Preventing Shiver leg twisting

[nick1111]

I've heard from other Shiver owners that the legs of the fork tend to twist in the crowns after hard landings or crashes. The legs of my Shiver now seem slightly mis-aligned. Does anyone have advice for preventing this (besides using Monster T crowns :P)? I don't own a torque wrench, but I could borrow one. What about loctite on the bolts?

[v 10 rider]

don't use an inverted fork, they will twist up from time to tome but you jsut have to straigten them, i don't think there is any way to stop this from happening

[corey@nsmb.com]

All inverted forks do this. In reality, it is better to see them twist in a bad crash than snap the arch, as I have seen multiple "other" forks do.

The crowns are sensitive to how much you torque the bolts..Over tightening will stretch the crowns and create problems. Do not lube the bolts and I wouldn't lock-tite. Dry aluminum on dry aluminum holds well.

Dorados do it, Shivers do it, and White bros do it, to name a few.

I have been on my Shiver since March and have not had it happen yet.

[nick1111]

Is it normal for the bolts to make horrible creaking noises as you tighten/untighten them? Mine have always done this, and that has led me to want to lube them.

[corey@nsmb.com]

Yup. Mine do it too. Just the sound of metal on metal.

Using lube will cause you to over tighten them, and have no clue you did as with lube, it will feel effortless to over-torque in this application.

[freerider4ever]

Lube prevents the screws from seizing and getting stuck in place though.

[corey@nsmb.com]

...They are not likely to get stuck dry in this application as they are not torqued up at a level that could make them get stuck.

[dhrider]

mulletron, you always have the sickest posts that shut everyone up :P lol

[corey@nsmb.com]

..I'm not trying to...all I am trying to do is give solid credible advice!

If it is something I don't understand, I keep my mouth shut. :)

[Shmoe]

Please.. Put a little grease on the bolts:eek: You dont want anything to seize if you ride in the rain/muck after a while. I greased bolt will also give smoother force. I own a shiver, ive never had it happen, I take mine completely apart after every few rides to overhaul/regrease/new oil ect and it runs mintly.

[some dude]

Your fork twists in the crown??? Whoa - glad I'm not an in invert. Must be nice performance but my psyche couldn't handle the idea that my fork was going to twist on me. :eek:

[Captain Stabbin]

Well of course its gonna give a lil bit after a crash...it has no middle support. I have never heard of anyones shiver legs twisting on landings though....i hear about flex but i dont notice that kinda stuff

[speed metal]

Originally posted by Mulletron
...They are not likely to get stuck dry in this application as they are not torqued up at a level that could make them get stuck.

That doesn't make any sense at all. What about corrosion? The reason for lubing (or loctiting if you are worried about them coming loose) is so they don't gall and give you a false feeling that they are tight.

[tomatoz]

um....i have a dorado now and i find it ..that dorado twis more then shiver

[Broken Fusion!]

Does it even matter if it twists? I think it's more aesthetics than anything else.

[bighitter]

Originally posted by speed metal
That doesn't make any sense at all. What about corrosion? The reason for lubing (or loctiting if you are worried about them coming loose) is so they don't gall and give you a false feeling that they are tight.
i'd have to agree.grease is almost always advised so one can achieve a proper torque value.with fork parts being as expensive as they are galling could/can be an expensive screw up.personally i would stay away from loctite(inless recommend by manufacturer) and just do a regular check on all your bolts.

[FullMonty]

grease + torque wrench = goodness.

seriously, as long as you maintain proper torque on the bolts, having them greased will make no difference as to whether they stay tight or not. if you want to be really anal, buy a good ft-lb. 3/8ths drive torque wrench, and some allen drivers. Read your owner's manuals, and tighten all your bolts to torque spec.

[switch]

Never Seize. Accept no substitutes. :)

[JOTA]

maybe upside-down forks don´t have too much sense in mtb... the motorbikes use them to reduce the unsuspended weight, so the wheels could copy eassier the terrain, but this kind of fork loose stiffness so they must be thoughter and bigger, so they weight more...:???: reducing the difference between the normal fork and the USD´s unsuspended weight...
I had a shiver and if you put the wheel between ur legs and pull-push the bar it moves a lot... u can overthighten the bolts, but the lack of stiffness will be there...The dorados I´ve tested where the same...or worst...:P
888 rules

[Painless]

Had a shiver.... and this is one of the reasons I now ride a Monster T.

I can't personally put my trust into a fork that can twist as much as inverted ones do. Mind you, I had a 2001 Shiver (one of the first)... and rode it very hard.

But, all in all, Monster T is the way to go... no twisting, breaking, flexing at all. But the weight penalty is definetly there.

[mattoid]

I grease the screws on my shiver. Before i started doing it the fork would creak all the time. I figured this was a bad thing and im glad that I have stopped it. Also i think that the bolts on that fork arent all that good. Once i apparently over tightened the axle bolt and the allen head stripped out if anyone knows what i mean by that you might be able to imagine how much of a mess that was. Anyway thats another reason for me using grease.

[FatHack]

ANTI-SEIZE, preferably the silver shimano kind($$)

[switch]

Originally posted by FatHack
ANTI-SEIZE, preferably the silver shimano kind($$)

That silvery looking stuff - that's it. Used to get it for cars and put it on the wheel lugs and lug nuts. Works awesome.

[freerider4ever]

I had a bolt that was not over tightened and after riding in the mud a few times, it seized, I got an easy out and got the screw out, but without grease things can get stuck.