What dO i need to know disc brakes

[overcranked]

I am buying Disc's (MECH) for my DS2 2002 (warp)
I know that my mounting holes are 52MM
I know that I need new HUBs I am planning on getting whole new wheel sets

What do I need to know about bolt patterens I want make sure that the rotors will bolt to the hubs any other advice sould be nice.

I plan on buyin my parts from price point
if you have any other web sites with better prices let me know

Thanks

[Craz]

And you're planning on taking the ADVANCED park tools classes? Think about starting off at beginner.

The rotor bolt pattern is standard expect for the shimano saint central locking system which isn't what you're considering anyways. You'll also need to buy adaptors (depending on which brakes you buy) for the frame/fork-caliper connection.

[Zaskar]

yeah disc brakes have pretty much standardized. rotor sizes can switch around and adaptors are sometimes different but the rotor bolt pattern is pretty much the same. when doing up the rotor just use a torq wrench and put the rotor on making sure to move the rotor up against the edge of the bolt or whatever so it wont be slippen out (theres some play in the bolt holes) and do the bolts up in a star pattern. that's how i was told and have always done it anyways.

when rockin the hydros (if you plan to bump up, some people do) its pretty straight forward as well. same deal with the rotor and they're self adjusting. just loosen the bolts in to the adaptor. have a playing card on either side of the rotor. squeeze the brakes (so it centers on to the rotor) then do the bolts in to the adaptor back up.

besides that all you really need to know is bleeding the hydros and adjusting the mechanicals, which you gotta be shown IMO.

i still can't bleed.

..you don't need to take a rocket science course to maintain your bike. but its good to ask questions.

[Chakalaka Rider]

Few major brands you should look into for disc brakes:

-Avid (www.avidbike.com)
-Grimeca (www.grimeca.it/indexe.htm)
-Hayes (www.hayesdiscbrake.com)
-Hope (www.hopetech.com) (no mech)
-Shimano (www.shimano.com)

You should be able to find tech. info on their sites.

My suggestion would be to find an appropriate set of brakes first, then hubs, then rims (if you are getting new hubs, might as well get new rims [make sure they have matching number of holes]).

Eric

[ATN]

For a 2002 DS2 you will need new shifters as well because it came with integrated.

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That's my 02 Warp, in the end I don't think upgrading that bike was worth it. Maybe because the setup was so unbalanced. Peter's half Warp / half 2003 Fluid 3 was a lot better...

http://atn.pfak.org/albums/album09/IMG_3200.sized.jpg (http://atn.pfak.org/gallery/album09/IMG_3200?full=1)

Shimano hyraulic disc brakes are always good brakes, and the Deore's are a great price. The Hayes HFX-9 brake is good too and its only $99 at Jenson USA.

Just a suggestion, maybe buy something like a Norco Sasquatch complete? You want an HT as well, and I found that my Norco HT was better on the trails than the Warp anyways. I just transferred my components over BTW.

[miufahkiu]

I run a pair of Avid mechanical disc brakes (they only have one model), with the 8" rotors on my hardtail and I love them. I'm using them with the Avid speed dial levers and I can get my brakes to feel exactly how I want, without any tools. The setup is really easy to adjust and requires pretty little maintenance. They're almost as strong as hydraulic discs, and provide plenty of stopping power. But then again, the Avid mechs. cost almost as much as some of the hydros, like the ones ATN mentioned above.

If you are getting both front and rear disc brakes, make sure that your frame and fork can accomodate the size of the rotor. Quite a few frames can't run 8" rotors, and I've read about some forks that can't handle 8" rotors.

I'd have to agree with ATN, though. If you're going to be investing that much money into upgrading your bike (new brakes, new wheelset, and new shifters), you're better off buying a complete bike.

[Moocowsia]

I'd go for avids too. I have a pair of 6" on my 8 ball. They replaced my formula team hydros. They feel quite a bit better. Get em if you can.

[eddiebrannan]

lunatik leave kid alone! :lol: every post he makes you flame him! what did he doooooooo???? :lol:

[0_o]

I would just buy a new bike with disk brakes/disk wheels.
By the time you're done it's going to cost you almost as much as your whole bike.

Brakes = $200.
Adapters = $30.
Wheels = $200 min.

Sell the DS2 and get a new bike.
If you've reached the point where your brakes are holding you back it's probably time to consider a more substantial bike.
Personally, I wouldn't waste my time putting disks on that bike unless you're after pose factor.

[Neo]

go with hydros. you can get a decent pair of hydros like the shimano deore's that work awesome and are almost as cheap as mechs but better. personally i hate mech disc brakes because you still get that spongy cable feeling. also, consider getting a new bike like others have suggested.

[overcranked]

I plan on buying a new bike (a hardtail) but I don't plan on getting rid of my first FS. I became a offical member of the over the handle bar club this weekend. God blessed me and let me land on my feet ( i dont know how but) it happened. Reason Sh^tty brakes (v-brakes) I could'nt make a second set of steps bad angle. but I am about 230 and any bike that can take that type of abuse that I put out is a good bike and yeah I drop 4-5 feet on this bike regular. so I am upgrading

[Keefer]

Originally posted by overcranked
I plan on buying a new bike (a hardtail) but I don't plan on getting rid of my first FS. I became a offical member of the over the handle bar club this weekend. God blessed me and let me land on my feet ( i dont know how but) it happened. Reason Sh^tty brakes (v-brakes) I could'nt make a second set of steps bad angle. but I am about 230 and any bike that can take that type of abuse that I put out is a good bike and yeah I drop 4-5 feet on this bike regular. so I am upgrading

How were shitty brakes the problem? Sounds like you were lacking sufficient skills to control your bike and rammed your front brake too hard.

I'm with the whole get a new bike crowd. Sell the DS-2 and spen dthe money on a better hardtail. Something in the $2000 range new, with hydro disks and a nice fork.

[ATN]

Dude, take it from a guy who has owned a 2002 Giant Warp DS2 and a Norco hardtail. The Norco may be an HT, but it's a lot better at riding than the DS-2. The DS-2 is an entry level bike that just happens to have 5 inches of travel. it was not meant for abusive riding. The Norco HT's are pretty burly and will take what you throw at them. A lot more precise, pedals better, better standover, less weight, and less to go wrong.

BTW, the 2002's had a cracking problem at the bottom of the seat yoke. Peter cracked his 02 there and got an 01 from warrenty, Paul @ Giant couldnt believe that mine didnt crack when I rode with him one day.

[miufahkiu]

Originally posted by ATN
A lot... less weight

Is the Giant really that heavy? A Norco Sasquatch is around 40lbs.

Anyway, if you weigh 230lbs, a burlier bike will be able to sustain a thrashing better than the Giant will.

[ATN]

Originally posted by miufahkiu
Is the Giant really that heavy? A Norco Sasquatch is around 40lbs.

Anyway, if you weigh 230lbs, a burlier bike will be able to sustain a thrashing better than the Giant will.

I'm talking frames. I bought my Torrent frame only.