Flow and Decline Magazines?

[Wildeman]

Hey could someone just let me know of what is going on with the two magazines someone said that flow is gone and decline is up from the producers of flow? What is the scoop?:rolleyes:

[J dot]

flow = gone

the makers of flow split up..

one made a new mag called "decline"

the other called "twenty six"

[Wildeman]

thanks
:)

[Mountain Dewd]

Interesting, are they in book stores yet, gotta check this out:)

[Chump]

They were handing out decline at interbike. It is really good awesome articles Dylan has asick one in the first issue

Steve

[IFO]

i cant find these new mags at my local London drugs....grrr...

and they usually carry all the good mtnbike mags..

:mad:

[Battlecat]

They had a decline in john Henry. It is exaactly like Flow. I think they should have kept the same name

[rfoubi]

how many flow issues were there? 3? that was a sweet mag

[richieB]

The guys who used to work at Mountain Biking and Flow Magazine (the same staff) parted ways on terms that have yet to be sorted out by the courts.

If you listen to the editors and former associate Publisher, it was all above board. The people who own the Flow, Mountain Biking and Fitness Cycling names claim that this was not the case, and there ia a rather large pending lawsuit against the former associate publisher.

The staff of Decline and Twenty Six are super cool guys, and have a lot of talent. It'll be interesting to see what happens to the mags, as it's about time someone brings something printed out that's worth more than the roll of paper hanging beside my crapper.

Bike Mag still rocks my world, but there just aren't any other worth-while mags out there...and I've been buying them religiously since 1987.

Anyhow, Challenge Publications syill claims ownership to the name Flow magazine, and claims that the mag will continue as it was...I'm not sure how, as Ralf and the other editors were the only reason anyone actually read Challenge publications' rags.

just my $.02

rb

[Oldfart]

I bought the first issue of Twentysix. I haven't decided yet if its worthy. In the test of the Heckler they stated that they didn't like the XTR integrated shifters and brake levers because you can't brake and shift at the same time. Well, having ridden on the new XTR for about 8 months, shifting and braking simultaneously frequently from day one, all I can say is these guys, or at least the tester and editor, can't ride. Or tell the difference between shit and shoe polish. If they can't shift and brake that bike, can I believe anything else they opine with respect to equipment?

[WBC]

I love Decline!

It seems to be a little more fluid than Flow (ironically enough ;) ) and it has better pictures with better res.

Tremblay's article rocked! Mass local representation, too!

[Grimace]

scott hart is tha man

[richieB]

Ok...I think that saying they don't know what theyre talking about (to paraphrase Or tell the difference between shit and shoe polish) is a little presumtuous. They are expressing opinion...that's what a review is all about...it's like saying someone can't ride if they dislike a specific bike. Oldfart, you may be a little off base...

They're allowed opinions, and yes, they can ride...perhaps some of us need to open our minds a little...rapidfire and Hayes still rock the world...no reason to quibble or discount thir opinions...but again, that's just my opinion.

rb

[Oldfart]

It was not expressed as an opinion but as a fact. Something like "...because you can't shift and brake simultaneously.." It wasn't "We find it harder to shift and brake at the same time" Or we just prefer other shifters but it was satetd as a fact which I know is just plane wrong. I want a magazine review to express dislikes with stuff. I think everyone dislikes the candy coated reviews which never have problems, where everybike is great. God, ski reviews are the worst.

I am willing to give them a chance though. I'll keep an eye on them. I wasn't a fan of Mountainbiking but I'm interested to see if the style is different.

[richieB]

Good call...

I appreciate the civil, thought out response...all too rare in these here parts

rb

[Formulaphoto]

Originally posted by J dot
flow = gone

the makers of flow split up..

one made a new mag called "decline"

the other called "twenty six"

Just to clarify...the STAFF who worked for Challenge Publications (Flow, Mountain Biking, etc.) left and started their own publication company called H3 Publications. This company now makes Twentysix, Decline, and a road magazine. The makers of flow did not split up. Scot Hart is the editor of TwentySix, while Ralph Hauser is the editor of Decline.

Flow is not gone...

PS - Long live LAUNCHmtb :D

[J dot]

Originally posted by Formulaphoto


PS - Long live LAUNCHmtb :D


A MEN TO THAT

[Trini-dad72]

Richie, OldFart. Good job y'all, no needless crap just well thought out responses. As for the mags, well I bought TwentySix and Decline and as it is I like them both. I tend to buy almost any MTB Mag any way just cause I can't get enough. Heck I 'd own TONS of vids too if they were not so expensive, but oh well;) Decline and twentysix get my money, nice to have some different mags with some different ideas.

[Bryce]

Originally posted by Formulaphoto
PS - Long live LAUNCHmtb :D

Launch is gonna be steppin it up this year

[BRT]

Yeah, LAUNCHmtb. Long live!

[corey@nsmb.com]

Originally posted by Bryce
Launch is gonna be steppin it up this year

Nice, hopefully they start editing it too!!

[KenN]

Originally posted by Mulletron
Nice, hopefully they start editing it too!!

Damn ... you beat me to it! (heehee)

Kn.

[Bryce]

Originally posted by Mulletron
Nice, hopefully they start editing it too!!

So true, so many errors in the first issues of Launch

but it can only improve. the last issue was relatively clean.

the groms/bikes article was cool. Gulevich is amazing

[c2skyrida]

Originally posted by Bryce
So true, so many errors in the first issues of Launch

but it can only improve. the last issue was relatively clean.

the groms/bikes article was cool. Gulevich is amazing

If they'd use the article recently submitted via email on a new mtb flic coming up - they'd be better then ever! ;)

[pistbroke]

Originally posted by Oldfart
I bought the first issue of Twentysix. I haven't decided yet if its worthy. In the test of the Heckler they stated that they didn't like the XTR integrated shifters and brake levers because you can't brake and shift at the same time. Well, having ridden on the new XTR for about 8 months, shifting and braking simultaneously frequently from day one, all I can say is these guys, or at least the tester and editor, can't ride. Or tell the difference between shit and shoe polish. If they can't shift and brake that bike, can I believe anything else they opine with respect to equipment?



easy tiger, all the dudes involved with the mags are top level riders, and they put together 3 mags with 3 dudes. For those that care, they also are producing a top caliber road mag as well,,,,,,,,,,there are alot of folks that may dispute your opinions as well. It seems to me that if you are going to shift and brake at the same time you are a bit sketchy anyhoo........

I bin riding fer a long time yo, and I can say that if you are able to shift and brake at the same time you aren't going fast enough..........before you rip me old fart, provide an example of why you would need to..............??

If your shifting to an easier gear it would be to climb......??? I know I always like to slam on the brakes when I'm about to sprint uphill............and if yer downshifting( DH racers.....) wouldn't it be to accelerate?????????

the tech came from STi road stuff, the point of the system is so not to have to move yer fingers, not to do both at the same time.