Marz z150 or sherman flick?

[B-Rad]

which 1 i cant deside. im going ht for the winter since cant ride anymore due to injury so which fork would u take and what is a good price for each of em. i will mainly be riding street and skateparks. no trails some dirt jumps.

[DangerousDean]

probbly the flick.. mainly becuase its short travel

[willmtbike4food]

flick - you said you'll be riding street and parks. its much stiffer than the 150 (from what i've heard), and the travel is adjustable.

ya, theres the rapid travel adjust on the outside, but, you can do it on the inside, and not worry about breaking "that little white clip."


how're you injured?? if you say "i can't ride anymore due to injury" and then you say "i'm going ht for the winter". :S maybe i just don't get it?? :???:

[spongebob]

I'm gonna agree and say the flick, its proved to be a top fork:D

[DangerousDean]

Originally posted by spongebob
I'm gonna agree and say the flick, its proved to be a top fork:D

except they suck and break

[Broken Fusion!]

only for hacks ;)

[mike]

whats wrong with the fork on there

[Mr. Charles]

i bet the new shermans are great. i wouldn't get a 03.

i think there were some consistant problems with the 03s. I know quite a few developed a creaking VERY quickly... ...mines creaking like a bitch, and the seal on the dampener side is leaking oil a little.(but it IS leaking... :mad: )

when get a BMX (soon) i am going to send it in. for now, i ride as smooth as possible...


Oh yea... i think manitou is not going to drop the ball on their shermans. the were too popular not to improve. I'd get the 04 in a heart beat.

for the record, the overall performance of the fork is superb.


it's very very stiff (20mm)

[dirtjumper125]

I would go with the flick. (for park and street)

[Mr. Charles]

Originally posted by DangerousDean
except they suck and break

you just got a new fork, right? If you did, then you have the "i have a new product and my old one sucked" syndrome. Not to worry, that will pass.

[DangerousDean]

Originally posted by BoyBoy
you just got a new fork, right? If you did, then you have the "i have a new product and my old one sucked" syndrome. Not to worry, that will pass.

i understand zero of that?


im joking but mine is sucking... its leaking oil out of ... one of the legs.. lol i cant rember which .. and i dont wanna look... and it actaully is leaking... its not the regualr.. little bit its actually drippy and gross, its creaking and the stantions are falling out



and chris, didnt you ahve a flcik too ? and it broke? HACK , i bet you'll break your dorado sc too.. poser

[Del]

nobody needs a 6" fork for street dirtjump etc. I have a 5" flick and wish I almost had less travel (like the 3" one coming up)

I would get the flick with hex for sure, mine has surpassed any marz ive had by miles.

[bullit_kid]

my flick has creaked since day 1

not bad
am i worried no
do i complain

no

it does leak oil tho, but i dont care
just ride bitches

[Mr. Charles]

Originally posted by DangerousDean
i understand zero of that?


im joking but mine is sucking... its leaking oil out of ... one of the legs.. lol i cant rember which .. and i dont wanna look... and it actaully is leaking... its not the regualr.. little bit its actually drippy and gross, its creaking and the stantions are falling out



and chris, didnt you ahve a flcik too ? and it broke? HACK , i bet you'll break your dorado sc too.. poser

i thought you just bought a dorado. must be someone else.

its funny i have the leaking creaking problems too.

[Bukkake]

Originally posted by DangerousDean
i understand zero of that?


im joking but mine is sucking... its leaking oil out of ... one of the legs.. lol i cant rember which .. and i dont wanna look... and it actaully is leaking... its not the regualr.. little bit its actually drippy and gross, its creaking and the stantions are falling out



and chris, didnt you ahve a flcik too ? and it broke? HACK , i bet you'll break your dorado sc too.. poser


Warantee it you fool! Send it back to OGC wait a week or two (probably less from what I heard) You'll get it back nice and new and pretty.

It's not like sending a marz to norco, the sherman guys actually care.


BTW anything that looks like oil on the stanchions is just grease from inside the seal and is no cause for concern, oil leaking out of the fork leg is fixed by replacing one O-ring you can get at home depot for less than 20 cents.

[duncs05]

Ive sent mine in twice, one for bushings, one for creaking, and its going to get sent in for a third for creaking. The performance of the fork is good, and it stands up well to bigger stuff. Id like to check out the 04s

[B-Rad]

i chipped my pelvis and takes time 2 heal so by october i will be bikin. and sounds like most of you say flick so it will probably be the fork I end up with. as for my fork now.....i like it but want sometin newer with better intenrals and feels nicer.

[willmtbike4food]

oil is not leaking out of the fork. this is one of the biggest misconceptions about manitou products out there.


this is an email i got from a manitou employee, regarding the "leaking oil" and prep-m lube.












Prep M grease was originally conceived because of its unique property to breakdown into a thinner weight during usage. The idea is that if the grease is too thick, then it stacks up on the outside of the bushings and never interacts with the actual bushing surface. So, the grease starts out a little bit thicker when it is initially applied and then breaks down a few levels from the friction and heat that is generated with the forks motion. Yes, the grease will settle into the bottom of the casting. But, this becomes a reservoir to supply the grease up and down the leg. A little bit of pressure is created that helps move the grease back up the legs after gravity has pulled it down. This is the major reason that we opened up the tolerance of wiper seals to allow for expended grease to exit from the casting. This is why people experience grease and oily substances underneath their boots. The grease is doing its job. As grease comes up the leg and out through the seals, dirt and water can not get in.

The one stumbling block to the system is the use of too much grease. If too much grease accumulates in the bottom of the casting, the travel of the fork will be reduced to the point of no travel at all. It is very important to remove the outer casting a couple of times a year depending on the amount that you ride and clean out all of the old grease and start the process over again.

We have also in the last 6 months changed the formula of the Prep M to add more performance to our forks. We have become the North American distributor for Motorex products. They are a complete line of lubricants and cleaners. They are based out of Switzerland and one of their many high profile customers is Mercedes Benz. We like this grease better than our original formula because it slicker and does not break down at all. It has a great property that allows it to attach to a surface and not wear off. It is now packaged in a similar, but larger quantity tube as the original Prep M. The visible difference between the two is the color. The original Prep M was green and the Motorex is clear. This also helps identify if your fork is leaking damping fluid, since it is green in color also.

If you have any questions about any of our products, please feel free to contact me directly.












(if anyone wants to contact him (ed breslau), give me a pm, and i'll hook you up with his contact info)

[Millstone]

just a little tidbit there: shermans don't use microlube. or prep m.

[willmtbike4food]

Originally posted by phlegm
just a little tidbit there: shermans don't use microlube. or prep m.

correct, this response was towards a question about my black elite 100/120.

however, manitou still uses similar principles, so, the same theories still hold true.

[UncleAl]

Originally posted by phlegm
just a little tidbit there: shermans don't use microlube. or prep m.

Shermans don't have Microlube, but they DO have Prep M in them when they are new or have been serviced by OGC (or a decent bike shop). Fact.

[IFO]

yeah it wont hurt your Sherman to reassemble it with some new Prep-M during reassembly...

that is a super-hi quality product... it certainly wont cause any harm...