HARO IS GONE

[Del]

The excavators came in today and ripped everything out so far except the DJs (i hope they wont get ripped down but you never know). There is going to be a massive dig day on sunday to rebuild. Check out www.dirtyrobot.net for details.
I for one am sort of glad all the stunts are gone because they were all sketchy, but stuff liek the slalom course wasnt even big enough to really get hurt on, it was really fun and its just completely destroyed.

Just one example: Before:

[Del]

After:

[Voleurz represent]

man that sucks!

[bruiser d]

that really sucks the big one del. why did they rip it down?belive me , i know what that feels like dude:mad:

[Del]

As far as I know right now, they ripped it down not because someone got hurt, not because someone complained, but because they are SCARED that will happen. According to Landon, photo number two, this happens every so many years here...

a bit odd

[FatHack]

Ouch, I only put in a fraction of the work that went into that set, but it feels like someone killed my cat. They will rise again, bigger and better. On a bright note, the dirt will be nice and soft for digging now that they chewed it up and the path will be nice and wide.

[Straw]

Yea, I was just in there, and heard all the diesel motors going and got worried. Some of those stunts were good, but some had nails sticking up, beckoning my tires.

Like Del said, the DirtJump sets are still there. Hopefully they will not get touched.

I'll be up for this Sunday thing.

[tashi]

And to think that I was just talking about how nice it was to do so many refinements to 'Deese jumps after resurecting them about two springs ago. 'cest la vie, I guess. The fact that they didn't do anything to restore/block the trail after plowing the jumps speaks volumes for how much they actually care for the ecology of the area though. Have fun rebuilding, I'll be on it after Sunday!

[Straw]

Yea, they just drove their bobcats right through the bush to get to the stunts. Pretty rediculous.

[Ghetto Smurf]

jarrett called me today, apparently his new set got torn down too...6 foot tall lips... 15 foot gappers... R.I.P. Ill be there for sure on sunday

[Squampton]

Everything is gone, all the stunts and all the jumps, nothing left

[Ghetto Smurf]

talking to my buddy on msn right now, he lives in the housing complex right by haro... said that the bobcats were heading towards the jumps... im scared. they are gonna go down to the jumps and check it out, ill post again in a bit

[Del]

Originally posted by Ghetto Smurf
talking to my buddy on msn right now, he lives in the housing complex right by haro... said that the bobcats were heading towards the jumps... im scared. they are gonna go down to the jumps and check it out, ill post again in a bit
Too late. Gone as Aaron just said. I just went back. I dont fucking get it, like there is even a sign leading into the jumps by Queen Alexandra (whatever that is) saying they do not maintian the woods and you go in at your own risk and everything... :(

[Neo]

hey matt, where is that?

[Del]

The middle set in its best condition ever when we worked on it this year:

[Del]

The middle set 15 min ago:

[Voleurz represent]

they flattened the whole area, and matt is that me by the last jump in your fabulous picature?

[Straw]

Man, that sucks so much! I was just starting to progress on them. And I spent alot of time getting the mud puddles away from the trannies and the lips just this morning.

This is so frusterating!

Do i need my own shovel to help rebuild on Sunday?

[Straw]

Originally posted by Del
Too late. Gone as Aaron just said. I just went back. I dont fucking get it, like there is even a sign leading into the jumps by Queen Alexandra (whatever that is) saying they do not maintian the woods and you go in at your own risk and everything... :(

The Queen Alexandria Hospital is just across Arbutus Road from the woods. It's a children's hospital. I guess they own the property. I think it's for terminally ill children, but i'm not 100% sure.

[243_ht]

I knew that i should have come out earlier. Oh well it seems all jumps are doomed to failure today.

[dirty deeds]

Where is Haro?

I'm guessing Victoria from a lot of your locations.

[Del]

Yes, haro is right by the University of Victoria campus.

[dirty deeds]

You've gotta wonder, hey if there's not some sort of conspiracy going down among the local govenments with all the shit that has been going on lately.

They're so fucking sleezy, too the way they roll in with their bobcats and chain saws without telling anyone and just fucking flatten and hack everything in their path.

Fuck 'em all.... assholes!

[Ghetto Smurf]

i love how they say they took them down because of the natural disturbance, yet they drove fucking bobcats thru the forest to get to the jumps....

EVERYONE BUILD TOMORROW AND SUNDAY..... go in through the back way, so no one from the complex sees people going in. Bring as many shovels, wheel barrows, ect as possible.

thanks, brendan

[balfa rider]

ok so i gots the low down seen as i am haro:D lol for those of you who dont know me im jarrett and i ride a red balfa minuteman. the jumps have been tore down 2 other times. once befor there were tons when they were massive dually jumps. 2nd time was because one of us bikers jumped some stairs almost hit this guys daughter so he went down and killed them. ok on 2 this time. a doctor sent a complaint to queen alexander(sp) saying that it was hurting nature. he took pics and everything. thats why they are gone. there is nothing left ever single thing is gone. but they did nothing 2 stop us from rebuilding so im going to go down 2morrow and sunday 2 rebuild anyone who wants to help would be awsome. what are they thinking we have nothing to ride in vic. you go 2 van there are jumps everwhere. what are us teens going to do now go smoke and vadilize. like could they have used there brain and thought of the good things from it. also nature i dont get it they took a bobcat and ran it through a forest..sorry went on a bit of a rant but i have spent countless hours down there building. if you guys have any questions i can probly answer then so go ahead and ask

also support www.dirtyrobot.net they are a killer site and have done nothing but help the victoria seen

[Del]

Well it sure looks better than before, holy, look at it then!

[Del]

And now, good god, completely groomed and restored!!!

[balfa rider]

well im going 2 go down there 2morrow at 11 everyone come out and help build. ahah id love to see that assholes face when he sees all the jumps rebuilt. if enough ppl comes out we could probly get at least one set going again. anyone going to come help or is it going to be a one man show like it normaly is

[Del]

Ill be there. You know i will. Soccer at 1:30, but ill go from 11 till then.

[Islandrider]

We got fucking owned :( :cuffs: Me and the dangerboy ower Shant were gonna ride there sunday. RIP jumpers.

[Straw]

I'll be there...I'll try and bring a shovel too.

I ride a red MM too but am not Jarrett.

[hags]

ill probably come dig for a bit if im not workin

[Squampton]

Jarrett can you bring me a shovel down or can someone else caues all the ones we bought at the start of the year are gone. I'll come down for a bit tomorrow before ultimate, but i'll be up for a long day on sunday

[Marsenault]

That sucks sooo much! they were so fun. i hadnt seen the DS course but it looked fun. i was supposed to go riding there this sunday with mark:mad: now he have no dirt jumps in victoria really. 911 jumps destroyed after 4 months of work from me and my friends, the owner threatened to cut our balls of and wrecked half of the jumps including our 25 footer. and made the jumps into dirt bike jumps. i know his 2 sons and one of them rides which i dont get. now haro is gone, where is there to jump?? oh and jarrad add me on your msn atomik_99@hotmail.com . what fork did you get after you broke yours? i didnt gert to talk to you after that happened you left so quickly.

[hags]

fuck nevermind i work at noon

[drunken_duncan]

son of a motherfucking bitch, i only ever hit those once, and i owned myself. i wanted to come out there and hit them again soon, ill try and convince the paretns to bring me up on saturday and come help dig.hopefully they'll be nice and take me out there.

[Squampton]

Well ultimate got cancelled so i'll come out all day, just please bring a shovel for me someone!

[Islandrider]

I will come and bring some people.

[balfa rider]

ya i can bring ya a shovel.. i can bring 2 spades and a flat head. anyone else in for a huge dig session 2morrow. if you cant make it ill be there sunday as well. oh i just got my DJ1 2day its pimp..dident get warrenty tho had to do that crash replacement crap

[dirty deeds]

You know you guys... you're only going to get all your hard work bulldozed again.

I'd suggest you get yourselves organized. Get some spokespeople for your group... if your all teenagers, maybe get some parents involved and go to the council and find a long term solution.

Most councils will actually be open to dirt jumps.. just like skate parks.. but they have to be in on the deal. They have to give the nod on where you build them etc..

It's no use fighting them, they'll win every time. If you go through the right avenues, you'll probably end up with great dirt jumps that you get to keep.

[balfa rider]

04 dj1 they wouldent give me warrenty

[Islandrider]

Originally posted by dirty deeds
You know you guys... you're only going to get all your hard work bulldozed again.

I'd suggest you get yourselves organized. Get some spokespeople for your group... if your all teenagers, maybe get some parents involved and go to the council and find a long term solution.

Most councils will actually be open to dirt jumps.. just like skate parks.. but they have to be in on the deal. They have to give the nod on where you build them etc..

It's no use fighting them, they'll win every time. If you go through the right avenues, you'll probably end up with great dirt jumps that you get to keep.

I have already gone to a tone of work to getting a jump park, it will be constructed soon in North Saanich. Dangerboy and Simbs are sponsoring it. And haro is a good place, the people seem to be fine with it just that one dude, and its expensive to plow the jumps again. If they do thats ok its fun building and I get better at it each time.

[balfa rider]

they gave me crash replacment. and i hear what your saying dirty deeds but over here in vic it dont work like that. it took us 2 years to get a shitty skatepark with 2 quaters and half a pyramid put in. the size of a tennis court. there is nothing realy that we can do. i am going to go talk with queen alexanderia about giving us some land thats aloud to be built on but i think it will be a lost cause. it might work tho and i will try as well as my parents and i know of lots others that will help

[Ghetto Smurf]

heres some pics for all of you that have never seen haro, or havnt been there in a while.

http://www.pinkbike.com/modules/photo/?op=view&image=152924

http://www.pinkbike.com/modules/photo/?op=view&image=163934 <--Smallest that that jump has been in about 4 months. Taken last weekend. Same with next pic

http://www.pinkbike.com/modules/photo/?op=view&image=163932

[dirty deeds]

Originally posted by Islandrider
And haro is a good place, the people seem to be fine with it just that one dude, and its expensive to plow the jumps again. If they do thats ok its fun building and I get better at it each time.

That's cool, if it's all just a cat and mouse prank, have at 'em. But they sound like pretty cool jumps that would be nice to keep. It's up to you guys. But I'd try for a permanent solution before charging in with the shovels again.

Over here, for instance the kids had Jay (Hoots) Krantz do a shit load of lobbying with North Van Council with the help of parents and ended up with some pretty good dirt jumps.

Good luck, whichever way you go. Every town needs good dirt jumps.

[Straw]

http://www.dirtyrobot.net/html/modules/news/article.php?storyid=47

Some info...

I just bought a shovel. See some of you tomorrow.

[ReCkLeSs RiDeR]

ah that sucks:(

[Del]

Originally posted by dirty deeds
That's cool, if it's all just a cat and mouse prank, have at 'em. But they sound like pretty cool jumps that would be nice to keep. It's up to you guys. But I'd try for a permanent solution before charging in with the shovels again.

Over here, for instance the kids had Jay (Hoots) Krantz do a shit load of lobbying with North Van Council with the help of parents and ended up with some pretty good dirt jumps.

Good luck, whichever way you go. Every town needs good dirt jumps.
Well, there are 0 jumps/trails really in the entire victoria area. Soon there will be N Saanich as Mark mentioned but thats like 30min atleast away by car. We will just rebuild em, as Jarret said it is pricey and tough to keep sending in diggers, especially with the obvious impact they made on foliage and stuff. Well do it again, as always and see what happens. As far as i can tell this isnt a park where they will do any kind of sanctioned jumps I dont think it is that kind of land. So as it stands we just keep on given er.

[balfa rider]

ill be down there at ten everyone bring a shovel. marks coming down as well should be a good building session

[Del]

Yeah ill come at 10 to the main jumps area. If you can guys bring a wheelbarrow too, that would be primo. :)

[Islandrider]

IM bring some people and shovels and we will be there early. I'll try to bring music too.

[balfa rider]

im there at 1030 stupid dentist:(

[shorebiker]

:( ah man, it always sucks to see anything get torn down.. kids just wanna have fun!! :(

[eryn]

this is just shameful. rest in peice haro

[Marsenault]

rest in peace? what are you talking about? it will rise again and dominate.
sorry i couldnt be there, i had to work 8-3. Marz is fucking retarded, they gave you a marathon crown on a dj1, its breaks and they dont warranty it? thats bullshit.

[Marsenault]

apparently sofa king is built up. its a rad trail to rip down with ome really nice jumps.

[Straw]

Some good digging went on today. I got there at 11:30, and by 4:30 we had two complete sets, and one kicker done.

I think there are some pics floating around of our work today...we got alot done.

Jon

[Del]

Originally posted by StrawDog
Some good digging went on today. I got there at 11:30, and by 4:30 we had two complete sets, and one kicker done.

I think there are some pics floating around of our work today...we got alot done.

Jon

Hey, I was Matt, the guy with the camo hat. Thats rad man, you guys are good diggers! So the second jump lookin nice? How is it compaired to the first? I am pumped for this new middle set. Just need all the great diggin to continue.

[Squampton]

the second jump is a lot higher than the first, the gap is comparable. The landing is fairly wide and the 3rd lip is 5 or so feet high. There is also a smaller lip for a hip beside the 3rd jump that will hook onto the 3rd landing. It will be done tomorrow.

[balfa rider]

we are having another dig day on sunday. everyone come out and help. if we can get as much stuff done as we did 2day we could have some mega pimp jumps. ill be down there at 10

[balfa rider]

were heading down there at around 11. BRING SHOVELS!!!!! and a wheelbarrow if u can.

[Straw]

Hello Guys;

Let me know how digging went today eh? Lots of wheelbarrows and shovels? Did anything major get built? (Wallride!!?)

Jon
(I was wearing a yellow hoodie and a black hat at the Sat dig. And I hadn't shaved in awhile...)

[Captain Da]

to whoever was saying we should attempt to go through the proper channels:

last year my friend and i did some serious work trying to get a dirt jump park in oak bay / uvic area, we made a presentation at an oak bay council meeting, had full support from simbs and oak bay bikes, and it just turned out that there was no space and no inclination. we'd come up with tons of possible locations but it just didn't work out. we even talked about that field at uvic where there used to be those tiny jumps, but oak bay council said that they've been trying to get uvic to let them use it, presumably to expand henderson, but uvic refused to allow to to be used for anything.

at any rate, that's really too bad about haro, i'll come out and dig when i have time.

[balfa rider]

ya i heard about that its dumb that they couldent put it were the old bmx track used to be, right beside oak bay high. stupid old ppl

[morley]

I feel sorry for you guys, I recently built a series of lines out of a massive bank to jersey barrier. It took me hours to clean up out all the garbage weeds and then shape it all. Then after a few months the city decides to put a fence in front of it and plant thorn bushes on the bank. It's amazing that the city can act so damn fast when a few old ignorant people complain, but when any kids try and organize somthing llegit the city doesn't do jack squat. Gotta love victoria!

[Incorrigible]

you know, that is why i will never move back to victoria, although i liked going to uvic. i loved vancouver, but i always knew growing up i would leave vic, and when i got to van, i never looked back. no fun allowed. oak bay high sucked too.

now, can somebody loan me a couple of hundred thou so i can go back to van at least??

[Ghetto Smurf]

help dig tomorrow around 330ish

[tashi]

Oh my lord.

I went to Haro today to see the damage first hand, and now I'm kinda upset. Before I wasn't 'cause we had had a good long run in there and a clean slate can be a good thing, also it was good to see all the stunts removed. Now I'm choked though. If they did this for ecological reasons, than they failed miserably. I really hope that the landowners learn from this and next time (there will be a next time, that's life) they want to protect the integrity of Haro they don't use heavy machinery. A full day's work of 10 guys could have eisly achieved the same effect (i'm guessing) without widneing paths, destroying bark, and creating new paths into the underbrush.

Good conditions for building now though.:)

Dig on.

[Islandrider]

14 hours of digging this weekend for nothing, the lips were super wide and prime :( . We got ownzored :cuffs:

[balfa rider]

well if you had see what we did over the weekend you would have been very happy. 2day i went down 2 do some touch up work and it all got plowed again.....ill get someone to post some pics of what it was in 2days of work

[Del]

FUCK I AM SO ANGRY RIGHT NOW I HATE HUMANS!!!! :mad: :mad: :mad: :mad: :mad: :mad:
I am in shock that the digger would come back so soon , the guys said the first time just to come back teh enxt day and start again, so thats what we did and we were going to keep it confined to the certain small area of the woods that isnt a direct trail but no we get stabbed in the back. FUCK.

These were literally the nicest line of jumps I had ever seen, the new ones that is. They were soooo wide and the last tranny was 15-20ft wide with two 3rd jump lips allowing for crazy style, step up or not.

See photo

[balfa rider]

so beautiful and now so flat. i think those were some of the greatest jumps victorias ever seen. to bad no one got 2 jump em:( :(

[Islandrider]

It doesnt seem worth riding now if you live in vic, everything is going to shit.

[Del]

Victoria is the lamest city on the map for anything fun that doesnt invovle drinking or smoking weed. :(

[balfa rider]

look at there beauty.....2 bad they are gone:(

[morley]

Well guys, the effort wasn’t all that wasted. They probably had to rent a bobcat to knock down the jumps, and that isn’t very cheap.

You could also look a this as the riding community taking a political stand, however it would have been more productive if the times colonist or another local media outlet (ie new VI, check 6, Monday Mag etc.) after or during the second build. Perhaps one more organized build and a media day would be more appropriate in order to get the municipalities attention? You already have pictures, so there is some evidence to all the previous work.

There was a nice set of DJ’s in Toronto called Rexdale, they weren’t that far out of the city but what made them stand the test of time was that no bobcat could reach the area to knock them down. Perhaps we should find a location in Victoria that would allow some digging without destruction. (i.e. Summit Park, Uplands Park) I am sure there are a few other locations.

PS - Victoria really isn’t that lame, it’s just the elitist old folk that control this city. You guys have to live in Ontario for a few years if you really want to experience boredom - no parks, and no riding during long cold winters.

[Del]

What happened to the shovel hidden under the third? Buried somewhere?

[morley]

I don't think it's really a question in regards to "available land", but rather the city giving us permission to use a portion of some local park for more then the traditional means our local leaders have invisioned. There are countless parks that are vancant with grass and dormant recreational fields that could be used. The fact is our local municipal politicians are out of touch with the youth, and now it seems the only way to get publicity is through drastic actions.


It’s always interesting how there is limited financial resources when it comes to the city investing in alternative sports, and always an abundant sum of funds for traditional sports that solely focus on competition rather then creativity. The new Oak Bay and the Gordon Head skate park a prime examples of wasting limited resources. Victoria and other municipalities need to look at the parks in Oregon or Hastings in Vancouver when it comes to skate park design. These facilities not only promote creativity, but they offer lots of room for progression and self expression. Why do municipalities refuse to build progressive parks that draw people in from all over North America to ride (skate or bike). Not only is this good for the local economy but it allows new entrants to the sport to view some the most progressive athletes in the sport. Something you would never see when building a few tennis courts or another white elephant (hockey arena or tennis bubble).

In regards to the pathetic attempt of a park in Oak Bay, I find it quite interesting that they chose to not use the land where the old bmx track was once located, or the field inside the giant oval track beside the Oak Bay dump that’s rarely used. You could easily create an amazing park inside there. Also creating a park inside the track would allow parents to run at the track while their kids could ride at the park. Oak Bay already has the highest property taxes in Victoria and with all the wealth located there it’s not like they would have any problems dealing with a minor increase if needed.

It’s time for these municipal leaders to get their heads out of their ass... The youth is the future and the parents and elders from previous generations have done nothing more then rape the earth of resources, been fiscally irresponsible, and then they ignore the interests of our youth. It's time for change!

[balfa rider]

well im going to try and figure out who to talk to about haro. to see if queen alexandria is willing to give us a bit of land to build on. its amazing how they could plow everthing on friday and then plow everything again 2day. i did not expect it to happen that fast. i thought at least i would be able to jump over spring break, but now i have nothing 2 ride:( :(

[balfa rider]

well screw haro im building somewhere else. if anyone would like to help(everyone plz) pm me or add on msn addy: Balfa_rider69@hotmail.com

[morley]

Well I will be in contact with you guys in the future, I am working on an article for Monday magazine and would like to use some of your pictures to complement it.

[Del]

Originally posted by morley
Well I will be in contact with you guys in the future, I am working on an article for Monday magazine and would like to use some of your pictures to complement it.

I have a bunch of photos of haro, the original bulldozing (its effect on the forest) and so on
mj_hoover@hotmail.com

[balfa rider]

go for it dont know how much it will do but.... if you need anymore pics my buddys got tons more realy good ones

[morley]

Well the article is going to be on the misconstrued views in society regarding skate parks, and DJ's. It's going to be quite a provocative article, and hopefully it will get some of the local minds thinking. Won't be coming out for a bit though as I'm quite busy at the moment with school. However I'll try and make it out for some dig sessions whenever the time allows.

[Del]

Sounds like a great idea man! Good on ya!

[Islandrider]

Morely,

Great Idea!
If you want your article in the Times Colonist I could probably help. My mom works there. :D

[Loopy]

Good luck guys..

[Incorrigible]

Make sure you let people know that it is infinitely better for kids to be downtown playing bongo drums, stoned out of their minds, than it is to be riding those "dangerous" bikes in precious woods that nobody goes in anyways, unless they are taking their dog for a shit. Way to go Morley!

[Ghetto Smurf]

i got tons of pics if u need em, and i took about a 1 min vid of the carnage that the buldozers created at the top part of haro...

[Islandrider]

Originally posted by Count Blah
My friends dad is an editor there (last time I checked) so I could probably get an article anywhere:P

Nice, we wont have a problem getting an article then.

[balfa rider]

that would be sweet getting an article in the news paper. maby then they will pay some attention 2 us