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trail worker

11-12-2003, 06:06 PM

There's a nice little gnarly root corner on this trail i'm doing a bit of work on,and I'd like to throw a little bit of grip on there to make it rideable(othewise the corner is NEARLY impossible).
Can anyone see a reason why i shouldn't throw a tad of grip in there?and will a bit of grip on this HUGE pair of roots really ad alot of traction? I think i remember seeing a few scraps of mesh hanging off some particularly gnarly root cluster's on a few old trails on the shore..can anyone confirm this?

Niggz

11-12-2003, 06:42 PM

hmmm, maybe dig out and rock in around the roots. I don't see much point in nailing anything onto the roots, otherwise you might as well hack them out.

trail worker

11-12-2003, 08:06 PM

digging out isn't a possibility,it's solid rock underneath the roots,cramming an odd shaped rock in there won't realy work too well.I was thinking just using a few short roofing shingle nails to hold a tiny strip of grip in.
i don't want to cut the roots out...they are about the size of small tree's

Robot

11-12-2003, 08:22 PM

Originally posted by trail worker
I think i remember seeing a few scraps of mesh hanging off some particularly gnarly root cluster's on a few old trails on the shore..can anyone confirm this?

Just because someone's nailed into a live root before doesn't make it right now, whether it's on the Shore, at Woodlot, or at Whistler. With trails across the province coming under increasing scrutiny, it's best to develop strong & sound building practices as soon as possible.

If rocking the section won't work, leave the roots as they are and take a lesson away from this section for whatever trails you build in the future (ie. consider carefully where you put your lines...).

trail worker

11-12-2003, 10:07 PM

Originally posted by Robot
If rocking the section won't work, leave the roots as they are and take a lesson away from this section for whatever trails you build in the future (ie. consider carefully where you put your lines...).

No need to educate me one the situation here..i know what i'm doing.just wanted a tad of advice here.
I did not cut a new line here,this was an existing trail once used for hiking which petered out of use.it is used occasionally by biker's,but probaly see's a combination of both tires and feet twice a month if lucky.Cutting a new line there is not an option,and the choice is either a 90 degree rock roll down(which cannot be rolled due to the angle you hit it on),or the roots.in the summer it would be fine,but in the winter it's a little narsty in there.

Robot

11-12-2003, 10:45 PM

Originally posted by trail worker
No need to educate me one the situation here..i know what i'm doing.

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Sorry man, but you asked for it. I understood that you weren't cutting a new line and were attempting to fix an existing problem on one of your trails. I gave you my opinion, nothing more.

Regardless, it sounds like you're doing the right thing. Sometimes you've got to live with the crappy lines.

trail worker

11-12-2003, 10:55 PM

Originally posted by Robot
ad·vice ( P ) Pronunciation Key (d-vs)
n.

1. Opinion about what could or should be done about a situation or problem; counsel.

Sorry man, but you asked for it. I understood that you weren't cutting a new line and were attempting to fix an existing problem on one of your trails. I gave you my opinion, nothing more.

haha no worries, i figured you probably thought that i was some 11 year old noob building out of plywood and 1by1's haha.

barry

11-13-2003, 03:59 PM

you arent? :???:

hahaha :P

if I was you i wouldnt grip it. let the n00bs suffer.

wilkez

11-13-2003, 04:11 PM

build a roller coaster over it. thats what niggz and i seem to do with small problems such as that corner :lol:

trail worker

11-13-2003, 04:16 PM

Originally posted by wilkez
build a roller coaster over it. thats what niggz and i seem to do with small problems such as that corner :lol:
hahaha,if i had a chainsaw at my disposal,there would already be a masterpeice to bypass this thing.problem is the trail is super steep so it's pretty hard to do much building in.There is space for a few stunts,but nothing huge.

Niggz

11-13-2003, 06:58 PM

if there is a rock roll option, put a rock or whatever at the end of it to lessen the wiplash effect. otherwise, i'd say people are left to deal with the beauty that is the west coast.

trail worker

11-13-2003, 07:56 PM

Originally posted by Niggz
if there is a rock roll option, put a rock or whatever at the end of it to lessen the wiplash effect. otherwise, i'd say people are left to deal with the beauty that is the west coast.
it's impossible to turn onto the 90 degree roll down,otherwise it'd be perfectly feasable to just huck it.it's just too tight in there...i think i'll just leave the line the way it is,and if possible i'll do some rockwork around the entire area to try and make it a better corner etc etc.
i just wanted to see what people opinions of throwing some grip on the roots was.

$lack

11-13-2003, 08:46 PM

My parents live in Roberts Creek near Camp Byng.
I'm always looking for new trails up there.
I'm also looking for riding partners up there.
I'm not up there too often, just now and again when I bring my kids up to Gramma and Grampa's house.
Would you divulge the trail location?

Taylor_P

11-13-2003, 11:58 PM

Originally posted by $lack
My parents live in Roberts Creek near Camp Byng.
I'm always looking for new trails up there.
I'm also looking for riding partners up there.
I'm not up there too often, just now and again when I bring my kids up to Gramma and Grampa's house.
Would you divulge the trail location?

how about next tine your coming up you Pm trail worker or i. always happy to show people the trails. otherwise its below red past the dam. instead of turing left to sidewinder you go strait, down the path. bad directions, i know... :)

Grimace

11-14-2003, 02:00 AM

julien leave it alone that section is tricky, jsut gotta go slow and balance

Grimace

11-14-2003, 02:01 AM