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trail worker
10-20-2003, 05:19 PM
Is there any actual noticable difference in the teflon coated cables vs. regular run of the mill cables?they'd be going in my hayes mechanical disc brakes.anyone have anything to say about em?




Jeff M
10-20-2003, 05:27 PM
Tried em once, as shifter cables. They are very smooth when new, but the coating wears off and gums up the system very fast if any grit works it's way in. Running full housing would be a good idea. Also, make sure that you don't use meatal ferrules as they will wear off the coating as well. Personally I didn't think they were worth the money, for the price I'd rather just replace my cable and housing more often.

sanrensho
10-20-2003, 05:42 PM
I use them, and don't notice any build-up from the teflon coating. I also haven't noticed any degradation in braking or shifting performance from using the teflon cables. However, I also keep things tuned pretty frequently.

HellBent
10-20-2003, 05:50 PM
i have one on the front and it is alot smother than the regualr cable for the rear

Tony G
10-20-2003, 05:51 PM
the best thing to get would be stainless steel cable. any coating like that will wear off...if i ran teflon coated cables then id put grease on it as well then feed it through ur cable housing.

BAC5.2
10-20-2003, 06:02 PM
The only good coated cables are GORE cables. But they are expensive.

ronald55555
10-20-2003, 06:06 PM
Originally posted by HellBent
i have one on the front and it is alot smother than the regualr cable for the rear

it's probably just because it's in the rear that makes it not as smooth, since the rear goes through much more housing and bends.

i like the stainless steel cables too.

trail worker
10-20-2003, 06:15 PM
yeah i run a full length of housing for the front/rear.takes quite a few intricate loops in there...
i think i'll try one out for the back,see how it works.

I modded my rear housing a bit to allow me to lube the cable without taking everything apart..i cut the housing in two places,found some black rubber housing(in this case it was from a floor pump),joined them back together.
this way,if things start to feel a little clogged back there,i can pull the black rubber off,pull the two peices of cable apart,apply a bit of lube,and pop em back together...
works well for me,but i just wanted to give the teflon cables a try,for the hell of it.

tazzmenn
10-20-2003, 06:32 PM
better off to buy either gore or plain old stainless and replace them on a regular basis. The teflons dont last very long for the price ya pay. i usual clean my cable housing with Tri flow which has teflon in it. and replace cables when i do that. i replace housing in the spring.

white ri0t
10-20-2003, 06:37 PM
I used to run them. You are better off with a good stainless cable and a bottle of tri flow and to maintain them.

IF you do buy them, they come in a pack of two, so split it with a buddy, and you each get one for the rear derallieur. they are easy to fuck up the installation, too. Not worth it, IMO.

Ashek
10-20-2003, 08:21 PM
Sounds like Paul worked his magic yet again eh julian?
upsell upsell upsell ;)

trail worker
10-20-2003, 08:24 PM
Originally posted by Ashek
Sounds like Paul worked his magic yet again eh julian?
upsell upsell upsell ;)
haha nah actually he didn't!
but after riding in the completely pissing rain today(yes,i rode for 3 hours today in this weather),i decided that maybe some smoother cables would keep things running nice all winter..
if i get some teflon cables i'll get em in town,i'm not a huge fan of spin cycles,for quite a few reasons actually..
;)

Ashek
10-20-2003, 08:32 PM
oh, oh i know the reasons, i can probably attest to them myself. But in a pinch...
I rode on sunday, was just awesome. Lots of people out too.
btw, yer crazy for riding out today, it was terrential...
I would have, but didnt feel like cleaning my bike twice in one weekend ;)

I just got a stainless set for my commuter bike, and its shifting piss poorly. I blame the wheel and cogs for that though.
The diff between 6$ and 2$ for a cable is significant if yer changing 4 of em.

trail worker
10-20-2003, 08:35 PM
Originally posted by Ashek
oh, oh i know the reasons, i can probably attest to them myself. But in a pinch...
I rode on sunday, was just awesome. Lots of people out too.
btw, yer crazy for riding out today, it was terrential...
I would have, but didnt feel like cleaning my bike twice in one weekend ;)

I just got a stainless set for my commuter bike, and its shifting piss poorly. I blame the wheel and cogs for that though.
The diff between 6$ and 2$ for a cable is significant if yer changing 4 of em.
yeah,well i only actually have to do the brake cables i think,so i'll probably pick up a couple in vancouver tommorow,amongst other things.
yes,it was more than torrential today,it was horrible.we planned on riding wildman,but it was just too wet,so we rode ridge which is right near torrent.damn steep in some parts,and it sure was alot of fun!
coming back under the power lines was crazy,there were puddle that went up to my axles,and i got stuck in one and had to jump off into the muddy water,and my shoes got all wet.
anyhow,hope to see ya on the ferry tommorow.

Shmoe
10-20-2003, 08:38 PM
I run regular cables/housing, but I soak the cables in teflon lube for a little bit before I start. Then I squirt some teflon lube down the line and install. My brakes feel so dialed, its a rear V which is more powerful then any brake ive ever felt.

Of course, on the DH bike I run some hydros:)

Shmoe
10-20-2003, 08:40 PM
Whoops! Forgot the mention that I also use shift housing for my brakes, been doing it for a while and it makes for a much nicer feel. Just make sure you put a little bit of lube in them or they can feel kind of grainy. Part of the reason I do this as well is because sis housing is uncompressible so the brake will always feel the same, even if the cable is twisted around.

trail worker
10-20-2003, 08:43 PM
Originally posted by Shmoe
Whoops! Forgot the mention that I also use shift housing for my brakes, been doing it for a while and it makes for a much nicer feel. Just make sure you put a little bit of lube in them or they can feel kind of grainy. Part of the reason I do this as well is because sis housing is uncompressible so the brake will always feel the same, even if the cable is twisted around.
are you sure you use shifter housing and brake cables?
i've done the reverse,with good results but i found the cable would stretch too easily.i've also tried doing shifter housing with brake cable,but the brake cable is thicker,so....they weren't compatible.:???:

MattK8588
10-20-2003, 10:38 PM
Originally posted by trail worker
are you sure you use shifter housing and brake cables?
i've done the reverse,with good results but i found the cable would stretch too easily.i've also tried doing shifter housing with brake cable,but the brake cable is thicker,so....they weren't compatible.:???:

You gotta run the 5.0 mm housing instead of the 4.0mm stuff. I think it's stupid they have two sizes, no one I know uses 4.0.

switch
10-21-2003, 03:22 AM
Teflon cables alone doesn't make any/much difference, but teflon cables inside teflon housing works well.

I used full length housing and grease the cable well. I've also started changing cables frequently.

Curtis
10-21-2003, 10:52 AM
Originally posted by BAC5.2
The only good coated cables are GORE cables. But they are expensive.

Best damn cables ever, I had the same cables on a bike for
3yrs before I parted the bike out. I had grip shift and to the day I took that bike apart it shifted like new.