Goodridge brake lines reviewed.

[cam@nsmb.com]

Tough enough for fweewiding. (http://www.nsmb.com/gear/goodridge_11_03.php)

[corey@nsmb.com]

cool, I was looking forward to that!

[Pablo]

Has anyone installed one in a Hayes HFX Mag and G1? I just had a few questions on connecting the brake lines.

[lardy]

If you order the right kit, they should come with the correct fittings. I have put these on M4s and boy they make a difference.

Sharper feel, better modulation and the hoses are much more flexible and so prevent seals splitting when you crash!

They are the dogs danglies!

[ATN]

Looks nice, maybe I can finally remove the fish tank hose lol.

One note, you said Shandro rode a Trek Fuel at the Rampage.... that should read Diesel.

[Keefer]

Ouch, that's pricy! Almost double what they cost in USD!

I'm gonna head down to the states and pick up a set for the rear when I replace it; even with gas money down there, its still way cheaper!

[Todzilla]

Or you could try some mail order form the likes of www.chainreactioncycles.com. A set for Hayes is about £27 - which is about $40 US (sorry, don't know Canadian exchange rates...), factor in some postage and you'll be away.

That link (and other UK ones) may well be of use for European products like Marzocchi, Mavic, Michelin etc (what's with all the M's?). It works the same for us - something that costs $1000 US will set us back £1000 - that's 50% more!

[Loopie]

Those lines are toight:drool:
I personally would have to cover the whole line in shrink wrap....just preference:)

[damian]

Looks nice, but it better be for that price.

[NSTP]

oh are they ever nice, been talking to ppl, and it seems we'll all be sporting the lines for next season. they are totally worth the cash. basically you never have to buy new lines.

[Broken Fusion!]

I'm gonna buy some for next season.

My bike? SO pimp!

[Bryce]

Originally posted by NSTP
basically you never have to buy new lines.

Unless you switch frames and need a longer line

[NSTP]

Originally posted by Bryce
Unless you switch frames and need a longer line

True, but the stainless steal fittings are re-usable, and the actual lines them selves, retail for about $40, so cheaper than hayes, and better!

[UFO]

i hope norco picks up distribution on these. otherwise, there is no way i would fork up that kind of money on lines -- as good as they may be.

[Revscene]

Originally posted by UFO
i hope norco picks up distribution on these. otherwise, there is no way i would fork up that kind of money on lines -- as good as they may be.

agreed

[corey@nsmb.com]

Cool looking product.

Too expensive.

I'd like to see the actual cost of them....I bet its around $15 tops.

I bought a set of Jagwire steel braided lines....put them beside my Hayes line, and they are identical, right down to the same color kevlar wrap. Price ? $25, which includes fittings for Hayes, Grimecca, Shimano, Magura and Hope. Thats a little more realistic.

[Big_Air_Smite]

I'm gonna get a set, after i buy a new hub, shattered bearings and toasted cups :cry:

[Mountain Dewd]

mulletron i have heard terrible things about jagwires hydro lines....but i dont have any actual experice with there hydro stuff.

I think i am gonna get a set of these when i build my new ride next year, there so expensive though :cry:

[GrimniR]

Jagwire's hydro lines are horrible - they kink very easily and I actually burst one last spring. I would buy stock Hayes lines before buying Jagwires, but since I got a set of Goodridge lines in September I don't have to worry.

[corey@nsmb.com]

Originally posted by GrimniR
Jagwire's hydro lines are horrible - they kink very easily and I actually burst one last spring. I would buy stock Hayes lines before buying Jagwires, but since I got a set of Goodridge lines in September I don't have to worry.

Not dissing the Goodridge lines....but you gotta here me out.

Do this. Take a Hayes steel braided line. Take a Jag steel braided line. Put them side. They are IDENTICAL in EVERY possible way...same diamter, same wall thickness of the inner plastic tube, same color kevlar weave, same outer coating. Same pressure rating, same fittings.

I would put money on Hayes and Jag buying the hydraulic line from the same vendor and have their nametag inked on in the process.

To say one sucks is a pretty empty statement. The reality is the two products are physically identical, and the fact is, they both work well at their intended purpose, which is carrying hydraulic fluid to actualte the pistons in your brakes. The name stamped on them doesn't play a role in that. Brake lines for bicycles is far from rocket science...its a very basic application with very basic materials. As much as marketing might convince us otherwise, its the truth.

Kinked lines isn't really an issue if you route them properly on your bike. Once you have them on, it is virtually impossible to kink one unless your bike breaks in tow and is held together by the line as it rotates in 2 pieces. (or if you run a SC fork and spin yer bars in a crash...but any line besides Goodridge will kink if twisted enough that way).

Go ahead and support your investment. The GR are definately pimp lines if you can justify the $$$ for a brake line thats going to feel the same as a $30 unit. If I had the coin, I'd buy them too just for the :thepimp: factor. But really, I don't need Formula 1 lines on a bike that doesn't go 300mp/h to 30 mp/h in 400 feet. Ya know? I don't feel the need to spend big bucks on kink-proof lines when mine don't kink. :)

[Heatmizer]

Sounds like they're good quality and offer some nice benefits, but I just can't choke down $20/foot for a brake line.

[GrimniR]

I don't know about Jagwire and Hayes getting their lines from the same manufacturer. I've ran Hayes lines for four years without any problems, Last spring I put a Jagwire "steel braided" line on the rear brake. For one, they are not steel braided. They look like they are, but that's about as far as it goes. And sure you get every fitting known to man, but who cares? It's not like you're actually gonna use them all. Anyway, a week after putting it on it burst in the middle. So, being an idiot, I stuck another Jagwire on there. Good for about a month, then I had a pretty bad crash and the hose kinked near the lever. I let it, but eventually I gradually started loosing power. When Goodridge came on the scene I snapped up a set right away. When you cut Goodridge lines to length you can see the difference between an actual steel braid and a "steel braid" look like Jagwire. Goodridge lines make it feel like you're only running a foot of line between your lever and your caliper because they do not expand at all. When I first had them I had to get used to using one finger on the rear brake and not vice-gripping it like I used to. Plus, the lines are very tough and the attachment points will not rip out if caught on branches/rocks/stunts like standard lines.

It is true that Hayes lines and Jagwire lines look identical, but I've just never had any real problems with Hayes and nothing but problems with Jagwire. Maybe I got a bad production run or something...

[corey@nsmb.com]

Originally posted by GrimniR
I don't know about Jagwire and Hayes getting their lines from the same manufacturer. I've ran Hayes lines for four years without any problems, Last spring I put a Jagwire "steel braided" line on the rear brake. For one, they are not steel braided. They look like they are, but that's about as far as it goes.


It is true that Hayes lines and Jagwire lines look identical, but I've just never had any real problems with Hayes and nothing but problems with Jagwire. Maybe I got a bad production run or something...


They are steel braided. There is no question about it.

They are also identical to Hayes steel braided line. Putting them side by side and cutting each open reveals that they are the exact same in every sense possible. The product does not differ beyond the black ink on the hose with the name on it.

Sounds like you have just had some bad luck. I kid you not, they are exactly the same.

[Broken Fusion!]

I'll just leace my lines extra long, so that I can try to do some bar spins! And if my bike crashes and the bars twist around, they won't brake!

[tazzmenn]

Twp products can look identical but untill you do a material composition test they just look the same. Lexan and plexi glass look very similar at first glance, but only one will stop a bullet. Looks can be deceiving. I have never seen the jagwire lines out of the bag so I cant give an opinion. Minor changes are made to proprietary product lines so they can be sold to other clients.

[cheaprider]

I havent tried Goodriges mtb lines (yet) but when i stuck some of there motorbike lines on my Kawa z650 the performance upgrade was instantly noticeable-no spongyness,better modulation yadda yadda yadda....

As to price,well im sorry guys but it works the same way (in reverse)for us in Europe eg Intense Uzi frame £2200!!...count yourselves lucky you can get Brodies/Norco's at a non-import price...

[banjopete]

So far I've had no problems whatsoever with the albeit ghetto setup of standard hayes lines with 1/4" rubber hose wrapped around it at impact points, all for the every day low price of about 5 bucks from the auto parts store. This set of brakes is going on 3 bikes now and 5 years, champagne baby, can you say it?

Until what I have fails and for an obvious mechanical reason I'll stick to the cost effective method and thumb my nose at the bling factor.

[Shmoe]

The Jagwire cheapie lines and hardware are possibally the worst lines ive even used. The steel lines where not better. Although the steel lines are very similar to hayes, they kink way easier. I kinked one installing it on my bike! Not to mention their hardware does not fit hayes very well and all..

I want these new goodridge lines, badly. Hopefully I have some for next season.

[J dot]

I will get these lines for my front.. using a holow starnut goes threw MANY kinked hayes lines

[Heatmizer]

I have a question about the set up of these Cam.

In the pic you took of the lever attachment under your sexy Hellbent bar, it looks like the new fitting requires that the hose point out/away from the lever body 90 degrees, instead of the standard Hayes hose which comes straight out/parallel to your handlebars. Is this the only set up option?

I'm sure it's not a big deal, but to me it seems less "neat and tidy" and will make for a few extra inches and possibly loops of death. I like the fact that the regular lines don't have to lead away from the bars but can follow the line of the bars and can be tucked away neatly.

I'm sure you've put them thru hell, it just looks to me like it could be an achillies(sp?) heel so to speak.

Since I'm stuck with Hayes brakes for now (curse you Marzochhi) I'm looking at options to improce their performance.

[ATN]

That's a shimano XT brake with the 90 degree bend.

[Heatmizer]

Cool, thx for the info ATN

[IFO]

hahah go heatmizer...

im not gunna let u forget confusing a XT with a Hayes brake...

:eek:

[Heatmizer]

Ya, if only I had actually looked at the entire picture instead of just the end where the line attachs. The "XT" on the lever body would have been a dead give away :o

[M13]

oh my :o:eek:

i have dual mechs, they may not stop as good a hydros but they work:) but hydros are very tempting :thepimp: when i get myself soem more cash, i will get some:):)

oops, sorry for getting off the main stream

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anyways, i am with mullety for this one.
i have seen jagwire and normal hayes, they are identical, except lables, but we never know the EXACT difference in material composition. The Goodridge looks indestructable, but unless you kink the lines frequently, you dont really need kink proof.


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[v 10 rider]

the thing that makes me wonder is why do brake lines for a bike cost so much more than those for cars and trucks

[Heatmizer]

Same reason a good bike tire costs almost as much as an average passenger car tire, even though there is only about 3% of a car tire worth of material in a bike tire.

[vigilante]

Originally posted by v 10 rider
the thing that makes me wonder is why do brake lines for a bike cost so much more than those for cars and trucks

I'd say demand

[TylerDurden]

Any shops on the northshore sell Goodride brakelines???!!!

Looks like another vapourware product review from NSMB to add to the list:

RazorRock Levers - permanent backorder
e13 DRS Guide - any shop in Vangroovy got 'em in stock?!
Kenda Nevegal/BlueGroove - super scarce around town and Norco doesn't even list the 24" in their catalogue!
661 Dually shoe - again, not in any shops in the NSMB home turf...

[corey@nsmb.com]

Originally posted by TylerDurden
Any shops on the northshore sell Goodride brakelines???!!!

Looks like another vapourware product review from NSMB to add to the list:

RazorRock Levers - permanent backorder
e13 DRS Guide - any shop in Vangroovy got 'em in stock?!
Kenda Nevegal/BlueGroove - super scarce around town and Norco doesn't even list the 24" in their catalogue!
661 Dually shoe - again, not in any shops in the NSMB home turf...

e13 Guide.. Try Yodobike. Dom has them I believe.

Kenda's.... Norco dealers are supposed to have access to them. They are stocked at Norco. Both Norco and Kenda provided sizing and 24" was included. I didn't lie :lol:

661 Dually....shops problem for not stocking them. You can have them ordered in by any 661 dealer.

Kind of a pain, but everything we get is available to you too.

[Heatmizer]

I actually hunted thru the North American links in the article for these lines, and they all took me to a dealer/distributor, not a retailer, so no option to buy anything.
That was when the article 1st came out, I'll check it again and see if I get better luck.

[corey@nsmb.com]

..for what it is worth, I couldn't find anywhere that sold Goodridge lines either.

[Del]

I was thinking about getting those lines so i could do barspins fearless of kinking cables, should do decent eh?

[blunt boy]

Originally posted by corey@nsmb.com
e13 Guide.. Try Yodobike. Dom has them I believe.

Kenda's.... Norco dealers are supposed to have access to them. They are stocked at Norco. Both Norco and Kenda provided sizing and 24" was included. I didn't lie :lol:



I have a 24" Kenda Blue Groove. Works pretty nice too.

[Pablo]

Steed Cycles in NV has them in stock.

[Pablo]

[QUOTE]Originally posted by TylerDurden
[B]Any shops on the northshore sell Goodride brakelines???!!!

Steed Cycles has them in stock.

[TylerDurden]

Thanks for the tips Pablo, Corey & Co. I'll check out Steed for the goods. I ended up going direct to Ethirteen for my '04 DRS.

Oh yeah, one last thing, hammerheadbikes.com has BlueGroove and Nevegal 2.5's for $25US. Yup same as tires that sell for $75ea in north shore shops!

Its official, Canadian freeriders are getting hosed on parts by the middlemen..... I mean, do we all have 'sap' written on our forehead?

[Stinky_Rider]

How are the Stock Steel Braided XT lines? Would it be worth getting the Goodridge's instead?

[sirbikealot]

Originally posted by TylerDurden
Thanks for the tips Pablo, Corey & Co. I'll check out Steed for the goods. I ended up going direct to Ethirteen for my '04 DRS.

Oh yeah, one last thing, hammerheadbikes.com has BlueGroove and Nevegal 2.5's for $25US. Yup same as tires that sell for $75ea in north shore shops!

Its official, Canadian freeriders are getting hosed on parts by the middlemen..... I mean, do we all have 'sap' written on our forehead?

yes but are the second blemish and untested tires

Schwalbe just sent out a press release because someone illegally bought their seconds tires that are supposed to be destroyed and online shops are selling them

point is online shops don't care about you, just your money, what happens if something goes wrong, nobody is gonna help you

[sirbikealot]

Originally posted by Heatmizer
I actually hunted thru the North American links in the article for these lines, and they all took me to a dealer/distributor, not a retailer, so no option to buy anything.
That was when the article 1st came out, I'll check it again and see if I get better luck.

any shop in canada can get them from the distributor KMI.ca
it take a coupel days to get them to your shop

[pg_trail_junkie]

little pricey for me, nice if bikes came stock with these. have to say though I am on year 4 with my hayes lines and they are still fine. I just just a little hockey tape anywhere that there is a possibility for chafe!:cool:

[GRIZZ]

dont look to bad, i can finaly get rid of the cheap plastic crap around my lines