk" used is with road bikes. Saying you can "catwalk" a roadbike sounds much better than "wheeling" one. D.

[Bukkake]

I was wondering what to call it when you are sitting on the seat rolling down a hill with your front wheel in the air and your feet off the pedals

Is it a no-footed-manual because you are not pedaling?

A no-footed-wheelie because you are sitting?

Or a no-footed-sitting-manual?


And my final question is wether this falls in the cool or uncool category?