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Ashek
10-02-2003, 12:03 AM
Seems like everytime im riding quickly down something rocky and repetetive (washboard on switchbacks in whistler, babyheads, stairs etc) my knuckles kill after about 2 mins to the point that it hurts to even hold the bar. Anyone else get this? or am I just becoming a geizer.
what helps? more plush fork? tighter gloves? tape?
Also, do you guys deathgrip yer bars or just have a loose grip on it?
dhrider
10-02-2003, 01:17 AM
Originally posted by Ashek
Also, do you guys deathgrip yer bars or just have a loose grip on it?
when its like a drop or downhill, i grip decently tight i guess, but dj'ing i get really soft as soon as the tires leave the ground, because then you're more nible to do tweaks and other stuff.
and ya i get that too, but no more cuz shivers;) haha, but a plusher fork would help, but dont bottom it out every 5 seconds on a ride.
hope it helps
Broken Fusion!
10-02-2003, 04:08 AM
k, at whistler, I can often keep up to people on duallies, (on my HT) by "letting go of the bars." sounds lame, but it works.
Just accept the fact you;re gonna get tossed, and roll with it.
I've drank a lot, so if this doesn't make sense, just come to kamloops and hit me with a bat.
CHEERS!
-chris
BULLITBOY
10-02-2003, 10:20 AM
Me and my boys refer to it as "the claw syndrome". The more often you ride, the less you'll get it. Try not to deathgrip your bars too.
Ashek
10-02-2003, 01:18 PM
Ive noticed that when I tune down my preload that it helps a bit, fork is more responsive to smaller bumps and softens the ride. Does this increase the chance of it bottoming on bigger stuff?
What I'm worried about tho is buying a new bike and not being able to ride it because of pain.
Arthritis forever!
wickedmcdougle
10-02-2003, 04:42 PM
Last tiime at whistler on my hardtail I got that, but i didn't wanto qquit. What you do is yell HOLD ON LIKE GRIM DEATH!!!! GRIM DEATH GRIM DEATH all the way down aline and bikerx, and it takes your mind of your hurting hands. I got 13 runs in, and had to quit at 445 because my hands couldn't physically hold on anymore. On the A line drop I landed and my hands just let go, and I rode no hands into the bush.
ReCkLeSs RiDeR
10-02-2003, 04:43 PM
lose grip and speed:lol:
wickedmcdougle
10-02-2003, 04:53 PM
thats true, the faster you go, the smoother it is
ReCkLeSs RiDeR
10-02-2003, 05:06 PM
definetly i've decided that:
-slow speed is fine because you don't hit any holes hard
-medium is the worst because you hit everything with speed and it hurts
-mach1 is where it's at skim the surface of the braking bumps and holes:) :)
243_ht
10-02-2003, 05:29 PM
Originally posted by Broken Fusion!
k, at whistler, I can often keep up to people on duallies, (on my HT) by "letting go of the bars." sounds lame, but it works.
Just accept the fact you;re gonna get tossed, and roll with it.
I've drank a lot, so if this doesn't make sense, just come to kamloops and hit me with a bat.
CHEERS!
-chris
Aluminum or wood?
Stinky_Rider
10-02-2003, 05:35 PM
What for are you running? If its a marzocchi it wil stack up super fast in whistler (from experience), if you have a aboxxer it should be ok, or just about anything else.
Cya,
Chris
Speed Racer
10-02-2003, 05:44 PM
That happened to me on a trail up b and k, it hurt.
Ashek
10-02-2003, 05:50 PM
I didnt wanna take my HT, so i got a rental. If I remember, they had boxxers on em. It was kind of stiff tho, so that could have been it. The shale section was especially bad, at the turn it was awful. bikerx... dont get me started, potholes the size of bowling balls. Whistler trails dont seem maintained very well (although im sure they are, with the volume they get).
I guess the faster you go, the easier it gets? (until you hit something)
Keefer
10-02-2003, 06:00 PM
Faster is better, but if you have a junk fork, it's gonna suck. My DJ1 spikes hardcore. Not just at high speeds. Some othe rpeople complaining about having shitty high speed rebound on say, Jr. T's, and DJ1's, so that makes it more harsh to go faster. I can see my fork flex backwards when I go over the braking bumps, it's scary.
After riding there enough, it goes away. I call it Whistlerititis, but I don't get it anymore unless I do like, 20 runs in a day.
People say fatter grips and all that, I dunno about the grips. Lower your tire pressure. It does wonders.
dhrider
10-02-2003, 07:33 PM
Originally posted by Lunatik
Whistleritis
:lol: good call :werd:
Loopie
10-02-2003, 08:26 PM
Like you mentioned......health problems with your joints will make some feel it more than others.
Washboard sucks.
Sparkplug
10-02-2003, 10:10 PM
Originally posted by Keefer
My DJ1 spikes hardcore.
I was having the same problem with my DJ1. I have since found out that this has been a common issue due to an internal valving problem (the speed selector valve). They will warranty this issue for you. Highly suggested before your fork dies like mine did (cracked stanchion and cracked M-arch)- both caused by the ssv. Luckily, mine is still under warranty.
Ashek
10-03-2003, 11:41 AM
What exactly is the difference between spiking and stacking?
Stacking I understand, too slow a rebound rate, fork doesnt come back fully before the next hit, whats spiking though?
white ri0t
10-03-2003, 11:41 AM
Sounds like a call for Trail Maintenence! :eek:
Broken Fusion!
10-03-2003, 01:27 PM
Originally posted by 243_ht
Aluminum or wood?
definitely wood
c2skyrida
10-03-2003, 04:27 PM
Dial your levers in a bit too perhaps. If your hand is relaxed and in closer it doesn't bother you as much.
Sparkplug
10-03-2003, 07:16 PM
Originally posted by Ashek
What exactly is the difference between spiking and stacking?
Stacking I understand, too slow a rebound rate, fork doesnt come back fully before the next hit, whats spiking though?
From what I understand, spiking is caused by hydraulic lock out. ie. in my case the ssv wasn't allowing oil through the valve when it was supposed to thereby losing the advantage of the hydraulic compression.
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