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Bryce
06-23-2004, 07:43 PM
I got this today:

all On June 21st 2004 due to conditions that were beyond my control, I was forced to leave IDUN. I have developed IDUN from the very beginning and am very bummed for it all to be coming to and end. I am not sure of the future for IDUN with me gone? I am sad to be loosing contact with all the team and all the great people who I have gotten to know because of my involvement with IDUN.

I will stay in the bike industry and contact you all when my placement is assured. One thing for certain, wherever I end up I will take my belief and the “ideal” of idun with me and try to apply it to every thing I do.

What is the “ideal” of IDUN?

Dedication to the soul of riding a bike. We know where bikes have been and where they are going, and we don’t care because we ride for the fun of it. BMX, BSX, MTB... it doesn’t matter, it’s about riding forever it’s about riding in cities and towns all over the world. Riding is a lifestyle! We put all we have into what we make so you feel good on or off two wheels.

Sincerely,
Roy Williams

Anyone know what happened there?




.243racer
06-23-2004, 07:47 PM
idun = www.idun.tv

mtb clothing company

LOBOTIDULATOR
06-23-2004, 07:50 PM
:eek: not roy! hes got a good handshake! this upsets me

levon
06-23-2004, 07:57 PM
Bryce
guy who invented idun is being forced to leave the company thats all i got from it but he will be moving on to a new company ..

shayne
06-23-2004, 10:14 PM
so whos in charge now?

Action Hero
06-23-2004, 10:17 PM
Oh boy, well I guess this cat is out of the bag.

Don, the owner of IDUN and UNITED clothing was forced to let all of the people who worked at IDUN go - this was because UNITED (skate apperal company) was going bankrupt. Unfortunatly for everyone this ment IDUN was going to suffer too, and after supporting UNITED clothing for a year losses became too much.

Now Don is trying to salvage whats left of the company and sell it to an over seas buyer, this is going to the end or a new beginning for IDUN.

How ever it ends - it still really sucks that all of the good people at IDUN lost thier jobs....

Haggard
06-23-2004, 11:13 PM
Originally posted by shayne
so whos in charge now?

Dylan :lol:

inshane
06-23-2004, 11:41 PM
:(

Oysterboyz
06-23-2004, 11:54 PM
Ah shoot...I knew about this too, only because I went to Roy for a job...but then this happened. Yeah, unemployed again!

Edit: I never really got a chance to work there because this kinda happened right after Roy was like, "Um, things are a little messed, but don't worry."

MiKeY
06-24-2004, 12:09 AM
:(

Trini-dad72
06-24-2004, 12:14 AM
I worked at IDUN for a while as some of you know. Roy is a super guy, and he really did all he could to keep IDUN alive. I started back at .243 just as this was all coming down the pipe, an d I must say that it sucks for this to happen. If the overseas buyer does take IDUN it is possible that the brand will stay put, and eventually everything will settle down. If it's a different buyer then we'll all have to wait and see. There are going to be rumors abound concerning this whole thing. Please keep your wits about you, and try to have some common sense about what you might read in the coming days.

Smoke
06-24-2004, 12:50 AM
..and will IDUN still be cool without Roy at the helm?

Did you ever wonder why something becomes cool in the first place?

It takes a lot of heart, determination, and courage to create something outta nothing and lay it on the line for the world to judge.

Roy made cool gear, because he's genuine.

Lookin' forward to the next one bro. It's been a good ride.

norco125
06-24-2004, 12:53 AM
I got an email from chris donahue saying hes the new Team guy

Chump
06-24-2004, 01:17 AM
Roy and Maija made Idun what it is, I don't know if its going to be the same with them gone.

Steve

dirty deeds
06-24-2004, 10:28 AM
Roy donated all the proceeds from Monkey Style 2 premiere last year ($500) to NSMBA when he could have easily just pocketed it for himself.

Good guy.

Cream always rises to the top.

counterpoint
06-24-2004, 02:04 PM
Goes to show how f*&%ing tough it is to run a clothing company in this industry. They had United beind them and still it ran dry. I don't know how Sombrio is doing it.

Do clothing companies not fare well because mountain bikers are happy to wear MEC style clothing and not seem to care about looking like a "mountain biker?" Skate and snowboard clothing companies seem to do all right. Is it because skaters and snowboarders wouldn't be caught dead in MEC style clothes and they stay true to their own industry companies?

Action Hero
06-24-2004, 02:55 PM
Originally posted by counterpoint
Goes to show how f*&%ing tough it is to run a clothing company in this industry. They had United beind them and still it ran dry. I don't know how Sombrio is doing it.

Do clothing companies not fare well because mountain bikers are happy to wear MEC style clothing and not seem to care about looking like a "mountain biker?" Skate and snowboard clothing companies seem to do all right. Is it because skaters and snowboarders wouldn't be caught dead in MEC style clothes and they stay true to their own industry companies?

J Lev - I think you missed my post. IDUN was doing very well, it was UNITED that wasn't selling. IDUN could no longer support UNITED.

counterpoint
06-24-2004, 03:38 PM
e-holms, I really can't see that. United has been around for years and years. How could a tiny and new mtb clothing company support an established snowboard company?

Rat
06-24-2004, 03:45 PM
Originally posted by counterpoint


Do clothing companies not fare well because mountain bikers are happy to wear MEC style clothing and not seem to care about looking like a "mountain biker?" Skate and snowboard clothing companies seem to do all right. Is it because skaters and snowboarders wouldn't be caught dead in MEC style clothes and they stay true to their own industry companies?

So I should pay double for the same quality shit as MEC so I can sport an Idun hoodie to be cool. personaly I think its a good thing that we dont get sucked into the consumerism of whats "cool".


Its Sad about Idun because as a small buisness owner I can only feel for someone who has put their hart and soul on the line and failed. that said I wouldnt pay more to have thier label on my shirt

counterpoint
06-24-2004, 03:50 PM
Rat - i'm just asking the question. It is definately true that the more "styley" and "hard core" clothing is much more expensive. Personally, I would try and make more of an effort to buy industry supported rags but not at a huge markup. (although the reason they are so expensive is due to them making and selling so little amounts)

Ipecac
06-24-2004, 04:24 PM
Ugh. I really liked their stuff. So did my son. Functional, understated, un-flashy.

Crazy Canuck
06-24-2004, 05:17 PM
Originally posted by counterpoint
e-holms, I really can't see that. United has been around for years and years. How could a tiny and new mtb clothing company support an established snowboard company?

its true

Idun was doing surprisingly well for being so small and young, United had hard times and is done.

I hope someone steps up to buy Idun, its too good too let go.

Rat
06-24-2004, 05:31 PM
Originally posted by Crazy Canuck
its true

Idun was doing surprisingly well for being so small and young, United had hard times and is done.

I hope someone steps up to buy Idun, its too good too let go.

If it was truley profitible than someone will buy it. if there are no buyers than some of the core riders should buy the lablel and pay out the seller from profits.

counterpoint
06-24-2004, 06:29 PM
Originally posted by Rat
If it was truley profitible than someone will buy it. if there are no buyers than some of the core riders should buy the lablel and pay out the seller from profits.

Exactly! There should be a deal there somewhere. I was thinking of the same thing with another defunct clothing company but I have too much on my plate right now.

Faithless
06-24-2004, 06:54 PM
they should try to market to us vendors... (pacsun cough)

but as it seems the big vendors dont usually like to carry the little guys.

Bryce
06-24-2004, 07:13 PM
Originally posted by Crazy Canuck
Idun was doing surprisingly well for being so small and young, United had hard times and is done.

I'm not surprised - you don't see United stuff anywhere on the snow anymore. And I've heard NFA isn't doing too well either.

Trini-dad72
06-25-2004, 12:06 AM
Argh, IDUN stuff wasn't too expensive, when you consider that everything, except the pants, was made locally using local suppliers and stuff. I love supporting local companies, I make it a mission to try and have an article of clothing from most all of them, just to show my support. United had some neat stuff too, heck I wanted one of the Winter Jackets to boot, but I guess thats what happens in the Industry.
Maja and Roy, we miss you...
But I'm sure that you'll be back somewhere down the line.

Craz
06-25-2004, 03:36 AM
Sure, I'm all down for supporting the small local, upstart companies. But I can buy a made-in-canada shirt for 5$ at Hemp Town so why should I shell out THIRTY to be cool because it has IDun on it? For those of you saying thirty is a deal for a t-shirt you need to be shaking your heads.
Sure, I'm all up for supporting the little guys but I don't have enough money to drop 90$ on a pair of shorts to go with my 30$ TShirt. If I get one for Xmas or my Birthday thats cool, but don't expect to see me dropping my hard earned dough on looking cool.

Tha Niggla
06-25-2004, 10:51 AM
don't believe the hype.

stay tuned for an IDUN update.:D

Crazy Canuck
06-25-2004, 11:10 AM
Originally posted by Tha Niggla
don't believe the hype.

stay tuned for an IDUN update.:D

Basically, IDUN has been doing well, but not well enough to keep the staff we have grown to know and love. For the time being, IDUN will be a one man show, with those nearby who also see the vision will be there to help out as best we can.

This is a re-structure, we have a "what have you done for me lately?" list, those who are on it will see good things..........those who are not, will be sad they did not help us as we have helped them.................in short, get your LBS carrying the brand, or it may disappear. "Without the "sails"", "the boat don't go no where!"

This is not the end if IDUN.

Idun riders, hang tight, and Believe!!

danny
06-25-2004, 01:44 PM
Has anyone looked at the "Team" page on the IDUN website.

It's great that IDUN trys to give back to the community, but that's a whole lot shirts that need to be sold to support a team of that size.

I'm not interested in paying $30 to have a "cool" t-shirt. My riding clothes consist of free tshirts and a pair of dickies pants. I have no desire to pay more for that added "cool" image.

Rat
06-25-2004, 01:52 PM
what exactly do they give to the grassroots team besides a discount on thier shit.

corey@nsmb.com
06-25-2004, 02:07 PM
Originally posted by counterpoint
Goes to show how f*&%ing tough it is to run a clothing company in this industry. They had United beind them and still it ran dry. I don't know how Sombrio is doing it.

Do clothing companies not fare well because mountain bikers are happy to wear MEC style clothing and not seem to care about looking like a "mountain biker?" Skate and snowboard clothing companies seem to do all right. Is it because skaters and snowboarders wouldn't be caught dead in MEC style clothes and they stay true to their own industry companies?


Didn't we both get involved in an e-debate a few weeks back, about some pics from Sea Otter and clothing that riders wear?

Correct me if I am wrong, but I was commenting on how it was odd that riders find it "cool" to wear budget, non-bike looking clothes, and the debate boiled away about how it was going back to the roots of mtb, etc.

As long as people are bent on looking like they just climbed out of a dumpster when they ride, good-vibe cool bike clothing co.'s like IDUN are going to continue to suffer and fall victim to economics.

It's a shame. These guys inject their passion and resources into the sport, but so many of those in the sport who want it to grow won't support the growth by buying into the market itself. Instead for some reason it's considered more "cool" to go to a DH race in your jeans and an old Sears shop shirt, and the guys who actually go out and kit up in nice Sombrio, IDUN, Fox etc gear get called posers.

Sometimes the bike biz is a victim of the consumer. :(

All the best to the IDUN team, I hope they can find new life from this situation and continue to bring us (those that like to wear bike gear on our bikes) great looking and performing clothing and gear. :beer:

Craz
06-25-2004, 02:23 PM
Originally posted by corey@nsmb.com

As long as people are bent on looking like they just climbed out of a dumpster when they ride, good-vibe cool bike clothing co.'s like IDUN are going to continue to suffer and fall victim to economics.

So what your saying is that if I don't wear overpriced clothing I look like I climbed out of a dumpster? Thanks bro.
I think that the "You look like shit because your shirt cost 10$ and mine cost 30$ so I'm better than you" attitude is better left in High School.
I guess some people just don't grow up.

corey@nsmb.com
06-25-2004, 02:27 PM
A random sample of comments in a bike-fashion related post about Sea Otter in the Photos and Vids forum.

While it isn't the direct reason why IDUN has issues, it does reflect some of the attitudes that are partly responsible for strangling bike clothing co.'s....


"Style - i was stoked to see guys like gareth, vories, and bearclaw and others rocking the jeans and skate helmets in a gnarly fast fourcross. "

"yeah man it's a good look. mixing luxury with the trashcan is the essence of style. that man has style "

"see that guy crashing on the dual course?? its because he is kitted out in all the latest FOX gear, where the price is jacked because of the name, his oakley pants and all of that other BRAND NAME shit he is wearing. If he had some IKEDA jeans on with a nice button up shirt, he'd be railing that CORNER!"

"i agree.....farmer john shirt+brown cords= pimpfactor......
way cooler than race jerseys IMO."

"has anyone thought that maybe the guy just wore those clothes because those are the clothes he wore?"

"i'm getting tired of 100$ jerseys, might as well by like 3 or 4 or more shirts??? its getting silly,

P.S. the guy in the plaid, u can pick up a shirt liek that for 5$ at the village..."

Craz
06-25-2004, 02:33 PM
Sure, there are SOME people who go for the I just climbed out of a trash can, I've been known to look like that myself from time to time. But in your previous post it sounded like if you're not blinged out in 30$ tshirts and $100 pants then you look like you spend your spare time asking for change.
I'd feel that there is something between $100 jerseys and and looking like you robbed a hobo for his clothes.

Looking dirty is in style right now, and personally, I'd much rather pay 5$ for a shirt than 100$ to ride in a jersey.

corey@nsmb.com
06-25-2004, 02:47 PM
Originally posted by Lunatik
So what your saying is that if I don't wear overpriced clothing I look like I climbed out of a dumpster? Thanks bro.



No...you did.

You can make it look like I said all kinds of nasty things to you if that is what turns your crank.

I simply stated my opinion, and of course do not expect all of you to agree with it. :)

corey@nsmb.com
06-25-2004, 02:49 PM
Originally posted by Lunatik
But in your previous post it sounded like if you're not blinged out in 30$ tshirts and $100 pants then you look like you spend your spare time asking for change.
I'd feel that there is something between $100 jerseys and and looking like you robbed a hobo for his clothes.


You can interpret my post any way you like...In this interpretation it looks like the framework for an argument.

I didn't share my opinion to argue, I just shared my opinion to contribute to the thread...which is about dying clothing companies.

Craz
06-25-2004, 02:50 PM
At any rate, don't expect to see me shelling out $30 dollars for a tshirt that is no better than one I would pick up for $10.

Craz
06-25-2004, 02:53 PM
Sorry bro, not really looking to start an arguement and when I re-read your post from a different point of view I guess I was kinda off base. But I still don't see why I should throw down a chunk of my wallet to look "cool."

Rat
06-25-2004, 03:04 PM
I dont know how you kids ride in t-shirts, if I was wearing a cotton shirt while riding it would be a nasty sweat soaked piece in about 20 minutes.

NV73
06-25-2004, 03:10 PM
Originally posted by counterpoint
Goes to show how f*&%ing tough it is to run a clothing company in this industry. They had United beind them and still it ran dry. I don't know how Sombrio is doing it.

Sombrio ain't doing it either, whatever 'it' means. Quite the gong-show in fact. A particular Sombrio share holder emptied the bank account and got the hell outta dodge.

Lets hope that the product prevails and those left in the dark get their dues.

Craz
06-25-2004, 03:49 PM
Originally posted by Rat
I dont know how you kids ride in t-shirts, if I was wearing a cotton shirt while riding it would be a nasty sweat soaked piece in about 20 minutes.
I generally ride in a Cotton/Poly blend or Rayon Collared shirt. 3$ at value village and when I fall I don't worry about ripping it.

Of course to fall one would have to actually ride.....

Craz
06-25-2004, 03:50 PM
Originally posted by NV73
. A particular Sombrio share holder emptied the bank account and got the hell outta dodge.

Mr. Watson?

Zaskar
06-25-2004, 04:09 PM
you're not supporting the industry if i don't buy idun gear? i own two idun shirts but i dont look at people like haters for not wearing idun or sombrio. biking isn't snowboarding, skateboarding, or bmx. there is no huge market comparable to snowboarding etc. i dont think people should be EXPECTED to shell out cash just because not as many people bike and companies can't sort out their business efforts.

you make it sound like it's the consumers fault a company went bust. it is the COMPANIES for not marketing themselves right. if their shirts were 15$ how many more would they have sold? would they have made more money? what if they focused more on this aspect of riding than that? maybe they should have used this design instead of that?

it's not the consumers fault because they aren't lining up with cash in hand to "support the biz". it's the companies fault for not providing more reasons and rational for lining up. don't turn the average biker in to a bad guy for wanting to wear dickies and a scrub t shirt because his bike already cost him enough bling.

Craz
06-25-2004, 04:20 PM
I'm planning on creating my own clothing line. If you guys don't pay $50 for one of my tshirts then you're not as cool as the people who are because they care about the local riding scene and obviously you don't.

corey@nsmb.com
06-25-2004, 04:31 PM
You guys are making a prime example about how hard it is to have a decent discussion with 17 year olds.

You are taking logical points and running away with them, building up these dramatic posts that are just wasting your time.

Just to make it easy for you guys, since you seem to know everything, including what I was trying to offer, is "OK" YOU WIN.


There, you sure showed me. Pheww, eh?


Zaskar says "don't turn the average biker in to a bad guy for wanting to wear dickies and a scrub t shirt because his bike already cost him enough bling."

Where on earth did you get that from? *shakes head*

Rat
06-25-2004, 04:39 PM
Originally posted by corey@nsmb.com



Zaskar says "don't turn the average biker in to a bad guy for wanting to wear dickies and a scrub t shirt because his bike already cost him enough bling."


this is comming from a guy who showed up to shovel shit it in a pair of hundred dollar jeans.

Craz
06-25-2004, 04:39 PM
17?

At any rate all I'm saying is that its no WONDER IDUN is going under. Jaru72 saying that the IDUN stuff "affordable" is laughable.

"good-vibe cool bike clothing co.'s like IDUN" be damned. I buy my clothes to keep me warm and to not make other guys feel jealous. Not to make a political statement.

Craz
06-25-2004, 04:46 PM
All I'm trying to say is that when someone expects me to shell out WAYYYYYYYYYYY too much for clothing because it's cool/trendy/hardcore/back to the roots/supporting the little guy/whatever it makes me wonder what kind of a world we're living in.

Spend 10$ on a shirt. Donate 20$ to a charity. That will give you a feeling no overpriced, but "locally made" shirt will give you.
And you get a T-shirt too.

I like to think that Riders are, in general, not as sucked into the image thing as Skaters/Boarders/Surfers are. I guess I'm wrong.

Rat
06-25-2004, 04:53 PM
Hey I agree with you but you and Zaskar come off so preachy that its a bit over the top

Craz
06-25-2004, 04:54 PM
PS: If you want to fit in with all the "cool kids" and wear a "trendy, made in Vancouver, roots van" take a look at Cyber C's
www.cyberetrothreads.com. HIGH quality (stiched, not printed logos) I got one for my X-mas and its the pimpness.
www.cyberetrothreads.com
:eek: $50 for a hoodie
:eek: $45 for a Zip Hoodie
:eek: $20 for a Tshirt.
Now thats more like it.
[/shameless plug]

Zaskar
06-25-2004, 04:54 PM
Originally posted by Rat
this is comming from a guy who showed up to shovel shit it in a pair of hundred dollar jeans.

corey :???: i wasn't replying to you specifically at all. i just got an overall vibe like WHY THE HELL AREN'T WE ALL BUYING IDUN AND SUPPORTING THE BIZ out of this thread (and others). i'm not really sure what you're getting at.

and rat, wrong. those jeans cost me about 45$. and any smell left from digging washed out with no problem? i'm confused what you're trying to get at. i have one pair of riding pants, roach pants that have lasted me about 2 years, and thats the only time i've spent within the 100$ range on pants. and they show no signs of dieing on me, a very affordable choice in the long run.

Craz
06-25-2004, 04:59 PM
Originally posted by Rat
Hey I agree with you but you and Zaskar come off so preachy that its a bit over the top
Thanks for the support bro :)


Yeah, we get kinda over the top (we both love stirring the shit up and get kinda carried away.)
BTW you looking for a cult to join? I have one going. Beach party on the Equinox. BYOBeef, koolaid provided.

corey@nsmb.com
06-25-2004, 04:59 PM
Originally posted by Zaskar
you're not supporting the industry if i don't buy idun gear? i own two idun shirts but i dont look at people like haters for not wearing idun or sombrio. biking isn't snowboarding, skateboarding, or bmx. there is no huge market comparable to snowboarding etc. i dont think people should be EXPECTED to shell out cash just because not as many people bike and companies can't sort out their business efforts.

you make it sound like it's the consumers fault a company went bust. it is the COMPANIES for not marketing themselves right. if their shirts were 15$ how many more would they have sold? would they have made more money? what if they focused more on this aspect of riding than that? maybe they should have used this design instead of that?

it's not the consumers fault because they aren't lining up with cash in hand to "support the biz". it's the companies fault for not providing more reasons and rational for lining up. don't turn the average biker in to a bad guy for wanting to wear dickies and a scrub t shirt because his bike already cost him enough bling.


It is so ironic you are preaching the anti-name brand....yet your example of more appropriate clothing for a rider on tight funds is "Dickies"... you yourself are a victim to the evil marketing machine you are trying to take a stance against.

...you will lose every single argument you put together about riders being poor, or broke. Anyone who can afford to ride a $2K bike, or a $6K bike like yourself doesn't have the slightest clue of what tight funds even means.

corey@nsmb.com
06-25-2004, 05:08 PM
Point made. Comment deleted, it wasn't my intention. :)

Craz
06-25-2004, 05:11 PM
Originally posted by corey@nsmb.com

It is so ironic you are preaching the anti-name brand....yet your example of more appropriate clothing for a rider on tight funds is "Dickies"... you yourself are a victim to the evil marketing machine you are trying to take a stance against.

HARDLY preaching the Anti-name-brand. If you think that then you're OCMPLETELY missing the point. We're preaching the "Anti-I-like-to-get-raped-paying-for-overpriced-stuff"
Dickes are like $30. And they last. Really, really well. Find me something that stacks up in a similar price range.
Sure, some of us drop a lot of money on a bike. But the difference between a top line bike and costco bike is a LOT bigger than a name-brand shirt and a no-name t-shirt.

Zaskar
06-25-2004, 05:39 PM
Originally posted by corey@nsmb.com
With such sound economic and business knowledge, I am suprised your little web-based retail shop didn't last longer than 3 months. What ever happened to that gig anyway?

It is so ironic you are preaching the anti-name brand....yet your example of more appropriate clothing for a rider on tight funds is "Dickies"... you yourself are a victim to the evil marketing machine you are trying to take a stance against.

For the record...you will lose every single argument you put together about riders being poor, or broke. Anyone who can afford to ride a $2K bike, or a $6K bike like yourself doesn't have the slightest clue of what tight funds even means.

uhhh...corey. i did the website? hahaha thats about all i did besides trying to stay on the sidelines. it wasnt exactly like i dumped any money in to it.

im not preaching the anti-name brand. i started out with saying i owned two idun shirts.dickies are affordable durable comfortable pants. most people will agree with that. i wasn't taking a stance against any evil marketing machine, in fact i consider idun pretty homebrew and i dig the fact they support so many riders. i said consumers shouldnt be expected to feel guilty for not supoprting the biking business by buying idun, it should be iduns obligation to provide reasons to the consumer why they SHOULD be lining up. if there aren't lining up to buy it i'd say theres something wrong with iduns marketing or product...not with the consumer. cause from alot of what people have said on here (at least how it took it) was that people should be motivated to buy within the industry. just iduns job should be to provide that motivation, and if theres money troubles apparently it's not there. and we (the consumer) shouldnt feel guilty.

Craz
06-25-2004, 05:42 PM
Originally posted by Zaskar
uhhh...corey. i did the website? hahaha thats about all i did besides trying to stay on the sidelines. it wasnt exactly like i dumped any money in to it.

im not preaching the anti-name brand. i started out with saying i owned two idun shirts.dickies are affordable durable comfortable pants. most people will agree with that. i wasn't taking a stance against any evil marketing machine, in fact i consider idun pretty homebrew and i dig the fact they support so many riders. i said consumers shouldnt be expected to feel guilty for not supoprting the biking business by buying idun, it should be iduns obligation to provide reasons to the consumer why they SHOULD be lining up. if there aren't lining up to buy it i'd say theres something wrong with iduns marketing or product...not with the consumer. cause from alot of what people have said on here (at least how it took it) was that people should be motivated to buy within the industry. just iduns job should be to provide that motivation, and if theres money troubles apparently it's not there. and we (the consumer) shouldnt feel guilty.

:werd:

Zaskar
06-25-2004, 05:45 PM
corey no worries man :) i usually find a way to make things affordable to myself. for my shirts i shared the cost with my parents. for my bike it worked out to not that much. and for assorted riding stuff sometimes it makes sense to spend more and save more in the long run.

rat, im not sure if you were talking to me or corey (someone siad they thought it was corey?) if so, my bad man :thepimp:

Craz
06-25-2004, 05:48 PM
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Zaskar
06-25-2004, 06:00 PM
hahaha i dunno....im seriously not happy to hear idun is out of business. its not something anyone really wants to hear.

Craz
06-25-2004, 06:23 PM
I agree it's a bummer the IDUN got dragged down by some other company. Thats just shitty news.

*GiMpY_jR*
06-25-2004, 07:28 PM
Originally posted by Action Hero
J Lev - I think you missed my post. IDUN was doing very well, it was UNITED that wasn't selling. IDUN could no longer support UNITED.

isnt united a snowboard company...?

*GiMpY_jR*
06-25-2004, 07:30 PM
Originally posted by Bryce
I'm not surprised - you don't see United stuff anywhere on the snow anymore. And I've heard NFA isn't doing too well either.

I rock united shiznit! It is soo nice I :heart: It all

Mr Ripper
06-25-2004, 07:41 PM
too many victims of mass media to even reply

Rat
06-25-2004, 08:48 PM
Relax cam im just poking fun at you. you guys need to get out for a ride.

Zaskar
06-25-2004, 10:40 PM
Originally posted by Rat
Relax cam im just poking fun at you. you guys need to get out for a ride.

i just came back from one ;)

its the internet. everything sounds so :announce: serious
:announce:

so no worries dude, i wasnt too stressed at all haha

LOBOTIDULATOR
06-26-2004, 12:37 AM
i get most of my clothes from value village. 1) i do like having clothes other people dont have, but i dont try and look dirty 2)who cares how much something costs. if you feel good wearing it, more power too you. people who call you a poser are stupid. 3) after spending every pay check i have going toward biking, its nice to get a few "new" shirts for cheap.

to recap. cheap good, expensive good. wear what you like folks

Craz
06-26-2004, 12:44 AM
Originally posted by LOBOTIDULATOR
2)who cares how much something costs.
Me and my wallet?

Trini-dad72
06-26-2004, 12:56 AM
You guys are really driving me nuts...

I wear clothes from the following: IDUN, Oakley, Banana Republic, The Gap, Old Navy, Zellers, WalMart, Nike, Roach, MEC, ModRobes... Etc. etc.

I buy what WORKS. If it's got a name brand so be it. All of my clothes have been bought on sale or with staff discounts. All of the clothes I buy, I purchase with the intent of using them till they die. I do not buy my clothes to look glam, or like a fricken Yaletown fashion slut... I buy clothes to kill them, use them, go out in them blah blah blah... I shop smartly, sales are my friends.

As Bill would say: OOP ACK THHHBBTTTTTTT!

Craz
06-26-2004, 01:21 AM
Originally posted by jaru72

I buy what WORKS. If it's got a name brand so be it. All of my clothes have been bought on sale or with staff discounts. All of the clothes I buy, I purchase with the intent of using them till they die. I do not buy my clothes to look glam, or like a fricken Yaletown fashion slut... I buy clothes to kill them, use them, go out in them blah blah blah... I shop smartly, sales are my friends.

:werd:

Sales are rad.

I wouldn't pick up an IDUN shirt for $30 though.